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Caught "The Rise of Skywalker" last night with Rick. It was like watching two and a half hours of shit being smeared all over my eyes.

I get more excited watching The Mandalorian E7 tonight at home than The Rise of Skywalker in the cinema.

Truth. The story 'arc' with some tightening up on some stuff to make it a 2-hour movie would, IMHO, have done a lot better than the last 2 star wars movies

just saying. Not sure it was worth the $69 a year price I paid, I can find NOTHING of any real note on the site to watch besides the Mandrian...thus a loss of $$$.

Have the exact same problem with CBS Access and Star TreK: Discovery as well. Sh*t. Well at least with Picard that will be 2 shows I can watch on the CBS Access

site. It is like commercial T.V. is not even trying anymore to make quality products, only if you subscribe can you see anything good now it seems.

Mandalorian season 1 contains 8 episodes to watch, last one will be aired 27 Dec. Season 2 next year, al lot of countries still waiting for Disney+.

It was not needed to sub for 12 months if you only want to follow The Mandalorian, cancel Disney+ sub after episode 8 and resub when season 2 starts. I could've taken the advantage trying Disney+ for 1 week and watch season 1 in one go on a sunday evening for just 1 cent. -lol-

There are so many streaming services these days, each one which there own originals just like the newest Star Trek: Picard on CBS. (release date is January 23) Subscribe when the season starts and unsub when it ends, so you can replace service A to B. This is what i always do.

On the side note, The Mandalorian is already so succesfull that Disney considering the possibility of a Mandalorian movie. It would be something if it gets more populair than the original Star Wars movies. Smiley



Or you could do what I do, watch for free. Most movies and series can be found here: https://nyafilmer.to/the-witcher/

And what nyafilmer.to doesn't have this one will: https://gostream.site/fantastic-beasts-and-where-to-find-them/
And what you can't find at those to places can hopefully be found here: https://ww.123movies.al/movie/predator-world-2017/

Yes, there will be annoying stuff popping up before you can start the movie, but I can live with one second or so extra clicking if it's free.

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December 23, 2019, 01:33:04 AM

Well under 8k
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Nice to have a bit of a Santa rally. Hopefully we get a bit more Christmas cheer and a Happy New Year.

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December 23, 2019, 01:35:17 AM

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What does it mean?
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December 23, 2019, 01:36:37 AM

Caught "The Rise of Skywalker" last night with Rick. It was like watching two and a half hours of shit being smeared all over my eyes.

I get more excited watching The Mandalorian E7 tonight at home than The Rise of Skywalker in the cinema.

Truth. The story 'arc' with some tightening up on some stuff to make it a 2-hour movie would, IMHO, have done a lot better than the last 2 star wars movies

just saying. Not sure it was worth the $69 a year price I paid, I can find NOTHING of any real note on the site to watch besides the Mandrian...thus a loss of $$$.

Have the exact same problem with CBS Access and Star TreK: Discovery as well. Sh*t. Well at least with Picard that will be 2 shows I can watch on the CBS Access

site. It is like commercial T.V. is not even trying anymore to make quality products, only if you subscribe can you see anything good now it seems.

Mandalorian season 1 contains 8 episodes to watch, last one will be aired 27 Dec. Season 2 next year, al lot of countries still waiting for Disney+.

It was not needed to sub for 12 months if you only want to follow The Mandalorian, cancel Disney+ sub after episode 8 and resub when season 2 starts. I could've taken the advantage trying Disney+ for 1 week and watch season 1 in one go on a sunday evening for just 1 cent. -lol-

There are so many streaming services these days, each one which there own originals just like the newest Star Trek: Picard on CBS. (release date is January 23) Subscribe when the season starts and unsub when it ends, so you can replace service A to B. This is what i always do.

On the side note, The Mandalorian is already so succesfull that Disney considering the possibility of a Mandalorian movie. It would be something if it gets more populair than the original Star Wars movies. Smiley



Or you could do what I do, watch for free. Most movies and series can be found here: https://nyafilmer.to/the-witcher/

And what nyafilmer.to doesn't have this one will: https://gostream.site/fantastic-beasts-and-where-to-find-them/
And what you can't find at those to places can hopefully be found here: https://ww.123movies.al/movie/predator-world-2017/

Yes, there will be annoying stuff popping up before you can start the movie, but I can live with one second or so extra clicking if it's free.

You're welcome.
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Never myself been a fan of all these streaming services; pirated or legitimate. Firstly I like having all my content local and on hand, plus I don't like how it can be on a service one day and gone the next (with rights issues and such)
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Never myself been a fan of all these streaming services; pirated or legitimate. Firstly I like having all my content local and on hand, plus I don't like how it can be on a service one day and gone the next (with rights issues and such)
Such is why P2P content will always be superior.  Wink LONG BTC
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A risk model presented ..

