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[bitcoinvest]

I agree JJG.  I can't get away from the feeling that something big is coming, and it does look more likely that the breakout will be upwards.  I'm fuelled up 

You speak in general something big is coming or just referring to something big is coming regarding the price of Bitcoin?

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[K~Ehleyr]

I agree JJG.  I can't get away from the feeling that something big is coming, and it does look more likely that the breakout will be upwards.  I'm fuelled up 

You speak in general something big is coming or just referring to something big is coming regarding the price of Bitcoin?

I mean regarding the price of Bitcoin    In general just getting out of bed is something big for me 

[conspirosphere.tk]

in germany no one thinks like that. it is a well shared general view here that those two ideologies were opposite to each other. and hey, we invented this fuck up, so we should know..  

Because ze Germans are now brainwashed and cuckified beyond belief.

[Fatman3001]

I think you are confused as to what is 'left wing' versus 'right wing'.   
IF you use the scale of government control over the individual, and the sacrifice of individual rights 'for the good of the whole (collective)" then fascism and socialism are indeed on the same side as totalitarianism, as opposed to free market libertarians wanting as little government control as possible, thus gravitating toward anarchism, or no laws or government control.

He is not confused. The right wing/left wing spectrum just takes some weird turns in certain parts of US society. People outside the US are used to a spectrum consisting of, from left to right: Communist/Anarchists (Dark Red), Social Democrats (Red), Social Liberals (Light Blue/Yellow/Green), Conservatives (Blue), Liberals (Dark Blue), Nationalist Conservatives (Light Brown), Fascists (Dark Brown)

Please note that it is normal to make a clear distinction between mainstream right wing parties and the far right. In Europe and elsewhere politicians on the mainstream right will often warn about the danger to society the far right poses in the same way the left wing parties do. It's a fairly uncontroversial way of viewing the political spectrum.

*With the advent of Anarcaps one could say that there is a right wing strand to Anarchism, but as it basically throws away the whole concept of government it really doesn't matter.

*One movement you will find in many countries which is not included here is The Green Party. That's because it's basically a single issue party and their overall policy will vary wildly from socialists to liberals.

There is a lot of revisionist history going on today.  Hitler and Stalin were in fact allies,,, until Hitler betrayed him and invaded poland and headed toward Stalingrad and Moscow.   In fact, the death camps were a Soviet design by some accounts.  Stalin and the USSR was left of Hitler Germany, but both were far left of any free market, individual rights respecting democracy.

A non-agression pact is not the same as an alliance. Furthermore, the Nazi concentration camp system was based on the camps Imperial Germany had used in Namibia.

[conspirosphere.tk]

I agree JJG.  I can't get away from the feeling that something big is coming, and it does look more likely that the breakout will be upwards.  I'm fuelled up 

maybe that the hacked bitfinex coins started moving?
https://www.reddit.com/user/MrChrisJ

[Fatman3001]

in germany no one thinks like that. it is a well shared general view here that those two ideologies were opposite to each other. and hey, we invented this fuck up, so we should know..  

Because ze Germans are now brainwashed and cuckified beyond belief.

So your source for political philosophy is Hitler?

http://historyandpolitics77.blogspot.no/2011/03/we-are-socialists-debunked.html

[JayJuanGee]

I agree JJG.  I can't get away from the feeling that something big is coming, and it does look more likely that the breakout will be upwards.  I'm fuelled up 

I think something very big is going to happen.  Unfunded liabilities like SS, Medicaid, Medicare, and the shaky ground that a couple hundred TRILLION of $ of bank derivatives balance on... On the radio just today someone was claiming the EURO was going to collapse within 18 months.  Also several Euro-zone countries are either thinking of exiting, or possibly experiencing a economic collapse.  In addition, dozens of other countries are on the economic edge of collapse.  This could all fall apart quickly, Gold could be confiscated again, in==at which point Bitcoin is not going to the moon, but Mars.

Very bad, but not for those who invest in the financial lifeboat for value. 

Sad, but...

We will laugh as the world burns!

I don't think that we need to experience Armageddon in order to benefit from our bitcoin investment.

And, even though you could be correct, there seem to be several ways in which legacy systems are more resilient than you make them out to be.  Further, we (bitcoin investors) probably need some of that resilience to hold up - because otherwise our bitcoins are not going to do us very good if we end up getting shot, stabbed or tortured by some enraged person.

[K~Ehleyr]

I agree JJG.  I can't get away from the feeling that something big is coming, and it does look more likely that the breakout will be upwards.  I'm fuelled up 

maybe that the hacked bitfinex coins started moving?
https://www.reddit.com/user/MrChrisJ

Wo-wo-woah!  What effect is that likely to have?

[conspirosphere.tk]

maybe that the hacked bitfinex coins started moving?
https://www.reddit.com/user/MrChrisJ

Wo-wo-woah!  What effect is that likely to have?

If they could dump them a crash, but I doubt very much that they can dump the most of them easily in a short while. Now even the use of mixers is considered a proof of laundering.

