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January 09, 2018, 12:27:29 AM

ffs, when are these exchanges going to open up for new accounts again?



Is Changelly any good?
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January 09, 2018, 12:36:34 AM

I predict we will see one more alt-wave, and I don't mean wave of big alts, but of many smaller alts.

People don't like how many of the top coins just plummeted and are so subject to Asian market manipulation (like Btrash and RIPple).

I personally sold all my Bitcoin before this happened (16-17k), and invested in low-ranked altcoins. Of course, they didn't fare that well during the across-the-board correction, but nothing really did.

Will buy Bitcoin again later maybe. Right now it clearly has shown that it is not going bullish anytime soon.. it had to maintain support above 16k, and there were so many sellers. What a joke of a "recovery". Anyways, it now will probably trade sideways and try to recover again for the next week at least.
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January 09, 2018, 12:39:05 AM

I think I might sell some stuff to buy cardano in the hope that it passes bcash

You might regret not buying bitcoin instead if the secret news about 1/18 pumps the price.
we must take them one by one...
bcash has one foot on a banana and the other on the void, just needs a push I think

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January 09, 2018, 12:40:37 AM

Is Changelly any good?

Not really.
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January 09, 2018, 12:41:29 AM

ffs, when are these exchanges going to open up for new accounts again?



Bitfinex says it will open up for new accounts by January 15th at the latest.
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January 09, 2018, 12:41:51 AM

Is Changelly any good?

Not really.

What is the problem with it?

I have been waiting weeks now for Bittrex to open up new accounts.
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January 09, 2018, 12:45:04 AM

Is Changelly any good?

If you want your exchange to take 3 days and have no support contact at all and are left worrying what is happening with your money then it's great.

https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=changelly&src=typd
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January 09, 2018, 12:45:28 AM

Is Changelly any good?

Not really.

What is the problem with it?

I have been waiting weeks now for Bittrex to open up new accounts.

Horrific card fees and bonkers exchange rates on certain coins. And plenty of coins seem to go missing but I'm sure half the time it's down to user stupidity.
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January 09, 2018, 12:50:00 AM

Is Changelly any good?

If you want your exchange to take 3 days and have no support contact at all and are left worrying what is happening with your money then it's great.

https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=changelly&src=typd

Try reading the latest posts from the Changelly announcement thread to get an overview of its problems.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1435275.0
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January 09, 2018, 12:50:50 AM

Of all trades to make, why would I want to SHORT bitcoin? I have givven a dozen speeches on how stupid and risky shorting it is because you have to take a loan and have limited gain and infinite losses. Even IF my target of $8,000 is reached, that would only be a 40% gain for me and it would take days or weeks. There are dozens of other things going on right now where I can make 100% or 200% gain in hours. I am in the US and do not even know how to short bitcoin. The last time I shorted bitcoin was on Bitfinex in the dec 2013 crash.
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Try reading the latest posts from the Changelly announcement thread to get an overview of its problems.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1435275.0

oh wow

well, so much for that
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January 09, 2018, 01:16:19 AM

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I didnt know my messages were trying very hard to be subliminal.

Ah  ha... .

Perhaps your subliminal messaging is even beyond your own consciousness, which I take any denial from you with a decently sized grain of salt.


So are we in the S curve and reaching mass adoption right now?  Did the underlying adoption increase 10,000% in the past 2 years and is about to increase another 1000%?

Stop trying to play dumb and to nit pick particulars into acting as if I have any kind of specific knowledge or that I am able to answer those kinds of questions.

s-curve adoption does not mean that UP is automatic, and none of us know exactly where the fuck we are at on the curve, even though you constantly seem to be acting as if we are at the top of such curve.

Consider this whole matter in a context that remains less than 1% world adoption, while seeming ongoing pressures to "get in" while naysayers and attacks and traditional institutions are trying to keep the baby down, to keep the toothpaste in the tube, and no fucking way do we know exactly where we are at or when it is going to stop, so yeah, it could go up, but it also could have 90% corrections - but any reasonable analysis needs to account for both directions and also needs to account for our seeming continued immaturity - that you like to assume away, as if you think bitcoin is mature and bitcoin needs to follow some kind of chart, as if it were mature and as if the upside has to stop, merely because we already had a lot of upside... 

Seems mostly like you and your ongoing pie in the sky wishing for down, rather than really attempting to account for real and actual bitcoin dynamics.



Maybe this move right now is just going to be a straight shot to ATH by tomorrow?


Get real, girlfriend.

You know that is not what is being said, so stop trying to exaggerate and place words in my mouth or in the mouths of others in this thread by painting everyone in this thread to be an irrational and overly exuberant bull.

Under 10,000 at some point is a certaintly.

Let's try to narrow this down a bit, Tera dee beara...... (at least in the next 5 years or something like that). 

Accordingly, each of us should recognize that there is nothing certain in bitcoin, even if bitcoin were to achieve a 90% correction after approaching a $100k... (which would technically achieve your target, but at what cost, and who fucking cares if you are correct under those circumstances, right?). 

 So, please, let's get over the supposed inevitability of your below $10k absolutism... because we might all be dead by the time it happens... So, would such a correctness from you matter at that point?   
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January 09, 2018, 01:23:38 AM

It is inevitableableableablable.  I was thinking of something along the lines of within the next month.
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January 09, 2018, 01:29:03 AM

Damn, its gone back below $15000 again" Angry
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January 09, 2018, 01:33:34 AM

...and back up.
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January 09, 2018, 01:40:38 AM

I predict we will see one more alt-wave, and I don't mean wave of big alts, but of many smaller alts.

People don't like how many of the top coins just plummeted and are so subject to Asian market manipulation (like Btrash and RIPple).

I personally sold all my Bitcoin before this happened (16-17k), and invested in low-ranked altcoins. Of course, they didn't fare that well during the across-the-board correction, but nothing really did.

Will buy Bitcoin again later maybe. Right now it clearly has shown that it is not going bullish anytime soon.. it had to maintain support above 16k, and there were so many sellers. What a joke of a "recovery". Anyways, it now will probably trade sideways and try to recover again for the next week at least.



You sure are a Party Poop in your assertion that "sell pressure is too great" 
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January 09, 2018, 01:47:55 AM

Of all trades to make, why would I want to SHORT bitcoin? I have givven a dozen speeches on how stupid and risky shorting it is because you have to take a loan and have limited gain and infinite losses.

You know that frequently we use the same term "short" regarding those who have sold too early.

Yeah, even though technically you are correct, in actual practice, we tend to be a bit more loose with the term short (to also include folks who merely sell too early, which seems to be what you tend to do (and admit to such inclinations).


Even IF my target of $8,000 is reached, that would only be a 40% gain for me and it would take days or weeks. There are dozens of other things going on right now where I can make 100% or 200% gain in hours. I am in the US and do not even know how to short bitcoin. The last time I shorted bitcoin was on Bitfinex in the dec 2013 crash.

Now you are getting a bit much into the weeds - unnecessarily, while doing a bit of self-promotional bragging (we cannot verify anyhow), too.   Roll Eyes
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January 09, 2018, 01:48:50 AM

What, it's sitting at 15100, just sitting there.

Bitcoin getting booooooooring. When will LN get here?

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January 09, 2018, 02:19:12 AM

We are not supposed to talk about the "thing" remember?

Why not?

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January 09, 2018, 02:26:59 AM

ffs, when are these exchanges going to open up for new accounts again?



Is Changelly any good?

Be careful there...  There may be reason to believe it is connected to a long list of semi scammy projects, exchanges etc...  more shady stories than I am personally comfortable with.  I would use as a last resort and with small volume.
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