Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[JimboToronto]

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10/10 bikerlezno*     LAST WINNER

it looks like lightning will strike twice at the same spot.

A new ATH within 2 hours? I doubt it.

I think Ted E Bare and HarryMMMM have a much better chance, or maybe Cryptoqueen.

[Arriemoller]

But what do I know, except making up numbers?   

 

Another 6 months of bullrun is fine by me

IF this is the start of the s-curve, we are in for a 20 year bull run.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

How long until Goldman Sachs starts walking us back down?

Just askin'.

[Wilhelm]

- the world should unite instead of break down

the world is a globe, so it's already 1.
unless you mean one fuhrer or a(nother) bureaucratic monster to rule it, in which case you better count me out.

I meant that we should live together happily instead of fight each other's differences.
Not that it needs to be one country.

I'm not suggesting the fourth Reich under dictatorship.

[Ibian]

Humans are tribal animals. Any system that doesn't start from there is going to fail. Global peace is impossible.

[becoin]

How long until Goldman Sachs starts walking us back down?

Just askin'.

Nobody here cares about banks!

Just respondin'.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

[fabiorem]

Seems like we're experiencing the usual correction/profit-taking after today's jump up past $4.9k.

How long will this last? Yesterday's lasted almost a day.

My guess is that the resistance and fiat profit-taking will increase as we approach the ATH.

This might take another day or two.

At least we have a floor consolidated at $4000.

[JayJuanGee]

52%. Is anyone believing that could pass 60% before November?

It was 87% just a few months ago so.... why not?

I would say it has more run up than down from here.

Sure it is nice to see some gaining on the bitcoin side of the ledger in this overall crypto marketcap space; however, BTC's gaining is not any kind of meaningful measurement of the value of bitcoin, when we have certain kinds of dilution through forkenings and even some artificial pumpenings of the appearance of competitive market caps by some of the alts that restrict their supplies and engage in other shenanigan measures to increase their coinmarketcap.com showings.

Furthermore, Ripple, really?

Anyhow, nice to see bitcoin gaining in spite of some of the bullshit shenanigans - on the other hand, even if bitcoin were to become 30% or less of the space, under certain circumstances, it's relative market cap remains only part of the formula - and perhaps there is some value to have some folks putting money into distractions and likely inferior products that may well provide them some short term gains or even longer term gains if they can identify and invest in a foundationally strong "competitive" crypto product, rather than a smoke and mirrors product...

[savetherainforest]

I found stuff... good times... good memories...

Ha ha, someone should have told lambie about the slaughterhouse.  

[Arriemoller]

About the referendum it is indeed ilegal, as anyone that knows spanish law and constitution do inmediately realize. It was the Judges and not the government who sent the police to seize the ballot boxes.

Such laws are bull shit. Referendum for independence should be every Earthing right. And specially every Europeans right.  Europe dont exist without it. It is simple as that. Countries that dont care of their citizens rights have nothing to do in Europe.

Nobody living in EU would speak about Europe like that - do you live in Europe?

I would.

[El duderino_]

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10/10 bikerlezno*     LAST WINNER

it looks like lightning will strike twice at the same spot.

A new ATH within 2 hours? I doubt it.

I think Ted E Bare and HarryMMMM have a much better chance, or maybe Cryptoqueen.

Cryptoqueen would be crazy ....Thats my girlfriend and her Bday 😊 ;-)

[Arriemoller]

...lol with the recent news from Russia re competing with China in Bitcon mining - coupled with the faux China ban , and taken into context with the usual bullshit the MSM spout..

This "supposed" Russia "ban"

Who could really give a flying fuck.

Not me that is for sure.

Not a single fuck given.

(Even if Putin were to come into my  house and smack the hardware  wallet outta my hands I would still laugh in his face)

He would do a little martial arts on you, and you would not be laughing, then ...  

With current USA gun laws, if a foreigner comes and smacks anything precious out of the houseowner's hands, are you really sure it is the trespasser who's going to laugh last?

"At first I only kneecapped him, but then he grabbed the hammer and threw it at me... I was really afraid for my (my wife's/my children's) safety... so I kept on shooting until he stopped moving... honest, officer."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/16/putin-gunslinger-gait-kgb-training-report

[Arriemoller]

About the referendum it is indeed ilegal, as anyone that knows spanish law and constitution do inmediately realize. It was the Judges and not the government who sent the police to seize the ballot boxes.

Illegal or not, you shouldn't beat your own people for: a) Peacefully protesting. b) Voting.

