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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 5 (3.4%)
$75K to $80K - 1 (0.7%)
$80K to $85K - 2 (1.4%)
$85K to $90K - 10 (6.8%)
$90K to $95K - 15 (10.1%)
$95K to $100K - 29 (19.6%)
>$100K - 86 (58.1%)
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August 30, 2015, 01:06:59 PM

who will bother to open an account with coinbase to buy bitcoins so they can buy stuff while paying a high fee ?? whats the point.. pay high fees.. instead use a debit card doesnt cost end user nothing to use a debit card and its easy.. no reason to use bitcoin that has multiples of issues that we all are aware of .. and if you are a gun owner and support the second amendment then you need to oppose the implementation of the "blockchain blacklists" code. i happen to be one of the "dwayne" brothers and i think your "blockchain blacklists" is a real cute trick. obviously there is only once choice.. cripple bitcoin with low bandwidth, slow payments with high fees ...... RIP XT or bitcoin make your choice.

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Indeed. What is the point of buying bitcoins to buy stuff? That is the question maybe you should ask yourself.

Did you consider maybe you did not have the right idea about what Bitcoin's real utility is?

Bitcoin's utility is using it to buy stuff online. And it is close to being to the point where you can drop your bank.

It is merely a currency, you switch to whatever currency is best for the situation. I live in Germany but work for the military so I have access to the military base. Everything on the military base requires dollars, everything else requires euros. I am used to going back and forth between currencies. I don't "buy dollars" and watch the value fluctuate. I convert some euros to dollars and get enough for things I might need for that week. I convert bitcoins to euros with enough currency to pay for things in the near future. My reserve currency is bitcoins because it is easier to store and travel with bitcoins than with cash and that is what I am paid in. I don't worry too much about the value fluctuation other than spending more when the price goes up a lot and holding off when the price drops.

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You work for the military?

Isn't that the closest thing to living in a communist system in the west?

A miniature planned command economy?

Mind=Ultra Blown

I work for the military (contractor). I'm not in the military.

It would be like working for communist government elites who need shit to actually work because they can't get stuff working within their system, you get the money and can get the benefits of their system (cheaper/free food/gas) but being able to live in the private sector enjoying the free market.

Still have to work with the incompetence of the communist system though.
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who will bother to open an account with coinbase to buy bitcoins so they can buy stuff while paying a high fee ?? whats the point.. pay high fees.. instead use a debit card doesnt cost end user nothing to use a debit card and its easy.. no reason to use bitcoin that has multiples of issues that we all are aware of .. and if you are a gun owner and support the second amendment then you need to oppose the implementation of the "blockchain blacklists" code. i happen to be one of the "dwayne" brothers and i think your "blockchain blacklists" is a real cute trick. obviously there is only once choice.. cripple bitcoin with low bandwidth, slow payments with high fees ...... RIP XT or bitcoin make your choice.

about to get smacked down by the bear troll fud (i gotta get me one these cameras!) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIhCNbdIFT4

Indeed. What is the point of buying bitcoins to buy stuff? That is the question maybe you should ask yourself.

Did you consider maybe you did not have the right idea about what Bitcoin's real utility is?

Bitcoin's utility is using it to buy stuff online. And it is close to being to the point where you can drop your bank.

It is merely a currency, you switch to whatever currency is best for the situation. I live in Germany but work for the military so I have access to the military base. Everything on the military base requires dollars, everything else requires euros. I am used to going back and forth between currencies. I don't "buy dollars" and watch the value fluctuate. I convert some euros to dollars and get enough for things I might need for that week. I convert bitcoins to euros with enough currency to pay for things in the near future. My reserve currency is bitcoins because it is easier to store and travel with bitcoins than with cash and that is what I am paid in. I don't worry too much about the value fluctuation other than spending more when the price goes up a lot and holding off when the price drops.

Mind=Blown

You work for the military?

Isn't that the closest thing to living in a communist system in the west?

A miniature planned command economy?

Mind=Ultra Blown

I work for the military (contractor). I'm not in the military.

It would be like working for communist government elites who need shit to actually work because they can't get stuff working within their system, you get the money and can get the benefits of their system (cheaper/free food/gas) but being able to live in the private sector enjoying the free market.

Still have to work with the incompetence of the communist system though.

I understand you quite a bit better now. I've worked up against the military myself (not in, not for, but renting out property) and I would think it would be the epitome of everything you're against. If you want to go bark-raving-mad, try negotiating with the military. It's mind bending stupidity on an epic scale.
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I understand you quite a bit better now. I've worked up against the military myself (not in, not for, but renting out property) and I would think it would be the epitome of everything you're against. If you want to go bark-raving-mad, try negotiating with the military. It's mind bending stupidity on an epic scale.


I've seen how the British armed forces operates up close and it's a wonder they can dress themselves, let alone fight anyone.

I used to rent military land for events. Once upon a time we arrived at our site and a bunch of Marines ran up to us in a panic and told us to stay away  as they were testing some type of secret grenade launcher in their APC.