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New $BTC video on validating the risk model. I feed in dummy #price data for the next 4 years and watch how the risk model reacts. Feel free to send me a vector of projected price data and I'll feed it into the model too!
#BTC #Bitcoin #Cryptocurrency
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Source: https://twitter.com/intocryptoverse/status/1208412646430527493

Surely, I consider the perspective of the commentator, Benjamin Cowen (intocryptoverse) to be planning to play "in" and "out" with a lot higher percentages of capital and planning to be able to predict the market with his risk model and assignment of risk values.  

Such intense "in" and "out" is a lot more intense than my preferred incrementalist approach in which I do not plan to sell large portions of my BTC.  I still appreciate other perspectives, even if I do not really plan to change my approach or to be convinced that changing my approach would be "better" for me.  

Notice that his inputted data for the future (between about now and mid-2024), which he deems to be "reasonable" has a lot of flat and even down before up, and seems to presume that the four year fractal might take more than four years to play out based on lowering price slopes into the future... so maybe that could be true, and maybe not.  We could have a lower slope for this four year fractal without having to extent the fractal out two additional years... but who knowns?  Who knows?

His plot also seems to suggest that supra $20k is not likely to happen inn either 2020 or even in 2021, which would put LFC in jeopardy in the Bossian bet.  Fuck that.... I am thinking that we have pretty decent odds of getting above $20k before 2022, so maybe there is some relation to this guy, and Bossian.. Not that Bossian has presented himself in any kind of way that is close to as credible than someone who is trying to be reasonable in this space... and (not that it is wise to bet with a troll, in which you are likely only to have to pay if you lose and you will never get paid by such disingenuous troll, if such disingenuous troll were to lose).  You can tell that I am not too excited about Bossian's so far demonstrations of credibility (largely lack thereof).
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They also like clothes or new shoes perhaps. Is she a boots kind of woman? Nice, fluffy winter boots.

Now I have a question for you:

In Belgium, do you guys have Belgian Waffles, or do you just call them "waffles"?

We have Brusselse wafels, Luikse wafels and in Holland they have stroopwafels

Actually more interesting.... why call it French fries when it’s a Belgian thing???

Huh Huh

Americans confuse European things often. e.g. Brussel sprouts originate in the Mediterranean not Brussels. Americans thinking that Deutsch (German) is the same as Dutch because the words are similar (in fact the origin of the word Dutch comes from some confused people calling it Deutsch). Etcetera.
Deutch-Dutch..... Die Gesundheit - de gezondheid......Die Regel- de regel......die Geduld-het geduld......Der Speigel-de spiegel.......Schaden=Schaden.... . .warum-waarom........reisen-reizen.....vor-voor...der Artz-de arts..........................
 .die Geduld-het geduld...der Lohn-het loon....dankbar-daankbar...der Tag-de dag...... .    Geheim, morgen, weg, hallo the same and many more. Deutch is dutch
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🤔 maybe next stop on the train 7500-7700...?

Yes.

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They also like clothes or new shoes perhaps. Is she a boots kind of woman? Nice, fluffy winter boots.

Now I have a question for you:

In Belgium, do you guys have Belgian Waffles, or do you just call them "waffles"?

We have Brusselse wafels, Luikse wafels and in Holland they have stroopwafels

Actually more interesting.... why call it French fries when it’s a Belgian thing???

Huh Huh

Americans confuse European things often. e.g. Brussel sprouts originate in the Mediterranean not Brussels. Americans thinking that Deutsch (German) is the same as Dutch because the words are similar (in fact the origin of the word Dutch comes from some confused people calling it Deutsch). Etcetera.
Deutch-Dutch..... Die Gesundheit - de gezondheid......Die Regel- de regel......die Geduld-het geduld......Der Speigel-de spiegel.......Schaden=Schaden.... . .warum-waarom........reisen-reizen.....vor-voor...der Artz-de arts..........................
 .die Geduld-het geduld...der Lohn-het loon....dankbar-daankbar...der Tag-de dag...... .    Geheim, morgen, weg, hallo the same and many more. Deutch is dutch

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December 23, 2019, 02:32:20 AM

**spoiler alert**

Now thinking about the movie...

It is a story of a one big pump&dump. From nothing to everything and back to nothing.

Only this time, the guy didn't stop at zero. You know what they say, you can't go below zero but that's not true. (Prison time = negative value on charts)

Good news is he can make a come back from negative to everything again. Much faster now. Experience. That's what he bought for $110m.