I do completely agree. AFAIK noone was beaten for that (trying to vote or peacefully protesting). Police had strict orders from Judge to seize ballot boxes, the only people that were beaten were actively hindering (not sure if that is the right english word) the police job. In fact, in most the places they were not able to comply orders because it would have mean a major confrontation and put people (and police units themselves) in higher danger. It was an extremely complex operative, probably the most complex this country has ever coped with.

I do also recognize this incident have had a very bad impact in international media. It would have been way better to have intervened way sooner and just arrest the promoters of the rebelion without exposing any law-abiding citizens to any innecesary risk.

What possible motivation could there be for removing someones freedom of expression by using law?
It is acceptable that a government may take a different view to a sub set of it's people, but it is not acceptable that a government denies those people from  expressing themselves in a peaceful way,

It is a common misunderstanding that freedom of expression is an unlimited freedom. It isn't. You can't publish clearly racist manifests, etc...

But this is not a matter of free speech. It is a matter of breaking the law.

Expressing anything (not ilegal) in a peaceful way is ok.

Who has said/or done anything against that?

That's a EU thing, in the US you can. and in Sweden you used to, but not anymore. And I think that's wrong, You are either allowed to speak your mind on any subjekt or you don't have free speech. Partial free speech is not free speech.

Edit: erased the part my cat wrote.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

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10/10 bikerlezno*     LAST WINNER

it looks like lightning will strike twice at the same spot.

A new ATH within 2 hours? I doubt it.

I think Ted E Bare and HarryMMMM have a much better chance, or maybe Cryptoqueen.

Cryptoqueen would be crazy ....Thats my girlfriend and her Bday 😊 ;-)

She a Bitmain proxy, too?

[RoomBot]

- the world should unite instead of break down

the world is a globe, so it's already 1.
unless you mean one fuhrer or a(nother) bureaucratic monster to rule it, in which case you better count me out.

YUP & Bitcoin is uniting the globe more & more every day, in the best kind of way.

[JayJuanGee]

About the referendum it is indeed ilegal, as anyone that knows spanish law and constitution do inmediately realize. It was the Judges and not the government who sent the police to seize the ballot boxes.

Such laws are bull shit. Referendum for independence should be every Earthing right. And specially every Europeans right.  Europe dont exist without it. It is simple as that. Countries that dont care of their citizens rights have nothing to do in Europe.

Ok, so I can go and do a "referendum" with a bunch of my friends and decide, for example, that we are not going to pay any taxes anymore?

So if the miners decide to hardfork you follow them? Or do you stick to the consensus rules you choose? Imo Bitcoin shows the flaws of our legacy governance systems. They are are not able to soft fork. Only hard forks possible. Either you are with us or against us. Where it leads to can be found in various history books. Seems learning from past mistakes is impossible.

Seems like a newbie coming into this thread and making nonsensical assertions that bitcoin is broken and putting forth some kinds of misleading analogies....  yeah..bitcoin is broken because of its governance... and that is why prices are about to break ATHs? go figure?

[jbreher]

Do you really think you would be able to keep hodling them when someone went to beat you to death until you gave your private keys to them... because they have the "means" and "freedom" to take it from you?

Note that government has this exact power. Indeed, they exercise it regularly. Stop paying your income taxes, and see what comes of it.

Just because it is wrapped up in a pretty package of collectivism and so-called 'law' does not change the fact that it is forceful initiation of violence.

Incidentally, y'all gots a funny interpretation of 'free speech'. Like 'funny sick', not 'funny haha'.

[ragnar0k]

About the referendum it is indeed ilegal, as anyone that knows spanish law and constitution do inmediately realize. It was the Judges and not the government who sent the police to seize the ballot boxes.

Such laws are bull shit. Referendum for independence should be every Earthing right. And specially every Europeans right.  Europe dont exist without it. It is simple as that. Countries that dont care of their citizens rights have nothing to do in Europe.

Nobody living in EU would speak about Europe like that - do you live in Europe?

I would.

Looks from your posts you are Swedish, and bashing Sweden is way too easy!
Besides, despite your spiking crime rate since you joined the EU, you don't even have the euro to enjoy unemployment like your neighbour Finns do

[harrymmmm]

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10/10 bikerlezno*     LAST WINNER

it looks like lightning will strike twice at the same spot.

A new ATH within 2 hours? I doubt it.

I think Ted E Bare and HarryMMMM have a much better chance, or maybe Cryptoqueen.

Cryptoqueen would be crazy ....Thats my girlfriend and her Bday 😊 ;-)

I find myself suddenly interested in the minutia of this lottery. 
Is the ath on bitstamp?
Is the day measured from 0000UTC?