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[bitserve]

About the referendum it is indeed ilegal, as anyone that knows spanish law and constitution do inmediately realize. It was the Judges and not the government who sent the police to seize the ballot boxes.

Such laws are bull shit. Referendum for independence should be every Earthing right. And specially every Europeans right.  Europe dont exist without it. It is simple as that. Countries that dont care of their citizens rights have nothing to do in Europe.

Ok, so I can go and do a "referendum" with a bunch of my friends and decide, for example, that we are not going to pay any taxes anymore?

Can now Barcelona go a do a "referendum" and secede from catalonia? Can Girona?

Maybe they can.... is it legal? No. Do they have the right? No. Should they have that right? I don't think so, but it is of course opinable.

That said... I don't think any country would let me independence from it (and not pay taxes) while leaving inside its territory. Also, it would probably a chaos if it were possible because..... who the fuck wouldn't independece then? Who would pay taxes? Who would build roads, hospitals  or anything?

I don't think it is that simple as saying that there's absolutely no limits to freedom.

P.S.: If anyone knows of a country where that is possible (and living is GOOD), just tell me. I can relocate

[conspirosphere.tk]

It has become more and more expensive for big projects to happen, like tunnels through mountains, huge highways or bridges. People don't understand

Do they have the right? No.

Then they are fucking cattle. Interesting.

[bitserve]

Do they have the right? No.

Then they are fucking cattle. Interesting.

Not having a right doesn't mean not having an opinion or even fighting for it. Anyway, any utopian place in the world where that would be possible?

[conspirosphere.tk]

Do they have the right? No.

Then they are fucking cattle. Interesting.

Not having a right doesn't mean not having an opinion or even fighting for it. Anyway, any utopian place in the world where that would be possible?

You don't ask for permissions to practice anarchy.

[bitserve]

Do they have the right? No.

Then they are fucking cattle. Interesting.

Not having a right doesn't mean not having an opinion or even fighting for it. Anyway, any utopian place in the world where that would be possible?

You don't ask for permissions to practice anarchy.

Then anarchy is unpractical

[savetherainforest]

It has become more and more expensive for big projects to happen, like tunnels through mountains, huge highways or bridges. People don't understand

Bravo Sir!




But we only live one life. And need to protect and treasure it!... The ones of us that don't bust our asses for others, and just steal from other newbs from the exchanges, we may have a higher standards regarding "what is fair?". And the sheeple seem to wake up as well. So, dunno for how long there will be such complex system of slavery in place. Or how we will come up with something to replace the old unfair one, but I think probably robots.

[Febo]

About the referendum it is indeed ilegal, as anyone that knows spanish law and constitution do inmediately realize. It was the Judges and not the government who sent the police to seize the ballot boxes.

Such laws are bull shit. Referendum for independence should be every Earthing right. And specially every Europeans right.  Europe dont exist without it. It is simple as that. Countries that dont care of their citizens rights have nothing to do in Europe.

Ok, so I can go and do a "referendum" with a bunch of my friends and decide, for example, that we are not going to pay any taxes anymore?

If your country can run without why not. But yes you should have right to start own country. With your friends yes. and you will together decide if you need taxes or not.  I do believe 5 milions people can run one for themself.  you and your fiends might have troubles. specially without taxes.

About the referendum it is indeed ilegal, as anyone that knows spanish law and constitution do inmediately realize. It was the Judges and not the government who sent the police to seize the ballot boxes.

Such laws are bull shit. Referendum for independence should be every Earthing right. And specially every Europeans right.  Europe dont exist without it. It is simple as that. Countries that dont care of their citizens rights have nothing to do in Europe.

Nobody living in EU would speak about Europe like that - do you live in Europe?

Yes. Why should I bother otherwise. I also live on Earth.

Europe without free Europeans is not an Europe!


In general. Catatonians without their own army will never independent.  They need every 20 years old male to be able to handle weapons and own army. Spain politicians will never let lose 20% of their country with the fight. And Europe politicians will just follow nonhuman laws.

[d_eddie]

...lol with the recent news from Russia re competing with China in Bitcon mining - coupled with the faux China ban , and taken into context with the usual bullshit the MSM spout..

This "supposed" Russia "ban"

Who could really give a flying fuck.

Not me that is for sure.

Not a single fuck given.

(Even if Putin were to come into my  house and smack the hardware  wallet outta my hands I would still laugh in his face)

He would do a little martial arts on you, and you would not be laughing, then ...  

With current USA gun laws, if a foreigner comes and smacks anything precious out of the houseowner's hands, are you really sure it is the trespasser who's going to laugh last?