Part of the reason that I remain such an advocate for incrementalism is because to me it seems a whole fucking lot easier to make a lot of money when you have a lot of money rather than attempting to recover from losses and to get back to where you were.

Yeah, they can glorify the fuck out of gambling because of course there are going to be BIG ASS thrills when gambles pay off, but for the vast majority of time (in reality) BIG ASS gambles do not pay off, and it is better to become rich first and to use your money to make you MOAR rich rather than returning to a poor ass fuck and having to struggle to become rich again  (which might not even happen).
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Well, we are at 7514.98 on bitstamp, therefore the 7500 faction won (vs larger 6500 faction) although 6500'ers came very close (on bitstamp).
well, now, if I look at it under the microscope, maybe there was a wick below 6500. Certainly not on coinmarketcap or coinbase, but, whatever.

Of course, we use Bitstamp in these here parts, an there was a wick down to $6,425 on 12/18.  The $6,500-ers won this poll, so the poll remains old news..... and even though the $6,500s won the battle, likey the $7,500s are going to win the war, and fuck the shorters, the no coiners, the fence sitters and the bargain boyz (and lambie too)... hahahahahahaha...

Hopefully they all got fucked.   Wink

$8000 in one hour

Might be too hopeful, but it would be nice.


I think i found something interesting. Bitcoin 15th dec is very important. At least it was very important in 2017 and 2018! What happened on that day? On 15th dec 2017 bitcoin made ATH almost 20k. On the 15th dec 2018 it bottomed at 3k. Could 15th dec 2019 have reversal again?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5208757.msg53318853#msg53318853

I dunno, we were at the peak of an epic bullish rise in December 2017. We were at the absolute, depressing low of the last bear market in December 2018.

It seems December 2019 is like neither of the above, just an accumulation phase. The halving is in May 2020, the current situation is probably more similar to December 2015 or December 2016 (i.e. nothing-ness).
Allright then! ACcording to Gann theory the 22th December is very important. Maybe some whales who are rich AF do know this or they just buy or trade before this 22th dec date. 2017 and 2018 december were not the only bottoms. It's 2013 the bottom (flash crash) and in 2016 it was before the pump.
My hopium right now. Could this be it? The Gann theory. 22th December is important and on the 23rd we have 180 days from the high and 180 is very important.

Fuck the Gann theory.  All we need is numerology gaining too much ground in these here parts, and pretty soon we will be looking at the stars to figure out what to do next.

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Well under 8k
(where we would feel much safer)
come, Bitcoin Santa!


Yes. I agree. I would probably feel safe as the 1st step at 8k BTC. My next (fantasy) price would be $11,111.12 USD for obvious reasons, that should be 'easy' to figure out!

So is it safe? The current price that is of ..hell..just looked $7,600 USD! (Sheesh!)



Anything above that we could play 70% re-bounce back and forth in price way into the future as long as my 'mental' pacifier of $11,111.12 USD was the bottom.

(I am so 'blindingly' obvious in my 'self-interest') Smiley

Meanwhile, trying to get 'excited' about 'attic mining' stuff out of my attic for sale on eBay for BTC dust as a way to kill two birds with one stone. (1) motivation

for ugly boring eBay selling of crap, I'd likely die with first in the attic for BTC Dust. (2) Making the then empty attic into a Rec Room.

As goals go, it does not compare to data hall mining ASIC's from back in the day, but it is what it is. Hopefully, this accumulation is worth the boredom of eBay hell! Sad

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The markets of S & p500, Gold and Bitcoin ..


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Gold, the classic safe haven asset meanwhile was up only 15% trading at $1,474 per ounce, near its April 2013 level.



The correlation between gold and Bitcoin is at level 0.1.



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Well, we are at 7514.98 on bitstamp, therefore the 7500 faction won (vs larger 6500 faction) although 6500'ers came very close (on bitstamp).
well, now, if I look at it under the microscope, maybe there was a wick below 6500. Certainly not on coinmarketcap or coinbase, but, whatever.

Of course, we use Bitstamp in these here parts, an there was a wick down to $6,425 on 12/18.  The $6,500-ers won this poll, so the poll remains old news..... and even though the $6,500s won the battle, likey the $7,500s are going to win the war, and fuck the shorters, the no coiners, the fence sitters and the bargain boyz (and lambie too)... hahahahahahaha...

Hopefully they all got fucked.   Wink

$8000 in one hour

Might be too hopeful, but it would be nice.


