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January 28, 2017, 05:06:23 AM

No more 800's I guess?

If  somewhere are those stolen coins from bitfinex. ...then 700 $ is coming! Smiley

haha, bitfinex is old news now and even of the coins move for real there is just no way such an old fake news can create enough panic for a $220 drop.

the most you can hope for is $850 and that is the worse case scenario!
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January 28, 2017, 05:08:42 AM

No more 800's I guess?

If  somewhere are those stolen coins from bitfinex. ...then 700 $ is coming! Smiley


Yes, you have been hoping for downwards BTC prices for quite a long time.  I am sorry for your loss, but the odds of down are not as great as you are making them out to be.  Maybe you should buy a little in order to be prepared for what is more likely to happen, and that is uppity.  Sorry to break the news to you.   Cry Cry Cry  NOT

I'm just kidding Cheesy. .I'm not loose anything. Happy with my amount..but it would be a great deal if btc go to 700$  Grin
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January 28, 2017, 06:47:52 AM

Because Marine Le Pen is a hard-right anti-EU nationalist and her election would probably result in "Frexit" and thereafter the rapid implosion of the European Union and the end of the Euro currency.

http://www.dailystormer.com/france-scandal-may-force-le-pens-top-rival-to-drop-out-of-presidential-race/

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January 28, 2017, 07:04:17 AM

Bitcoin is an example if Direct democracy

No.

In a democracy the will of the majority is being forced onto the minority.

With bitcoin, the minority can alway just split off and do their own thing.
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January 28, 2017, 07:52:38 AM

Bitcoin is an example if Direct democracy

No.

In a democracy the will of the majority is being forced onto the minority.

With bitcoin, the minority can alway just split off and do their own thing.

bitcoin is a forkocracy  Cheesy
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January 28, 2017, 07:59:17 AM

Kim dotcom the cuck
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January 28, 2017, 09:42:16 AM

Kim dotcom the cuck

He generates all the hype, and now he delayed the new megaupload... Maybe he is speculating and trying to buy more cheap bitcoin before the real announce.
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January 28, 2017, 09:51:40 AM

Kim dotcom the cuck

He generates all the hype, and now he delayed the new megaupload... Maybe he is speculating and trying to buy more cheap bitcoin before the real announce.
Nothing at all would surprise me with kim dotcom - the guy is a bit crazy - but great for marketing!
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January 28, 2017, 10:40:30 AM
Last edit: January 28, 2017, 10:59:59 AM by conspirosphere.tk

please name at least one "socialist" measure, law, decree by the nazis or that touched the very core difference  between socialistic/communistic and capitalistic ideology and that is the question of private ownership. the nazis never touched it. they were no socialists at all.

Hitler finds out how money is created (funny joke, up to a point)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G28rz9AT8VM

They actually put the state in charge of the production of money/credit (point 5 of the manifesto of the communist party by Marx, Engels).
http://voxeu.org/article/macroeconomics-germany-forgotten-lesson-hjalmar-schacht
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January 28, 2017, 11:01:50 AM

Some remarkable symmetry here. Might not be a C&H after all - if history were to repeat itself.

Isn't it time for Karpeles to fire up ol' "Willy" again...?

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January 28, 2017, 11:10:52 AM

Kim dotcom the cuck

He generates all the hype, and now he delayed the new megaupload... Maybe he is speculating and trying to buy more cheap bitcoin before the real announce.

No he was already hyping Bitcache and Bitcoin reaching $2000 some time ago.He was already invested in Bitcoin.
So he might have finished his speculation, ie. he cashed out and maybe was one of the guys who dumped his BTC at the peak.
And now this is lame announcement. Check his history! That dude always was and probably still is extremely shady!
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January 28, 2017, 01:09:52 PM

Kim dotcom the cuck

He generates all the hype, and now he delayed the new megaupload... Maybe he is speculating and trying to buy more cheap bitcoin before the real announce.

