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[qwk]

If there is consensus right now amongst relevant actors, it's that XT is not that solution.

Depending upon the definition of relevant actors.
I seriously doubt that "we", "the community" will be regarded as most relevant.
There is no "we, the people" in business.

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[Andre#]

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[Adrian-x]

Bitcoin XT is the only viable implementation of BIP 101

It is not.  Any miner can make a copy of XT and remove the patches that he objects to.  Or make a copy of Core and add only those XT patches that implement vote-triggered 8MB limit.

If you are not a miner, you (or any programmer you trust) can make a copy of Core, simply raise the size limit to 8 MB,  and start running that version any time before the fork actually happens.

I'm not sure the masses of adopters are gonna do this / or even know-care about the possibility. Vanilla XT is the intended norm.

I'm part of the Any miner people, I'll just use XT I can write a script but compiling code that's complicated stuff, I'll leave that to the developers.

[brg444]

If there is consensus right now amongst relevant actors, it's that XT is not that solution.

Depending upon the definition of relevant actors.
I seriously doubt that "we", "the community" will be regarded as most relevant.
There is no "we, the people" in business.

In general there is no "we, the people". It's just socialist propaganda.

[hdbuck]

If there is consensus right now amongst relevant actors, it's that XT is not that solution.

Depending upon the definition of relevant actors.
I seriously doubt that "we", "the community" will be regarded as most relevant.
There is no "we, the people" in business.

In general there is no "we, the people". It's just socialist propaganda.

spot on.

[Fatman3001]

If there is consensus right now amongst relevant actors, it's that XT is not that solution.

Depending upon the definition of relevant actors.
I seriously doubt that "we", "the community" will be regarded as most relevant.
There is no "we, the people" in business.

In general there is no "we, the people". It's just socialist propaganda.

Ok, now I understand. You're a nutter. Damn you internet!

[brg444]

If there is consensus right now amongst relevant actors, it's that XT is not that solution.

Depending upon the definition of relevant actors.
I seriously doubt that "we", "the community" will be regarded as most relevant.
There is no "we, the people" in business.

In general there is no "we, the people". It's just socialist propaganda.

Ok, now I understand. You're a nutter. Damn you internet!

TIL takine a stand for individual freedom = being a nutter

[ChartBuddy]

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[sAt0sHiFanClub]

If there is consensus right now amongst relevant actors, it's that XT is not that solution.

Depending upon the definition of relevant actors.
I seriously doubt that "we", "the community" will be regarded as most relevant.
There is no "we, the people" in business.

In general there is no "we, the people". It's just socialist propaganda.

spot on.

Core Duo....      Core²   And coming soon - Core(log^duo)

[poncho32]

Bitcoin XT is the only viable implementation of BIP 101

It is not.  Any miner can make a copy of XT and remove the patches that he objects to.  Or make a copy of Core and add only those XT patches that implement vote-triggered 8MB limit.

If you are not a miner, you (or any programmer you trust) can make a copy of Core, simply raise the size limit to 8 MB,  and start running that version any time before the fork actually happens.

I'm not sure the masses of adopters are gonna do this / or even know-care about the possibility. Vanilla XT is the intended norm.

I'm part of the Any miner people, I'll just use XT I can write a script but compiling code that's complicated stuff, I'll leave that to the developers.

There must be developers who are nothing to do with core/XT in this community who are capable of making those modifications and compiling a wallet. If some third party developers offered a third choice then more people might adopt that than the alternatives offered by core/XT. Professor Stolfi must be capable of doing the job if nobody else is prepared to do it, or capable of doing it.

[sAt0sHiFanClub]

Bitcoin XT is the only viable implementation of BIP 101

It is not.  Any miner can make a copy of XT and remove the patches that he objects to.  Or make a copy of Core and add only those XT patches that implement vote-triggered 8MB limit.

If you are not a miner, you (or any programmer you trust) can make a copy of Core, simply raise the size limit to 8 MB,  and start running that version any time before the fork actually happens.