I think i found something interesting. Bitcoin 15th dec is very important. At least it was very important in 2017 and 2018! What happened on that day? On 15th dec 2017 bitcoin made ATH almost 20k. On the 15th dec 2018 it bottomed at 3k. Could 15th dec 2019 have reversal again?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5208757.msg53318853#msg53318853

I dunno, we were at the peak of an epic bullish rise in December 2017. We were at the absolute, depressing low of the last bear market in December 2018.

It seems December 2019 is like neither of the above, just an accumulation phase. The halving is in May 2020, the current situation is probably more similar to December 2015 or December 2016 (i.e. nothing-ness).
Allright then! ACcording to Gann theory the 22th December is very important. Maybe some whales who are rich AF do know this or they just buy or trade before this 22th dec date. 2017 and 2018 december were not the only bottoms. It's 2013 the bottom (flash crash) and in 2016 it was before the pump.
My hopium right now. Could this be it? The Gann theory. 22th December is important and on the 23rd we have 180 days from the high and 180 is very important.

Fuck the Gann theory.  All we need is numerology gaining too much ground in these here parts, and pretty soon we will be looking at the stars to figure out what to do next.


I already said it's not numerology. You could at least google it before you attack. But you're right about the stars. Gann doesn't pretend that they don't exist like you do. Could you live without the sun? I don't think so. Your body has water. Do you know what the moon is doing to oceans? Both moon and the sun influence the ocean tides. Now imagine what the moon does to your water in your body. Your body contains maybe 70% of water. We can predict the human behavior such as a higher activity and trading. Psihology of trading.
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They also like clothes or new shoes perhaps. Is she a boots kind of woman? Nice, fluffy winter boots.

Now I have a question for you:

In Belgium, do you guys have Belgian Waffles, or do you just call them "waffles"?

We have Brusselse wafels, Luikse wafels and in Holland they have stroopwafels

Actually more interesting.... why call it French fries when it’s a Belgian thing???

Huh Huh

Americans confuse European things often. e.g. Brussel sprouts originate in the Mediterranean not Brussels. Americans thinking that Deutsch (German) is the same as Dutch because the words are similar (in fact the origin of the word Dutch comes from some confused people calling it Deutsch). Etcetera.
Deutch-Dutch..... Die Gesundheit - de gezondheid......Die Regel- de regel......die Geduld-het geduld......Der Speigel-de spiegel.......Schaden=Schaden.... . .warum-waarom........reisen-reizen.....vor-voor...der Artz-de arts..........................
 .die Geduld-het geduld...der Lohn-het loon....dankbar-daankbar...der Tag-de dag...... .    Geheim, morgen, weg, hallo the same and many more. Deutch is dutch

fahrvergnügen.....farfegnugen  Deutsch is English
The Angles and Saxons came to Britain from todays Germany more or less. Angles teritory is in todays germany and denmark. Saxons teritory is in todays germany. In ancient times there were much more  common germanic words in english language. Until they changed english to modernize for some reason. The britains came to claim america and other parts of the world. America or USA still going around the world to different countries to spread their power and will.
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I already said it's not numerology.

I know you did, but you are relying on one or two dates for something to happen.  Sounds like numerology to me.

you could at least google it before you attack.

I already saw sufficient information on then nonsense in order to justify my point.. whether you call it numerology or you call it calendarology - aka random superstition.

But you're right about the stars. Gann doesn't pretend that they don't exist like you do.

Do you believe that you are talking with a flat earther?  Don't know where you get that information.  You are the one with the calendarology theory.

Could you live without the sun? I don't think so.

Oh?  Now you are moving over to astrology?

Your body has water.

Of course it does.  Does bitcoin price movement have friction based on water?

Do you know what the moon is doing to oceans?

Oh god... Stop attempting to be patronizing.  You are not very good at it.... or are you attempting the Socratic method? 

You are not good at that, either.
 

Both moon and the sun influence the ocean tides.

 Fair enough, but what does that have to do with the price of tea in china?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Now imagine what the moon does to your water in your body.


 I am imagining, hmmmmmm    hmmmmmm   hmmmmmm


It's not helping me with the bitcoin price, so far.   Shocked

Your body contains maybe 70% of water. We can predict the human behavior such as a higher activity and trading. Psihology of trading.

Sounds like you are really onto something.

Hairy, you are fired!!!!    We have a new and improved thread BTC price prediction replacement for you.  Hairy Guru, version 2.. new and improved... and better than the lame-ass fractal theories you been spouting out, especially recently.

We now know what bitcoin price is going to do more accurately.  You can still serve as a back up thread price prediction Guru, though, but you have to take lessons from jupiter9 (who is actually BIGGER and more influential than jupiter1).   Wink
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