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[jbreher]

Sounds reasonable. When you make a mistake, you make up for it. They caused us, the entire rest of the world, financial losses. Their mistake, theirs to fix.

The issue is not even with their inability to pay. It's that they won't even try, won't even admit they did anything wrong. They are blaming everyone other than themselves.

They are a negative influence on the entire human species. There is nothing good about them. If they will not at least make up for their mistakes, or deliberate attacks as the case may be, then it does not benefit us to allow them to live.

Who -- exactly -- is the they to which you refer? Do you put forth the notion that over a billion people are individually culpable, and each and every man, woman, and child must be eradicated to avenge your outrage?

[fillippone]

A close friend invited me to his house today with questions on 'crypto'.  I just delivered my first solid home run for BTC and topped it with a new Trezor.  Stoked personally because that gap of knowing something and being able to speak about it is closing in, didn't even blink    
This friend is a well to do businessman, healthy boomer, searching for hard assets with a goal to get their money out of the banking system.  Only a few degrees away from mainstream.
Be ready for it, its here.  
 

Same happened to me a couple of weeks ago.
Of course it didn't happen in real life, but a very long telephone conversation.
I said at one point "Hey, someone gave me a link to a Bitcoin expert's forum, there this guy posted a very good resource repository to convince you to buy bitcoins!".

5 Resources to teach Average Joe about Bitcoin.

It actually was the italian version of this thread, but you get the point.

We are again in those days where a lot of persons ask you about corn, but for the FIRST TIME it is not when the price is skyrocketing.
This is very interesting bullish in my opinion.

[Arriemoller]

Price guide for anyone done a disservice by their local walmart and has an A-10 tank killer parked outside waiting for a refill, its the far right one.
https://rense.com/general93/big.htm




2 day and weekly average are in the same place just above with monthly not far below for a boundary either side.   Target downside would be 6400

I have two of these at home.

 





They are for the 12 cm tornautomatpjäs m/70 that I served at  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12_cm_tornautomatpj%C3%A4s_m/70
Actually I seved on the Bofors 40 mm AA guns supporting it, but it was all one unit and we were all in the same underground building. I was controlling the guns from my station in the control room. There is some good pictures of the station and the whole thing online, but they are all in some weird format that I cant open (webp.) but here is the link to the pictures. http://www.skymningslage.se/batteri-landsort/



Finaly came across a picture of my workstation. When in use there would of course be a headset and maps and all sorts of stuff all around it. Remember we are talking 1980-1990 here.




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[VB1001]

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[VB1001]

Oh man, WalMart dropped artillery from their approved ammunition sales.

where am I going to get my 357mm now?

For me the best caliber, any 357 gun supports 38sp caliber, buy 38sp

[Ibian]

Sounds reasonable. When you make a mistake, you make up for it. They caused us, the entire rest of the world, financial losses. Their mistake, theirs to fix.

The issue is not even with their inability to pay. It's that they won't even try, won't even admit they did anything wrong. They are blaming everyone other than themselves.

They are a negative influence on the entire human species. There is nothing good about them. If they will not at least make up for their mistakes, or deliberate attacks as the case may be, then it does not benefit us to allow them to live.

Who -- exactly -- is the they to which you refer? Do you put forth the notion that over a billion people are individually culpable, and each and every man, woman, and child must be eradicated to avenge your outrage?

It's not about me.

[JayJuanGee]

Sounds reasonable. When you make a mistake, you make up for it. They caused us, the entire rest of the world, financial losses. Their mistake, theirs to fix.

The issue is not even with their inability to pay. It's that they won't even try, won't even admit they did anything wrong. They are blaming everyone other than themselves.

They are a negative influence on the entire human species. There is nothing good about them. If they will not at least make up for their mistakes, or deliberate attacks as the case may be, then it does not benefit us to allow them to live.

Who -- exactly -- is the they to which you refer? Do you put forth the notion that over a billion people are individually culpable, and each and every man, woman, and child must be eradicated to avenge your outrage?

It's not about me.

Answering the question should not be that difficult, Ibian.

