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February 19, 2023, 01:03:35 PM
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Seems like we could be ready for another leg up soon. Bears have had long enough now to send us down & failed. Lots of strong hands simply unwilling to sell at these prices in this game. I’m not saying that a black swan & some bull shit caused by a potential depression couldn’t send us lower but it does feel like we have very little selling pressure right now.

I’m calling $27,000 by the end of the month (don’t quote me Wink)


Bears are going into hibernation. Winter is nearly over and we are close to breaking the $25,000 resistance. If we break that in the next 48 hours and remain there for at least 24 hours after breaking it I can see us hitting $30,000 because many of the bears are hanging onto that $25,000 resistance and as soon as it is broken they will be converted to bulls and will look to purchase because of FOMO.

I am not sure what that means for March or April we could see a small correction but I think if we break $25,000 we will not be returning there at least for this year and with the halving in 2024 I do not see us dropping back down next year. It might be the last time we see BTC in the 20,000 area.
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EOL, buddy

I could throw you a bone, Biodom - even though we may well be making similar points in regards towards difficult aspects of the short term success of any BTC accumulation theory, and so in that regard, it seems that both the DCA'ers and the lump summers could have well gotten themselves into pickles in terms of their BTC accumulation strategies over the past two to three years.

Surely, there would not been as many problems for guys/gals who had done most of their BTC accumulation prior to September 2020.. and maybe they could have even gotten away with a certain amount of success to have had done the vast majority of their accumulation prior to January 2021.. even though we had already reached new ATH (supra $20k the first time around in December 2020).

A lump summer would have been advantaged to buy prior to January 2021, but could have felt fucked to have had bought after that time... at least until we get back into June 2022 or so, then lump summers might have felt good, but still way too little time to allow for the whole matter to play out.. since we still seem to be in our current price doldrums - presuming that at some point we will get out of such current price doldrums (and get back above the 100-week moving average would be a good feeling... although the 100-week moving average is currently dropping - at a somewhat slow pace, so will we get back above the 100-week moving average, or will it come down to meet us?  .. hahahaha $36,726 currently as I type this post).

Of course, one of the disadvantages of DCA over the past couple of years (even going back to September 2020-ish) would have been that on average the BTC price would have (overall) been higher than it is now.. so a DCA'er would have been disadvantaged by that and even caught into a kind of dilemma regarding whether to get in to BTC, even though the BTC price was going up for that whole time.. so a DCA'er might have had felt that s/he did not have much of a choice, especially if they do not even have a lump sum that is available to them, unless they did do something like Saylor and borrow in September 2020 in order to frontload their BTC and also frontload the fact that they did not have cash while anticipating that they did have a cashflow.  

Part of Saylor's own strategic blunder in which he got into bitcoin in July 2020 personally and in August 2020 for his company is that his first investments into bitcoin were sufficiently aggressive (around the $10k price range) with quite high portions of his own and his company's personal treasury (something like 75% or more), but then he did not really start getting into the leveraging up of BTC purchases until the BTC price was way higher which caused his average price per BTC to shoot up into the $30k territory, even though he started out with a decently low average cost per BTC and many folks would have had considered that he had already bought enough BTC when he had already bought 75%-ish of is personal/company treasury into BTC, so why buy more, but instead Saylor had to "one-up" in terms of his financial creativity to use various forms of fairly creative leveraging opportunities to cause his BTC stash to go up by more than 4x the original amounts bought, but buying those BTC at quite higher prices too... but still he is likely going to be fine because the vast majority (if not all) of his various financial instruments were structured in such a way that they were quite well serviceable with existing cashflow and even out into a time line of due dates that were quite far out into the future (5 years or more) for when he entered into the various relations, and some of those "creative" financial instruments were not even borrowing, but instead disclosing that company shares would be used as collateral to buy BTC - meaning that that money does not need to be paid back, but would have the potential of diluting company shares (or at least leverage company shares into bitcoin more than the whole company had already been leveraged into bitcoin).

My point is that there are various ways to play these getting into bitcoin strategies, and even if I might be throwing you a wee little bit of a bone, I am not going to concede that lump summing is anything to necessarily do lightly, and as you likely may be realizing (if anything might be able to be sunk into your thick skull?) is that I have never suggested that DCA is the ONLY strategy, but I stick to my guns to suggest that it is way more the more basic entry-level strategy, even though likely many normies are tempted to lump sum, just like many normies are tempted to gamble and just like many normies have difficulties thinking in terms of increments so normies tend to have natural inclinations to think in terms of all or nothing, and lump summing plays into their tendencies, even though it is likely NOT the better starting approach, even if there may well be times in which lump summing could work better to replace or to supplement DCA.. and sure, maybe I would be hesitant to suggest that lump summing should ever completely replace DCA.. but there are scenarios in which any of us might get into an asset.. even  BTC in such a way that we are front-loaded into it (a kind of lump summing) that would then justify the potential that DCAing would not be justified or necessary since we had already bought a lot and if the price ended up going up from our (lump-summing) buying point(s).