"At first I only kneecapped him, but then he grabbed the hammer and threw it at me... I was really afraid for my (my wife's/my children's) safety... so I kept on shooting until he stopped moving... honest, officer."

[bitserve]

...lol with the recent news from Russia re competing with China in Bitcon mining - coupled with the faux China ban , and taken into context with the usual bullshit the MSM spout..

This "supposed" Russia "ban"

Who could really give a flying fuck.

Not me that is for sure.

Not a single fuck given.

(Even if Putin were to come into my  house and smack the hardware  wallet outta my hands I would still laugh in his face)

He would do a little martial arts on you, and you would not be laughing, then ... 

With current USA gun laws, if a foreigner comes and smacks anything precious out of the houseowner's hands, are you really sure it is the trespasser who's going to laugh last?

If the tresspasser is Vladimir Puttin, maybe. It is being rumored he killed Chuck Norris with a single finger.

[JimboToronto]

Good morning Bitcoinland.

I see we've kept most of yesterday's gains and continue to consolidate around $4.8k... currently $4808USD/$6007CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Meanwhile AltCash has recovered a little after yesterday's disaster but is still down on the day... currently $322USD/$403CAD (Coinmarketcap).

Consolidation is good.

A new ATH by the weekend would be good too though.  

[vit05]

52%. Is anyone believing that could pass 60% before November?

[Lauda]

About the referendum it is indeed ilegal, as anyone that knows spanish law and constitution do inmediately realize. It was the Judges and not the government who sent the police to seize the ballot boxes.

Illegal or not, you shouldn't beat your own people for: a) Peacefully protesting. b) Voting.

Such laws are bull shit. Referendum for independence should be every Earthing right. And specially every Europeans right.  Europe dont exist without it. It is simple as that. Countries that dont care of their citizens rights have nothing to do in Europe.

Nobody living in EU would speak about Europe like that - do you live in Europe?

Doubt it. He's highly uneducated apparently or just a random signature spammer (even though there are no signatures in this thread).

A new ATH by the weekend would be good too though.  

I'm waiting for a certain Jimbo from Toronto to pump it.

[bitserve]

52%. Is anyone believing that could pass 60% before November?

It was 87% just a few months ago so.... why not?

I would say it has more run up than down from here.

[bitserve]

About the referendum it is indeed ilegal, as anyone that knows spanish law and constitution do inmediately realize. It was the Judges and not the government who sent the police to seize the ballot boxes.

Illegal or not, you shouldn't beat your own people for: a) Peacefully protesting. b) Voting.

I do completely agree. AFAIK noone was beaten for that (trying to vote or peacefully protesting). Police had strict orders from Judge to seize ballot boxes, the only people that were beaten were actively hindering (not sure if that is the right english word) the police job. In fact, in most the places they were not able to comply orders because it would have mean a major confrontation and put people (and police units themselves) in higher danger. It was an extremely complex operative, probably the most complex this country has ever coped with.

I do also recognize this incident have had a very bad impact in international media. It would have been way better to have intervened way sooner and just arrest the promoters of the rebelion without exposing any law-abiding citizens to any innecesary risk.

[JimboToronto]

I'm waiting for a certain Jimbo from Toronto to pump it.

Sorry. I only buy dips. 

[yefi]

He would do a little martial arts on you, and you would not be laughing, then ... 

Or start riding his bear, that'd definitely make me shit my pants.

[ragnar0k]

Nobody living in EU would speak about Europe like that - do you live in Europe?

Yes. Why should I bother otherwise. I also live on Earth.

Europe without free Europeans is not an Europe!

In general. Catatonians without their own army will never independent.  They need every 20 years old male to be able to handle weapons and own army. Spain politicians will never let lose 20% of their country with the fight. And Europe politicians will just follow nonhuman laws.

Europe is an olygarchy, and should be considered as such. Catalonians will be beaten to the pulp if they continue this way, the king does not allow it.
I think the ugly side of EU is just giving more anger and fuel to independent movements, which unfortunately tend to direct their anger to the wrong target. And I see from bitserve that the propaganda machine is already at work denying the beatings, so typical. Because Spanish 18% of unemployment and 50% taxes are not enough, they also enjoy watching their fellow nationals being beaten...

[jojo69]

But there is a trend on a global scale to refuse to give money to a central government for services that don't happen.

Let's just be glad we're not getting the government we're paying for.

[hd060053]

New ATH is incoming now. You all know it

But dont forget about the legit Altcoins like XMR, they are increadible cheap to buy now.

[Spaceman_Spiff_Original]

Yeehaw , there she blows