They said they'd be gone in half an hour when the truck arrived. Three days later we were joyriding in their APC and going down the local garage to feed them. No one had booked the truck and every time they called for extraction all knowledge of them was denied.

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I understand you quite a bit better now. I've worked up against the military myself (not in, not for, but renting out property) and I would think it would be the epitome of everything you're against. If you want to go bark-raving-mad, try negotiating with the military. It's mind bending stupidity on an epic scale.


I've seen how the British armed forces operates up close and it's a wonder they can dress themselves, let alone fight anyone.

I used to rent military land for events. Once upon a time we arrived at our site and a bunch of Marines ran up to us in a panic and told us to stay away  as they were testing some type of secret grenade launcher in their APC.

They said they'd be gone in half an hour when the truck arrived. Three days later we were joyriding in their APC and going down the local garage to feed them. No one had booked the truck and every time they called for extraction all knowledge of them was denied.



A local farmer I met had rented out part of his land for non-lethal weapons excercises (Basically laser tag). Part of the agreement was that he should have access to the forrest at set dates in order to extract timber. When he went to extract the timber he was told that his whole forrest was riddled with undetonated explosives. Including parts he had not rented out to the military.

Now, he was compensated ten-fold, but...

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August 30, 2015, 02:10:22 PM

5 days of flatlining. Except maybe that brief push 2 days ago.



Guess that's all for the weekend... no bullish trend change. If things don't change soon i'll close my long and take my losses.

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August 30, 2015, 02:21:09 PM

5 days of flatlining. Except maybe that brief push 2 days ago.



Guess that's all for the weekend... no bullish trend change. If things don't change soon i'll close my long and take my losses.

 Cry

Reading this and observing the doji hammer on the weekly scale I'd say we're pretty close to capitulation in 10 hours Wink
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Paywalled. Here's the article.

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Oh yeah!

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Derek White, chief design and digital officer at Barclays, said: "Barclays is enabling the bitcoin exchange to help charities accept bitcoin."

What exchange is that?  Bitstamp?  Kraken?
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August 30, 2015, 04:14:32 PM

YAY it's crashing and my long is still open. Thank god it's almost over.  Grin

Glad I can help twerpy Chinese dudes fund their tofu feasts.
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YAY it's crashing and my long is still open. Thank god it's almost over.  Grin

if you are long, you want them to go up, right?
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ONLY for donations? Wouldn't that mean that it will be converted into fiat and thus sold?
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ONLY for donations? Wouldn't that mean that it will be converted into fiat and thus sold?


Same as almost every other business that 'accepts' bitcoin.

There's never been an exchange endorsed, however modestly, by a UK bank yet. Looks like that's about to change with this experiment.
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YAY it's crashing and my long is still open. Thank god it's almost over.  Grin

if you are long, you want them to go up, right?

Nah I've already decided crypto is a shit investment. Maybe long term holding works for some but if you want a day trading experience it's expensive.

I'm not going to pull my money out though. I'd feel shame.
I will give it every chance it to redeem itself. But I'm just ready for it to end. I want it to either die hard or give me my money back ASAP. I will continue to try to "make money" fight the good fight. But really i'm tired of this game. It just looks like a ponzi scheme to me. But before I was playing computer games, at least now i've gotten a new hobby to kill time.

FYI I'm actually invested in Litecoin, I was making it not so bad back with bitcoin, and would have maybe broke even in fact, but I saw litecoin as a shortcut when it went up 4 dollars in a month.

Now Litecoin does exactly what Bitcoin does, & is not going up like it used to. That litecoin boom was and still IS a ponzi scheme. Litecoin is the shitcoin. Don't fuck with it.

But i'm a fighter so It's all or nothing for me. I'll gladly take nothing if only to move on with my life & stop wasting time circling my pathetic investment. lol.

The value to me is having learned quite a bit about economics.
Not everything, but allot more that I used to know. So i've gotten a good education, and I know the cryptocurrency thing is a dud, unless perhaps you're an experienced trader and know the market very well. There is quite a bit to learn and it's a 24/7 job.

Some Chinese turds have my money and they control the market. Chinese are the most devious people on earth. They are cunning. I live in China now, it's a "me first" greed fest from what I can tell, but then my Chinese isn't so good. Otherwise they are not such bad people. But they want money and authority with a passion, it's a nationalistic thing and unconscious passion just like everyone else.

Unless I can somehow reverse this death spiral, and which I will try, but highly doubt, I consider crypto a no-go, unless using it perhaps to transfer money in very tight periods of time.

BUT It's simply not a good investment from a layman's perspective, because it's expensive and complicated to buy, you have to go through 2 or 3 middlemen just to get it, then 2 or 3 middlemen to use it. It also depreciates allot more than it appreciates. If for example I asked my boss to pay me in bitcoin i'd be in bigger straits than with fiat.

It's just a stupid game / experiment to me. I'd never put in money I actually need to survive in this ridiculous ponzi scheme.

But I liked the idea of Bitcoin. But I kinda agree with Snowden. It's obviously flawed.

Death can be a relief. So either way i'm happy.

I await my margin call...  Grin
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