I'm not sure the masses of adopters are gonna do this / or even know-care about the possibility. Vanilla XT is the intended norm.

I'm part of the Any miner people, I'll just use XT I can write a script but compiling code that's complicated stuff, I'll leave that to the developers.

There must be developers who are nothing to do with core/XT in this community who are capable of making those modifications and compiling a wallet. If some third party developers offered a third choice then more people might adopt that than the alternatives offered by core/XT. Professor Stolfi must be capable of doing the job if nobody else is prepared to do it, or capable of doing it.

There's actually nothing wrong with that. The nature of open source means that you can fork the code and change it as you wish. As long as you can get a majority to follow you that is.
Anyway, I dont think we are lacking choice here, with 2 versions of core and an unknown number of XT;s knocking about. Its consensus thats needed, and as the blockstream side have gone to great lengths to illustrate - that is not going to happen.

[fonsie]

Professor Stolfi must be capable of doing the job if nobody else is prepared to do it, or capable of doing it.

  Great joke!

[Fatman3001]

Did Blackspidey by any chance sell a ton of farmed accounts to lambie?

[poncho32]

Bitcoin XT is the only viable implementation of BIP 101

It is not.  Any miner can make a copy of XT and remove the patches that he objects to.  Or make a copy of Core and add only those XT patches that implement vote-triggered 8MB limit.

If you are not a miner, you (or any programmer you trust) can make a copy of Core, simply raise the size limit to 8 MB,  and start running that version any time before the fork actually happens.

I'm not sure the masses of adopters are gonna do this / or even know-care about the possibility. Vanilla XT is the intended norm.

I'm part of the Any miner people, I'll just use XT I can write a script but compiling code that's complicated stuff, I'll leave that to the developers.

There must be developers who are nothing to do with core/XT in this community who are capable of making those modifications and compiling a wallet. If some third party developers offered a third choice then more people might adopt that than the alternatives offered by core/XT. Professor Stolfi must be capable of doing the job if nobody else is prepared to do it, or capable of doing it.

There's actually nothing wrong with that. The nature of open source means that you can fork the code and change it as you wish. As long as you can get a majority to follow you that is.
Anyway, I dont think we are lacking choice here, with 2 versions of core and an unknown number of XT;s knocking about. Its consensus thats needed, and as the blockstream side have gone to great lengths to illustrate - that is not going to happen.

Yes but there is no choice that I know of that only involves 8MB blocks and misses out the blockstream stuff, and the gigabyte sized XT blocks. There might be some obscure XT version with only 9MB sized blocks but nobody trusts them not to start sneaking in other stuff. If there was a choice that only had the 8MB block change, and nothing else then the majority might decide to follow that even it it was by an unknown dev.

[Norway]

Did Blackspidey by any chance sell a ton of farmed accounts to lambie?

I get the same impression here. My finger is getting tired of clicking "ignore" now 

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[JorgeStolfi]

Professor Stolfi must be capable of doing the job if nobody else is prepared to do it, or capable of doing it.

  Great joke!

That would be funny indeed.  I do have a Github account...

Please someone do it, and remove the temptation.   

[bassclef]

Professor Stolfi must be capable of doing the job if nobody else is prepared to do it, or capable of doing it.

  Great joke!

That would be funny indeed.  I do have a Github account...

Please someone do it, and remove the temptation.   

Go for it! (Actually I'm serious)

[Fatman3001]

Professor Stolfi must be capable of doing the job if nobody else is prepared to do it, or capable of doing it.

  Great joke!

That would be funny indeed.  I do have a Github account...

Please someone do it, and remove the temptation.   

Beyond the obvious decision making problems it will face I fear Stolfi-coin might have some transaction confirmation issues.

http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~stolfi/NoEMail.html



It's definitely not a tx-spam fix.

[TerraMaster]

I look for BTC to get a bump out of the downed stock market. Lets hope so!