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[fabiorem]

Dan will die alone at altitude 

Better to die alone and rich, than to die poor and surrounded by imbeciles.

[Last of the V8s]

https://www.moonstuff.co/



This is new, with no feedback yet. Also pricey. dyor

I guess there's no other way than ordering the BTC rollercoaster for me     

aargh oh well . Let us know if it comes

[Rosewater Foundation]

a spazz-church of macho-irony

Ha. That was rich. I like this mudbone kid. He's got more gumption than I do. That's for sure.

Politics made you soft. I detest politics. Also, you are old now. Your arms and legs are thin. R0ach ought to have put you out to pasture years ago. I blame him for not being harder on you.

idk about all that.

meanwhile, these new funds offer indirect exposure to blockchain and bitcoin.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/03/new-funds-offer-indirect-exposure-to-blockchain-and-bitcoin-but-buyer.html
so, if you insist on sticking yer stalks on that thumb drive
but don't
just don't

[pönde]

It has been said, that bitcoins that have and will go through segwit will be blacklisted. I think there is no need worry about. Three reasons.

First. Bitcoin blockchain is anyway transparent, so every coin can be blacklisted for any invented reason, have they gone through segwit or not.

Second. Segwit will be used anyway. So finally most, or every coin will go through them. So every coin will be blacklisted. Blacklisting kind of a looses it significance.

Third. Atomic swaps. Traders will use atomic swaps to trade for each other. Back and forth. They are not worried about are they able to use the coins on some shop where they could be rejected by a blacklist. Traders will use them just for trading. So traders do not care if coins are blacklisted.


Question about tradingview.com.

When I change the time scale like 1 day to 3 month or a year, the candle width also changes. And vice versa. Why? Like when I select three months view, a got 1 hour candles, then when I select 4 hour candles a got a one year view. Why?

[tempus]

Speed Trader Jumps Into Crypto Bets Opposed by Watchdog
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-05/dutch-speed-trader-jumps-into-crypto-bets-spurned-by-regulator

[Last of the V8s]

Question about tradingview.com.

When I change the time scale like 1 day to 3 month or a year, the candle width also changes. And vice versa. Why? Like when I select three months view, a got 1 hour candles, then when I select 4 hour candles a got a one year view. Why?

Not sure I get your question.
It tries to make a decent-looking chart when you change timescale. suggest just use the candle selctor and then you can zoom in or out with the mouse wheel... drag the thing about a bit

[kalehon]

Heading to a Bitcoin meet up

[Wekkel]

This is new, with no feedback yet. Also pricey. dyor

I want these. Makes great conversation with people asking what the figures are all about.

[mike4001]

Down again :-/

[pönde]

Question about tradingview.com.

When I change the time scale like 1 day to 3 month or a year, the candle width also changes. And vice versa. Why? Like when I select three months view, a got 1 hour candles, then when I select 4 hour candles a got a one year view. Why?

Not sure I get your question.
It tries to make a decent-looking chart when you change timescale. suggest just use the candle selctor and then you can zoom in or out with the mouse wheel... drag the thing about a bit

You got it right.

The mouse wheel works. Thank you.

[JayJuanGee]

I agree that it is interesting how each of us has differing factors, and even differing entrance points that change how we weigh the factors.  I recognize that even with miners there is a certain speculative aspect, and sometimes the variations in speculation can provide some explanation to the seemingly exponentially increasing hash rate that does not necessarily correlate with BTC price.  So, some miners, even smaller players, have greater abilities to cushion themselves from volatility or to speculate that even if there are periods of mining at low profits or even a loss, that future prices could more than make up for the low profits/loss periods.  Also, some experiential aspect of mining can cause someone to want to continue to mine and to contribute, learn and interact with the crypto space, even though strictly speaking there could be more profits (and mobility/liquidity) from merely buying the various coins instead of mining them.  Further, hahahaha.. the lottery aspect of mining a variety of coins in which some of them could upwardly explode and to off-set the costs/losses of mining some of the other coins. 

i like tinkering with electronic stuff, been building PCs since the 90s or so. and mining (as a hobby), while not for everyone, does have some advantages, like mine a new coins that are not on the main (read: more or less trustworthy) exchanges yet. since my rig is paid off i can play around with the different alts at bit. although mostly i mine to the most profitable (for example mainly eth at the moment) and exchange all of what i mine for btc, with some coins that i think may go up more relative to btc in the near(ish) future i will sell enough to pay electric and keep the rest for speculation. if it goes up, exchange to btc, if not oh well it was house money anyway.

its fun being in crypto. totally new concepts that could be game changers, cool toys, drama that is occasionally interesting, learning new things, maybe make some money. what could go wrong heh. and we get to play in this space.