[European Central Bank]

Wo-wo-woah!  What effect is that likely to have?

they're gonna wish they never bothered. every exchange, mixer and business will be scanning these addresses on top of all the analysts. i don't see how they can get rid of one btc without slipping up somewhere.

and if they try mixing on the dark net or something then hopefully the coins'll get re stolen.

[Torque]

Wo-wo-woah!  What effect is that likely to have?

they're gonna wish they never bothered. every exchange, mixer and business will be scanning these addresses on top of all the analysts. i don't see how they can get rid of one btc without slipping up somewhere.

and if they try mixing on the dark net or something then hopefully the coins'll get re stolen.

No worries, it's just Bitfinex topping up their hot wallet again.   

#lulzbutnotlulz

[HI-TEC99]

I agree JJG.  I can't get away from the feeling that something big is coming, and it does look more likely that the breakout will be upwards.  I'm fuelled up  

maybe that the hacked bitfinex coins started moving?
https://www.reddit.com/user/MrChrisJ

Wo-wo-woah!  What effect is that likely to have?

The kraken has already frozen 0.4 Bitcoins sent to it. I expect Bitcoin.de, Coinbase, and CoinsBank will also freeze. That only leaves LocalBitcoins, BTC-e, Xzzx, and quadrigaCX. Even the obscure exchanges will probably freeze. They won't want to handle those coins.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitfinexs-hacked-bitcoins-move-5-recovery-bounty-offered/

Maybe the hacker shorted Bitcoin then moved the stolen coins to try to cause a crash.

[European Central Bank]

The kraken has already frozen 0.4 Bitcoins sent to it. I expect Bitcoin.de, Coinbase, and CoinsBank will also freeze. That only leaves LocalBitcoins, BTC-e, Xzzx, and quadrigaCX. Even the obscure exchanges will probably freeze. They won't want to handle those coins.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitfinexs-hacked-bitcoins-move-5-recovery-bounty-offered/

btc=e has a track record for freezing publicly identifiable stolen coins. everyone else'll do they same because if they don't they'll have hundreds of people on their ass screaming about it.

[600watt]

in germany no one thinks like that. it is a well shared general view here that those two ideologies were opposite to each other. and hey, we invented this fuck up, so we should know..  

Because ze Germans are now brainwashed and cuckified beyond belief.

no, hitler was anything, but no socialist. there were many followers of the NSDAP (workers) that got fooled by that myth. (that the NSDAP leaders tried to spin in order to gain more support by working class.)

fact is:

-hitler was in bed with big high finance. big industry leaders/owners financed his way to power. (keep in mind that he was a foreign, homeless, jobless postcard painter, without powerful friends of the establishment/high finance he´d never got anywhere.

-he surfed on the socialist ticket to some extend because he needed the votes from the workers to get   elected. but when he came to power he explained that he would keep private property in place. he was no socialist, he was a capitalist. there is no doubt about that.

please name at least one "socialist" measure, law, decree by the nazis or that touched the very core difference  between socialistic/communistic and capitalistic ideology and that is the question of private ownership. the nazis never touched it. they were no socialists at all.
this is not questioned even by conservatives over here. it is common ground. calling such a wide shared view as collective brainwash is the way to go, bro.

there are two opposing narratives about the socialism, communism, capitalism question when it comes to the NSDAP in the u.s. and in some other countries (including germany). which is interesting all by itself. which narrative is closer to the historic truth, no one knows. we should respect the opposing view and not call it stupid or brainwashed. more interesting is the question why there exists such a big difference in perception of the same historic events. we have been told different stories i guess...

[Holliday]

https://www.mises.org/library/why-nazism-was-socialism-and-why-socialism-totalitarian

[Ted E. Bare]

No more 800's I guess?

[conspirosphere.tk]

fact is:

-hitler was in bed with big high finance.

- while the bolshevik jews sent from New York like Lev Bronstein and that other famous guy with a fake name too sent to revolutionize  Russia on an armored train from Switzerland loaded with gold and money were not in bed with high finance, right?

please name at least one "socialist" measure, law, decree by the nazis or that touched the very core difference  between socialistic/communistic and capitalistic ideology and that is the question of private ownership. the nazis never touched it. they were no socialists at all.

What matters is the degree of power of the state on the individual and its penetration in the private sphere. Anything else is a show for the fools.

[DARKHOLDER]

No more 800's I guess?

If  somewhere are those stolen coins from bitfinex. ...then 700 $ is coming!

[DARKHOLDER]

I agree JJG.  I can't get away from the feeling that something big is coming, and it does look more likely that the breakout will be upwards.  I'm fuelled up 

maybe that the hacked bitfinex coins started moving?
https://www.reddit.com/user/MrChrisJ

Wo-wo-woah!  What effect is that likely to have?

Dump. .If you misunderstanding.

[JayJuanGee]

No more 800's I guess?

If  somewhere are those stolen coins from bitfinex. ...then 700 $ is coming!

Yes, you have been hoping for downwards BTC prices for quite a long time.  I am sorry for your loss, but the odds of down are not as great as you are making them out to be.  Maybe you should buy a little in order to be prepared for what is more likely to happen, and that is uppity.  Sorry to break the news to you.      NOT