You seem to have been saying that "they" is china or chinese people?  I think that you are saying the latter, but you are the one who should be best to clarify what you mean, instead of just deflecting or avoiding, which seems to be amongst the best of your specialties.. ornery and evasive...  but nonetheless, self-righteous.  What a combination of attributes.    

By the way, the ideas are in your lil noggen of a head, so it is all about you, at least you are the one making the statements, so it is an attempt to clarify your thoughts, to the extent that you have anything that is possibly coherent and feasible within there... which is quite doubtful.... and you seem to prove it yourself without anyone really needing to argue  with you....   you seem to be proving your own level of dumb.



 thanks for entertaining us...   

[Last of the V8s]

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There you go chaps, this virus has achieved something that our ladies could never have thought possible

Looks as if the result of the epidemic will be to keep us under the thumb “Petticoat Rule”!!

 To sum it up



Bless Her


  Hon. Sec.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

In a few years people will look back at the price of $68xx & be depressed at selling in that price range.

Please fellow HODLERS, don’t sell at this pathetic price - DON’T BE A GREG!

[fillippone]

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Finaly came across a picture of my workstation. When in use there would of course be a headset and maps and all sorts of stuff all around it. Remember we are talking 1980-1990 here.




Edited.

Were you trying to save the world entering numbers in that computer?

I don't want to sound offensive, but this recalls me Lost's Desmond in "Man of Science, Man of Faith".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgsNjTyGsRk

[Arriemoller]

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Finaly came across a picture of my workstation. When in use there would of course be a headset and maps and all sorts of stuff all around it. Remember we are talking 1980-1990 here.




Edited.

Were you trying to save the world entering numbers in that computer?

I don't want to sound offensive, but this recalls me Lost's Desmond in "Man of Science, Man of Faith".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgsNjTyGsRk

Kind of, you would enter air pressure, wind speed, direction of the wind, temperature, speed of the projectile and possible something more I have forgotten now. And then the computer would use those parameters to make sure the projectile hits what you are aiming at.
The joystick would steer the AA guns shooting in parallell and I would see the target on the screen.
The screen had a x on it in that mode, and when the target was in the x you would let go of the button on top of the joystick and the computer would track automatically, all you had to do was press the pedal and shoot a 8 shot burst, see what happened and repeat until target was destroyed.

Today all this is replaced by the AA version of the CV 90
https://www.forsvarsmakten.se/sv/information-och-fakta/materiel-och-teknik/mark/luftvarnskanonvagn-90/

[machasm]

In a few years people will look back at the price of $68xx & be depressed at selling in that price range.

Please fellow HODLERS, don’t sell at this pathetic price - DON’T BE A GREG!

Whats more, If he had held on to them till today he would be getting close to $12,000,000
Something to think about guys.

[fillippone]

In a few years people will look back at the price of $68xx & be depressed at selling in that price range.

Please fellow HODLERS, don’t sell at this pathetic price - DON’T BE A GREG!

Whats more, If he had held on to them till today he would be getting close to $12,000,000
Something to think about guys.

Hardly doubt that someone who sold @0.30 would have HODLED on the way from 0.31 to 20,000 and back.
This is why this kind of "what if had I bought BTC in 2010" are just worthless speculation.
 

[vapourminer]

What's next, a study giving HCQ to people already in the morgue?

only if insurance still covers it.

[Phil_S]

nope

borders closed

Hopefully, $7000 border is not closed.

[machasm]

Hardly doubt that someone who sold @0.30 would have HODLED on the way from 0.31 to 20,000 and back.
This is why this kind of "what if had I bought BTC in 2010" are just worthless speculation.

At least hold on to some of it. Why sell everything?
Stagger your sell positions for all eventualities.

[vapourminer]

Bless Her

at least a pillow is more comfortable than the plastic wrap that my wife saved me with the other day.

[ivomm]

In a few years people will look back at the price of $68xx & be depressed at selling in that price range.

Please fellow HODLERS, don’t sell at this pathetic price - DON’T BE A GREG!

Whats more, If he had held on to them till today he would be getting close to $12,000,000
Something to think about guys.

Hardly doubt that someone who sold @0.30 would have HODLED on the way from 0.31 to 20,000 and back.
This is why this kind of "what if had I bought BTC in 2010" are just worthless speculation.
 