Exactamente!!!!!   I can relate. 

My reasons for not getting into mining is largely because I am attempting to transition into a more mobile existence for myself.  I have had such a transition to mobile vision since about 2013 and partly getting into bitcoin based on such motivations.  Whether I am successful to increase my mobility, or not (because there seems to be some properties (and familial) connections that I am  disinclined to shake), it remains good for me to continue with such a "more mobile" vision of myself and my activities.  If I did not have such a "more mobile" vision/goal set, I would have likely attempted such a mining practice too - because I am a little bit of a gadget person, and I do like some of the aspects of being able to learn more by engaging and interacting... similar to my historically buying little electronic gadgets that had helped me to exercise more than if I had not purchased such gadgets.

[JayJuanGee]

That one does not look good.

Maybe I should not have logged in today to see that?   

[realr0ach]

This is the most downvoted comment I've ever seen on Zerohedge that was obviously true.  Someone posted this link and said, "The feminists and betas have teamed up against the alphas and they're winning":

http://puerarchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/TheFuturist_TheMisandryBubble.pdf

In the US, that would be an army of 293 million women and beta males vs 33 million males fit to pass natural selection.  In order to win this fight, each person has to be able to bench press roughly 10 fat women, cuckolds, or Jews (same difference) single handedly.

[mymenace]

Is he saying use a legacy address just in case?

believe he is directly mentioning segwit
bitcoin has always been attacked, in every instance the opposition always with a centralized or distributed solution
fake attacks as they actually want to destroy the evidence in the blockchain
and yes i believe put your coins in a legacy address

He is not mentioning Segwit, your imagination thinks like that.
According to your logic all hardware and exchange users will lose their coins when LN goes down.
Stop spreading FUD, take a crypto holiday.

I just said I believe, you do not have to

..."According to your logic all hardware and exchange users will lose their coins when LN goes down."...
Sounds about right thanks for the tip


No fud here, just my belief is all

You can prove it wrong if you want or just write the type of replies above

According to your logic best to shout people down with opposing ideas (sounds lefty)

[Rosewater Foundation]

This is the most downvoted comment I've ever seen on Zerohedge that was obviously true.  Someone posted this link and said, "The feminists and betas have teamed up against the alphas and they're winning":

http://puerarchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/TheFuturist_TheMisandryBubble.pdf

In the US, that would be an army of 293 million women and beta males vs 33 million males fit to pass natural selection.  In order to win this fight, each person has to be able to bench press roughly 10 fat women, cuckolds, or Jews (same difference) single handedly.

Yeah, but do you think a rocket picture could help?

[Rosewater Foundation]

just warming up

[JayJuanGee]

That was no moon.

There was an attempt.

I understand. I tried once. I failed, too.

been to moon 2x since 2013...failed to establish a 'settlement' both times (dang!)

O.k.  I am going to read this as an assertion that trip 1 to the moon was in late 2013 at $1,163 - ish.. and then the second trip to the moon was in December 2017 at $19,666.

Even though we had about a four year correction from 2014 to about January 2017, there really has not been much if any retreat to 3 digit BTC since March 2017.. and therefore, it seems like 3 digits are done... so there has been an establishing (or settlement) of moon and a bouncing into further reaches.. at least the $19,666 was nearly 17x of $1,163, and even if we take today's price, of about $6,500, we are still a bit above 5.5x of $1,163.  How can our current arena NOT be progress?  Let's get rid of the negativism, searing.      hahahahhaha         

If you really think about context, $6,500 with decent ongoing and upwards price pressures feels pretty good, no?  Yeah, we could get additional price correction below $5k or below $4k or even $3k, but it would take a whole hell-of-a lot of FUD or fundamental breakage for BTC prices to drop below $1,163, no?  Seems like less than a 1% chance for such downward extreme's, no?  Yeah, some of the frothiness of the pump and dump alt coins and ICOs could fuel such an extreme BTC price drop, but even if such a pessimistic scenario of the Alts and ICOs were to take place, there would be considerable difficulties (seemingly bordering on impossible) to bring BTC below $1,163, no?  I know, never say never in bitcoinlandia, yet part of my point is that BTC is still in a good place, no?

[Rosewater Foundation]

here's a doozy artists rendering

[Rosewater Foundation]

this one seems to be pointing sideways. but principle is the same

[vroom]

this one seems to be pointing sideways. but principle is the same

it's pointing sideways but it could simultaneous point to the moon!