Edit: By the way, the more I think about it, the more I consider that my own approach into bitcoin has quite a bit of lump summing elements in it, and even though I claim myself to be a DCA advocate, my own self-descriptions of what I did during my main (first) year of getting into bitcoin in 2014 was a kind of front-loading of my investment into BTC, but I did it in a DCA'ing kind of a way while attempting to reserve cash throughout the whole first year because I was not so dumb as to not be able to see that the charts showed that BTC prices had gone up 100x in 2013, so I bought initially to have some stake, and reserved money but continued to buy through the whole year.  Sure maybe you would suggest that I should have known better blah blah blah ( I heard it the whole fucking year in 2014.. everyone saying you should have known and you should have waited and blah blah blah.. but I continued to buy.. the BTC price went lower.. buy more.. and went lower buy more).. and waited the whole year so that I could have had pulled the trigger at any time in 2015 and would have had been better off.. but how the fuck is anyone really going to know with confidence?. maybe that was part of the reason that I continued to buy in 2015 and 2016, even though by the end of 2014, I had pretty high levels of confidence that I already had enough BTC. .but I kept buying with cashflow.. so 2015 and 2016 ended up playing out as a kind of ongoing DCA.. even though 2014 was a kind of DCA with frontloading intentions.. which was DCAing and lump summing.. and for myself, I really never felt any need to lump sum anymore after 2014.. because like I said, I already felt that I had enough... .. so there does seem to be some balancing of which approach might be more suitable based on how much BTC that you already have.. and the more you have, you may end up just strategically holding back, too.
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 I just can't understand how they arrived at the confidential code-name, "Sydney" rather than the obvious choice of "JayJuanGee".
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February 19, 2023, 02:39:46 PM

JUST IN: “If a platform is a silo, a protocol is a river: no one owns it, and everyone is free to swim.” - Ed Snowden

…Sounds like #Bitcoin and #Nostr 👀

https://twitter.com/BitcoinNewsCom/status/1626717186118291463?t=ak_EWg7AZUZMJ9QfR1hQnw&s=19

 ...or as we are seeing, free to piss.
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I just can't understand how they arrived at the confidential code-name, "Sydney" rather than the obvious choice of "JayJuanGee".

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 Nice but I hope they don't actually use printed menus; not for the sake of the planet but for their sanity as they will have to alter their prices quite regularly until Bitcoin becomes the global currency.

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February 19, 2023, 03:21:53 PM

Nice but I hope they don't actually use printed menus; not for the sake of the planet but for their sanity as they will have to alter their prices quite regularly until Bitcoin becomes the global currency.

As long as the price of BTC goes up and as long as the price of a few thousand or a few tens of thousands of Sastoshi does not seem like much to the buyer, I don't think the owner will worry too much about the menu - but after the price of BTC is double what it is today, I would seriously consider paying 1 salad $20 or more.

An electronic menu in a visible place that would automatically adjust to the BTC price would definitely make more sense.
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February 19, 2023, 03:23:31 PM

Oh. Hello there.

Wasn't expecting that green dildo in my ass like that.

Not complaining.

Have a good day, folks.
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Keep pushing chart buddy I see the head!

$100 away from the $25000! We could be entering a new bull season. If you told me that a month ago I would have probably called you delusional but here we are anticipating breaking the $25000 resistance.

As long as the price of BTC goes up and as long as the price of a few thousand or a few tens of thousands of Sastoshi does not seem like much to the buyer, I don't think the owner will worry too much about the menu - but after the price of BTC is double what it is today, I would seriously consider paying 1 salad $20 or more.

An electronic menu in a visible place that would automatically adjust to the BTC price would definitely make more sense.
Only while btc is volatile in many years and when the halving have disappeared this should not be a issue and printed menus can be used because the volatility should be less then it is today. I do not think small businesses could afford a system that is connected to a api and displays the btc equivalent for their menu items though.
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We bleed orange hello again $25k
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February 19, 2023, 04:34:12 PM

Hmm 25k again.

so retreat to 24k

or push on to 26k?


I really would like to see a dead solid 3k green candle today or tomorrow.
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bears trying to defend 25k
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Hmm 25k again.

so retreat to 24k
How dare you?

or push on to 26k?


I really would like to see a dead solid 3k green candle today or tomorrow.
That is better. I do not share the optimism of a 3k increase by today or tomorrow but maybe by the end of the week we can start pushing towards $30000 which will be the next resistance to beat. If we beat that we could be on the path of a very big bull run especially after the year of shit we have had.

bears trying to defend 25k
Trying is the key word.
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there could be too much expectation that we go through 25k very soon...
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Hmm 25k again.

so retreat to 24k

or push on to 26k?


I really would like to see a dead solid 3k green candle today or tomorrow.

I'd much prefer to see it tomorrow. All I'm after is a Weekly close above previous high of $24.3K, ideally above $24.5K Daily high close. Everything else risks heavy rejection right now (as already seen today) prior to any higher time-frame breakout confirmation. Also it's a Sunday, so much more chance or a low volume pump that risks rejection by Monday... more or less as we're already seeing today.

Currently returning to the local accumulation/distribution zone that volume has concentrated since Thursday. That's all I want to see until confirmation sets in by end of week. Patience is a virtue. Also, currently seeing the 4th consecutive rejection with bearish wicks from 50 Week MA on Daily time-frame, so best not to get carried away quite yet. Next week, it will be $300 lower which will be much better with price above...
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