No he was already hyping Bitcache and Bitcoin reaching $2000 some time ago.He was already invested in Bitcoin.
So he might have finished his speculation, ie. he cashed out and maybe was one of the guys who dumped his BTC at the peak.
And now this is lame announcement. Check his history! That dude always was and probably still is extremely shady!

that may be the case and he may have made some investment in bitcoin and even took some profit but in the end the main purpose of all that he said so far was to hype his own project, megaupload 2.0
that is where his money lies, and bitcoin is his secondary concern.
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January 28, 2017, 01:25:18 PM

Kim dotcom the cuck

He generates all the hype, and now he delayed the new megaupload... Maybe he is speculating and trying to buy more cheap bitcoin before the real announce.

No he was already hyping Bitcache and Bitcoin reaching $2000 some time ago.He was already invested in Bitcoin.
So he might have finished his speculation, ie. he cashed out and maybe was one of the guys who dumped his BTC at the peak.
And now this is lame announcement. Check his history! That dude always was and probably still is extremely shady!

Show me one person who didn't dump at peak!  Smiley
Every person here trying to get yourself a benefit....like he...and don't care to others! !!
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January 28, 2017, 01:32:05 PM

Kim dotcom the cuck

He generates all the hype, and now he delayed the new megaupload... Maybe he is speculating and trying to buy more cheap bitcoin before the real announce.

No he was already hyping Bitcache and Bitcoin reaching $2000 some time ago.He was already invested in Bitcoin.
So he might have finished his speculation, ie. he cashed out and maybe was one of the guys who dumped his BTC at the peak.
And now this is lame announcement. Check his history! That dude always was and probably still is extremely shady!

Show me one person who didn't dump at peak!  Smiley
Every person here trying to get yourself a benefit....like he...and don't care to others! !!

if everyone dumped at the peak, then how the price reached sub $800 and people are still selling their coins now as I write Huh
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January 28, 2017, 02:10:38 PM

Does anyone know why the API described here https://bitcoincharts.com/about/markets-api/ doesn't work?

Examples listed on the page are:

Latest mtgoxUSD trades:
http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/trades.csv?symbol=mtgoxUSD

btcexYAD trades after 1303100000:
http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/trades.csv?symbol=btcexYAD&start=1303100000

But it just send back no data.

Does anyone have an idea or an alternative?
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January 28, 2017, 02:37:07 PM

Does anyone know why the API described here https://bitcoincharts.com/about/markets-api/ doesn't work?

Examples listed on the page are:

Latest mtgoxUSD trades:
http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/trades.csv?symbol=mtgoxUSD

btcexYAD trades after 1303100000:
http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/trades.csv?symbol=btcexYAD&start=1303100000

But it just send back no data.

Does anyone have an idea or an alternative?

mtgox is not alive anymore and not listed in Bitcoinwisdom, so that must be the reason

and btcex is closed since 2012 it seems, so the reason why there is no data about them

I don't know where get so precise data about ancient dead exchanges and why would you need them Huh
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January 28, 2017, 02:47:21 PM

Does anyone know why the API described here https://bitcoincharts.com/about/markets-api/ doesn't work?

Examples listed on the page are:

Latest mtgoxUSD trades:
http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/trades.csv?symbol=mtgoxUSD

btcexYAD trades after 1303100000:
http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/trades.csv?symbol=btcexYAD&start=1303100000

But it just send back no data.

Does anyone have an idea or an alternative?

mtgox is not alive anymore and not listed in Bitcoinwisdom, so that must be the reason

and btcex is closed since 2012 it seems, so the reason why there is no data about them

I don't know where get so precise data about ancient dead exchanges and why would you need them Huh

Well, http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/csv/mtgoxUSD.csv.gz is available (but due to the sheer size hard to query) so I thought it'd be a bug or something? You are right thought that http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/trades.csv?symbol=bitstampUSD is still working.

I'm interested on precise old mtGox data because mtGox dictated the market price in early (up until 2011 at least) years and I want to analyze the data. Starting 2012 I can switch to Bitstamp I guess but a shame to not have access to the data before that.