I agree that if someone is not a hardened holder it doesn't matter when he buys. He can sell anytime with a profit<100% or even without profit like mindrust. But if someone enters before 2016 and learns from his mistakes, he could make at least 10 fold profit waiting maximum 2  years. Now the new holders like me who entered in 2017 at prices around $4.4k, have a mere 50% profit. This is still beyond most of the stocks can provide, but it is not to be compared with 10 fold, not to speak 100 fold profits, which one could realize if the buy price was $200 in 2015 and the sell price $20K in December 2017. And there were much more dramatic crashes in the last 3 years than any time interval before that. So  for the new holders  it is becoming increasingly difficult both in terms of time and mental resilience to the crashes. I will be waiting for at least 10 fold profit, i.e., prices above $40K, but I realize that I will have to wait at least 1 more year for that. More probably 2-3 years and less probable (but still possible) more than 3 years. So at the end we compare 100 fold profits for 2 years with 10 fold profit for >5 years.  I am not saying that everyone made that profit, but with the best decisions in both eras, these are the numbers.

[fillippone]

Bitcoin Optech Newsletter #94 is out.

Most important develpment in my humble opinion:

BTCPay adds support for sending and receiving payjoined payments: payjoin is a protocol that increases the privacy of Bitcoin payments by including inputs from both the spender and the receiver in an onchain transaction. This prevents an outside observer examining block chain data from assuming all inputs in that transaction belong to the same user (e.g.1). If a significant number of people use payjoin, this makes the common input heuristic used by block chain analysts much less reliable, improving privacy for even Bitcoin users who aren’t using payjoin.

This week, BTCPay announced the release of version 1.0.4.0 which includes an implementation of payjoin support for both receiving payments in payment processor mode and sending them using BTCPay’s internal wallet. For details on using the protocol, see their user guide. For technical details on their implementation, see their specification or the issue where future improvements are being actively discussed. For this change to have the maximum impact, other popular wallets need to implement support for creating compatible payjoin payments.

What is a Payjoin?




Why it is important ?

Privacy, a scarce resource largely unappreciated.

Again, a brush up on why we should be all concerned about privacy.


A Treatise On Bitcoin And Privacy Part 1: A Match Made In The Whitepaper

How one’s focus can shift in just two weeks! While today everybody in the Bitcoin space seems more concerned with price fluctuations in response to the global financial panic (understandably so), it’s important to remember perennial issues that never go away, like the importance of maintaining your privacy when you transact in bitcoin. Throughout this month especially, we’ve been hearing reports of KYC/AML-compliant exchanges freezing user accounts due to suspected use of CoinJoin software (more on that later), followed by yet another case of a famous and respected early Bitcoin proponent promoting his new illiquid altcoin as something that “will replace Bitcoin, which isn’t private enough!”

If you want to take a short break from global pandemics, financial meltdowns and price volatility, here’s an attempt at analyzing claims, facts and context of this latest “Bitcoin drama.” To begin with, in Part 1 of this two-part series, we’ll start by looking at the fundamental relationship between Bitcoin and privacy by going back to the beginning with the whitepaper. Then, in Part 2, we’ll focus on some the ways that Bitcoin privacy is being maintained and improved upon — and strike down a few “red herrings.”

A Treatise On Bitcoin And Privacy Part 2: Don’t Be Misled By Red Herrings

In Part One of this treatise, we examined the fundamental relationship between Bitcoin and privacy by going back to the beginning with the whitepaper. In spite of some excellent privacy preserving options  that have been available to users since those early days, we seem to have taken a few wrong turns. But to fix it, in order to make Bitcoin’s privacy “great again,” we must be able to distinguish between real privacy and red herrings that can only lead us further off the path.

[rolling]

In a few years people will look back at the price of $68xx & be depressed at selling in that price range.

Please fellow HODLERS, don’t sell at this pathetic price - DON’T BE A GREG!

The world is full of Gregs. Wait until we get to $1,000,000 or $5,000,000 and most people on here sold at $25k-$100k. Never go full retard, no matter the price.