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June 26, 2017, 09:11:45 AM

Were going lower
There is No bad news nothing But still its going down
The uptrend ended i think?
Azië is awake already But its not going Well for the crypto

This is the final shakeout before the parabolic rise post segwit implementation.

Everyone needs to watch this recent podcast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dcw-1JZPbvA&t=1

We are most definitely going to be seeing 5 figures soon.

So whats exactly happening at the moment? In the last week or two BTC and ETH its done nothing but drop and drop where and when will this end? (Fairly new to BTC and don't really understand economics to a decent level.) 1st August seems to me (As a newb) as the coming D-day where it'll sink or swim. Is there a round up of things happening anywhere? assuming there is more than segwit(1st August) and Australia(1st July) happening?

I read that segwit means it'll either split the chain which would be bad or it won't (good). If it doesn't split then it means they'll be more BTC to play around with right? if thats true then why wouldn't the price drop if they're more to go around? (Sorry if this doesn't make much sence just trying to get my head around it all)

hopefully you are investing in the long term and don't get caught up in the short term swings, except maybe to buy more on dips, and if you sell, mostly sell small amounts on the way up, rather than engaging in panic sells.... so buy on the way down  and sell on the way up.. and dont get worked up about it.

Yes, hopefully before August 1, we will have a partial resolution with the likely implementation of seg wit... later down the road, maybe September or October, we may be resuming division discussion regarding the hardfork 2mg upgrade quastion.
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June 26, 2017, 09:19:17 AM

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/YRZvdurN-The-target-of-current-bubble-lays-between-40k-and-110k/



Those of you who know MasterLuc, he has been accurate in the past. Here is his prediction. If this is true then no need to panic.


I don't believe a lot of predictions but for some reason I am drawn to his posts and opinions.

This graph has the beauty of the classical masterpieces. If masterluc were an architech this would be an gothic cathedral. I share his vision too.
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June 26, 2017, 09:26:50 AM

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/YRZvdurN-The-target-of-current-bubble-lays-between-40k-and-110k/



Those of you who know MasterLuc, he has been accurate in the past. Here is his prediction. If this is true then no need to panic.


I don't believe a lot of predictions but for some reason I am drawn to his posts and opinions.

This graph has the beauty of the classical masterpieces. If masterluc were an architech this would be an gothic cathedral. I share his vision too.


I feel it's a little high in a short timeframe but then again...who the hell am I? I'll just enjoy it and keep on with my life.
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June 26, 2017, 09:35:57 AM

Well if MasterLuc says it thats different !

(Even though many others been saying it too for ages. )
 
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Nice "the price will exponentially increase forever for no reason and everyone will pay $10,000 transaction fees" chart.  If every millionaire on earth hedged 1% of their money in bitcoin the price would be $7800 each with a fully liquid market (so more like $70,000/ea in distorted normal market metrics with non-liquid market cap).  This situation is not actually possible with anything less than probably 50+ TPS though (compared to 3 TPS now).  

I don't think creating a decentralized lightning network is even possible because you'd need to put all channel closings in a centralized que, or risk black swans blowing up the system (or permanent attack vector), so lightning network doesn't really satisfy this scaling requirement.  Payment channels are useful, but mostly for bank-like entities doing constant transfers back and forth, just not for smaller end user people (where the TPS increase is actually needed).  Payment channels would take some burden off the chain, but it's not a real substitute for the on-chain scaling.

So no, I don't see bitcoin going to the moon at 3 TPS or 3 TPS + payment channels.  The transaction fees have skyrocketed between $2-10 already, which puts up a big roadblock to further price appreciation, and I don't really see a valid scaling solution to fix it.  Also taking into account PoW is designed to centralize into a monopoly in the first place (and proof of stake is useless), so bitcoin really needs massive overhauls on almost every level before it can even be claimed to be decentralized or scale to be useful to the world at large.
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June 26, 2017, 09:44:24 AM

i was scared when i saw the btc price going down today. then i checked this:

https://www.coingecko.com/de

all crypto is going down. this turbulence will drag btc with it, but only due to some weak hands panicking.

so nothing to worry.

bitcoin will keep rising.
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Almost 6am in the states. What will those shifty Americans do next?
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June 26, 2017, 09:55:34 AM

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/YRZvdurN-The-target-of-current-bubble-lays-between-40k-and-110k/



Those of you who know MasterLuc, he has been accurate in the past. Here is his prediction. If this is true then no need to panic.


I don't believe a lot of predictions but for some reason I am drawn to his posts and opinions.

This graph has the beauty of the classical masterpieces. If masterluc were an architech this would be an gothic cathedral. I share his vision too.


I feel it's a little high in a short timeframe but then again...who the hell am I? I'll just enjoy it and keep on with my life.


I would consider three possible tops.

1) $4k to $6k

2) $9k to $12k

and

3) $15k to $20k



I cannot see going higher than $20k at the absolute highest in this particular run, but $4k to $6k would be more realistic, but if scaling does get unambiguously resolved then the more bullish scenarios become more likely.
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June 26, 2017, 10:02:25 AM

i was scared when i saw the btc price going down today. then i checked this:

https://www.coingecko.com/de

all crypto is going down. this turbulence will drag btc with it, but only due to some weak hands panicking.

so nothing to worry.

bitcoin will keep rising.