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Bitstamp starts in September of 2011 on bitcoincharts
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January 28, 2017, 03:19:44 PM

Does anyone know why the API described here https://bitcoincharts.com/about/markets-api/ doesn't work?

Examples listed on the page are:

Latest mtgoxUSD trades:
http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/trades.csv?symbol=mtgoxUSD

btcexYAD trades after 1303100000:
http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/trades.csv?symbol=btcexYAD&start=1303100000

But it just send back no data.

Does anyone have an idea or an alternative?

mtgox is not alive anymore and not listed in Bitcoinwisdom, so that must be the reason

and btcex is closed since 2012 it seems, so the reason why there is no data about them

I don't know where get so precise data about ancient dead exchanges and why would you need them Huh

Well, http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/csv/mtgoxUSD.csv.gz is available (but due to the sheer size hard to query) so I thought it'd be a bug or something? You are right thought that http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/trades.csv?symbol=bitstampUSD is still working.

I'm interested on precise old mtGox data because mtGox dictated the market price in early (up until 2011 at least) years and I want to analyze the data. Starting 2012 I can switch to Bitstamp I guess but a shame to not have access to the data before that.

edit:

Bitstamp starts in September of 2011 on bitcoincharts

The trades in MtGox have been frozen much before Bistamp took their market out, I guess the error might have something to do with it. Maybe if you discover the day when the MtGox stopped trades, you may get something for that day
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January 28, 2017, 03:49:02 PM

Does anyone know why the API described here https://bitcoincharts.com/about/markets-api/ doesn't work?

Examples listed on the page are:

Latest mtgoxUSD trades:
http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/trades.csv?symbol=mtgoxUSD

btcexYAD trades after 1303100000:
http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/trades.csv?symbol=btcexYAD&start=1303100000

But it just send back no data.

Does anyone have an idea or an alternative?

mtgox is not alive anymore and not listed in Bitcoinwisdom, so that must be the reason

and btcex is closed since 2012 it seems, so the reason why there is no data about them

I don't know where get so precise data about ancient dead exchanges and why would you need them Huh

Well, http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/csv/mtgoxUSD.csv.gz is available (but due to the sheer size hard to query) so I thought it'd be a bug or something? You are right thought that http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/trades.csv?symbol=bitstampUSD is still working.

I'm interested on precise old mtGox data because mtGox dictated the market price in early (up until 2011 at least) years and I want to analyze the data. Starting 2012 I can switch to Bitstamp I guess but a shame to not have access to the data before that.

edit:

Bitstamp starts in September of 2011 on bitcoincharts

This mega download is still working. It might be useful to you, although it's gigabytes of data when extracted.

enjoy:

https://mega.co.nz/#!cUdXVAyb!M9gyanCTwwxNRcHqEQ0L8gNyZ5wqXipRoaEG34n0WaE (120MB)

Each line is one reduced json full MtGox USD depth

Since December 19th, 2011 every ~1000secs (17-18mins)

Unfortunately the data is messily split across several archives.


Be carefull, the archives extract to many gigabytes of data as there is so much duplicated.



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January 28, 2017, 04:21:46 PM

I agree JJG.  I can't get away from the feeling that something big is coming, and it does look more likely that the breakout will be upwards.  I'm fuelled up  Grin

maybe that the hacked bitfinex coins started moving?
https://www.reddit.com/user/MrChrisJ

Wo-wo-woah!  What effect is that likely to have?

The kraken has already frozen 0.4 Bitcoins sent to it. I expect Bitcoin.de, Coinbase, and CoinsBank will also freeze. That only leaves LocalBitcoins, BTC-e, Xzzx, and quadrigaCX. Even the obscure exchanges will probably freeze. They won't want to handle those coins.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitfinexs-hacked-bitcoins-move-5-recovery-bounty-offered/

Maybe the hacker shorted Bitcoin then moved the stolen coins to try to cause a crash.

Why would they freeze it? Just let them convert to fiat...then ask for KYC information to withdraw the money.
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