I'm liking all the volatility - its fun trying to keep hold of gains during a bearish market
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June 26, 2017, 10:03:19 AM

Were going lower
There is No bad news nothing But still its going down
The uptrend ended i think?
Azië is awake already But its not going Well for the crypto

This is the final shakeout before the parabolic rise post segwit implementation.

Everyone needs to watch this recent podcast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dcw-1JZPbvA&t=1

We are most definitely going to be seeing 5 figures soon.

So whats exactly happening at the moment? In the last week or two BTC and ETH its done nothing but drop and drop where and when will this end? (Fairly new to BTC and don't really understand economics to a decent level.) 1st August seems to me (As a newb) as the coming D-day where it'll sink or swim. Is there a round up of things happening anywhere? assuming there is more than segwit(1st August) and Australia(1st July) happening?

I read that segwit means it'll either split the chain which would be bad or it won't (good). If it doesn't split then it means they'll be more BTC to play around with right? if thats true then why wouldn't the price drop if they're more to go around? (Sorry if this doesn't make much sence just trying to get my head around it all)

hopefully you are investing in the long term and don't get caught up in the short term swings, except maybe to buy more on dips, and if you sell, mostly sell small amounts on the way up, rather than engaging in panic sells.... so buy on the way down  and sell on the way up.. and dont get worked up about it.

Yes, hopefully before August 1, we will have a partial resolution with the likely implementation of seg wit... later down the road, maybe September or October, we may be resuming division discussion regarding the hardfork 2mg upgrade quastion.

Yeah I'm only at 0.4BTC slowly but steadily buying more with the idea of hodling as they say. It's just difficult as a new guy as everytime I seem to put alittle bit more in the price drops the day after lol


Those of us who have been in for a while have war stories, and of course, past performance is not a predictor of future performance, but dollar cost averaging is a solidly known strategy in personal financing circles, so if you invest a small amount every week, even if it is only $20 per week, the amount will add up over time, and likely your average cost per purchase will actually be less than the price per BTC.

It actually took me two years to come out of the red, because I began buying in late 2013, and I bought through 2014 and 2015, by the end of 2015, my average cost per BTC was a bit more than $500, but the price of bitcoin was only about $250-ish.  ... Anyhow, if you are not over-leveraging and you have a few years, it will likely work in your favor, and of course you can tweak your strategy along the way, if you feel that you need to tweak it.  I have been constantly tweaking for nearly 4 years.. and still learning and it remains a very interesting space and an interesting investment to follow.
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June 26, 2017, 10:51:29 AM

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/YRZvdurN-The-target-of-current-bubble-lays-between-40k-and-110k/



Those of you who know MasterLuc, he has been accurate in the past. Here is his prediction. If this is true then no need to panic.


I don't believe a lot of predictions but for some reason I am drawn to his posts and opinions.

This graph has the beauty of the classical masterpieces. If masterluc were an architech this would be an gothic cathedral. I share his vision too.


I feel it's a little high in a short timeframe but then again...who the hell am I? I'll just enjoy it and keep on with my life.


I would consider three possible tops.

1) $4k to $6k

2) $9k to $12k

and

3) $15k to $20k



I cannot see going higher than $20k at the absolute highest in this particular run, but $4k to $6k would be more realistic, but if scaling does get unambiguously resolved then the more bullish scenarios become more likely.


I believe 3 tops are pretty reasonable predictions JJG.
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June 26, 2017, 10:59:36 AM

i was scared when i saw the btc price going down today. then i checked this:

https://www.coingecko.com/de

all crypto is going down. this turbulence will drag btc with it, but only due to some weak hands panicking.

so nothing to worry.

bitcoin will keep rising.

Well whenever bitcoin's value decreases, the alts get a decrease too, and that's what happening right now.

Currently, according to Poloniex:

Bitcoin now stands at $2400 while ETH at $250. Pretty nice decreases.
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sacrificial lamb is needed to feed the wolves ~ or bitcoin will freefall ===> bittrex why you do us dirty? :\  meh
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i was scared when i saw the btc price going down today. then i checked this:

https://www.coingecko.com/de

all crypto is going down. this turbulence will drag btc with it, but only due to some weak hands panicking.

so nothing to worry.

bitcoin will keep rising.

Well whenever bitcoin's value decreases, the alts get a decrease too, and that's what happening right now.

Currently, according to Poloniex:

Bitcoin now stands at $2400 while ETH at $250. Pretty nice decreases.
Poloniex use USDT, it isnt USD, the price there is always lower
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June 26, 2017, 12:56:20 PM

i was scared when i saw the btc price going down today. then i checked this:

https://www.coingecko.com/de

all crypto is going down. this turbulence will drag btc with it, but only due to some weak hands panicking.

so nothing to worry.

bitcoin will keep rising.

Well whenever bitcoin's value decreases, the alts get a decrease too, and that's what happening right now.

As some alts trade back into btc, the alts will fall faster and bitcoin will have a more soft descent. Bitcoin's dominance % should rise some.

But whale traders will mostly trade btc back to fiat ( because they're smucks, lol). Look at the total crypto market cap. The whole sector is down. About $15B has been wiped off the top already.
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sacrificial lamb is needed to feed the wolves ~ or bitcoin will freefall ===> bittrex why you do us dirty? :\  meh


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Oh i can't wait for this  Grin oh noes BTC crashed to $2k = BTC is dead  Grin
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The FUD is strong with this one.
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