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[podyx]

Can anybody give some clarity on segwit 2x? I don't get it.

How high chance is it that it happens? Is it confirmed to happen and will it be a fork like bitcoin cash?

[Phil_S]

Russia ban Bitcoin
<-->PUMP

Nah, "Russia ban" is out of the question. Putin was on TV just now, discussing cryptocurrencies, said "I'm aware of Central Bank's position" , but "it's important not to create too many barriers".

[Ludwig Von]

About the referendum it is indeed ilegal, as anyone that knows spanish law and constitution do inmediately realize. It was the Judges and not the government who sent the police to seize the ballot boxes.

Illegal or not, you shouldn't beat your own people for: a) Peacefully protesting. b) Voting.

I do completely agree. AFAIK noone was beaten for that (trying to vote or peacefully protesting). Police had strict orders from Judge to seize ballot boxes, the only people that were beaten were actively hindering (not sure if that is the right english word) the police job. In fact, in most the places they were not able to comply orders because it would have mean a major confrontation and put people (and police units themselves) in higher danger. It was an extremely complex operative, probably the most complex this country has ever coped with.

I do also recognize this incident have had a very bad impact in international media. It would have been way better to have intervened way sooner and just arrest the promoters of the rebelion without exposing any law-abiding citizens to any innecesary risk.

What possible motivation could there be for removing someones freedom of expression by using law?
It is acceptable that a government may take a different view to a sub set of it's people, but it is not acceptable that a government denies those people from  expressing themselves in a peaceful way,

It is a common misunderstanding that freedom of expression is an unlimited freedom. It isn't. You can't publish clearly racist manifests, etc...

But this is not a matter of free speech. It is a matter of breaking the law.

Expressing anything (not ilegal) in a peaceful way is ok.

Who has said/or done anything against that?

Lol, the only thing they expressed in a peaceful way is their desire to separate from Spain. Which was promptly declared illegal and hence the following violence. Also, I do not think they expressed or published racist manifests... .

[DeathAngel]

Russia ban Bitcoin
<-->PUMP

Nah, "Russia ban" is out of the question. Putin was on TV just now, discussing cryptocurrencies, said "I'm aware of Central Bank's position" , but "it's important not to create too many barriers".

Superb!
Doubt it’d create any permanent damage any way. The community doesn’t give a crap about the China ban so it’d be no different if Russia did the same.

[starmman]

Russia ban Bitcoin
<-->PUMP

Nah, "Russia ban" is out of the question. Putin was on TV just now, discussing cryptocurrencies, said "I'm aware of Central Bank's position" , but "it's important not to create too many barriers".

Good to hear - its good to have Russia on board

[bitserve]

About the referendum it is indeed ilegal, as anyone that knows spanish law and constitution do inmediately realize. It was the Judges and not the government who sent the police to seize the ballot boxes.

Illegal or not, you shouldn't beat your own people for: a) Peacefully protesting. b) Voting.

I do completely agree. AFAIK noone was beaten for that (trying to vote or peacefully protesting). Police had strict orders from Judge to seize ballot boxes, the only people that were beaten were actively hindering (not sure if that is the right english word) the police job. In fact, in most the places they were not able to comply orders because it would have mean a major confrontation and put people (and police units themselves) in higher danger. It was an extremely complex operative, probably the most complex this country has ever coped with.

I do also recognize this incident have had a very bad impact in international media. It would have been way better to have intervened way sooner and just arrest the promoters of the rebelion without exposing any law-abiding citizens to any innecesary risk.

What possible motivation could there be for removing someones freedom of expression by using law?
It is acceptable that a government may take a different view to a sub set of it's people, but it is not acceptable that a government denies those people from  expressing themselves in a peaceful way,

It is a common misunderstanding that freedom of expression is an unlimited freedom. It isn't. You can't publish clearly racist manifests, etc...

But this is not a matter of free speech. It is a matter of breaking the law.

Expressing anything (not ilegal) in a peaceful way is ok.

Who has said/or done anything against that?

Lol, the only thing they expressed in a peaceful way is their desire to separate from Spain. Which was promptly declared illegal and hence the following violence. Also, I do not think they expressed or published racist manifests... .

YOu are right, they didn't (mostly) it was just an example that even freedom of expression has limits but, as I said, this is not a matter of freedom of expression.

The "violence" you are referring to was the outcome of police following an order from the Judges to seize the ballot boxes of an illegal "referendum". No videos I have seen show the people peacefully cooperating with law enforment on their task, on the contrary you can clearly see people actively obstructing the judicial mandate.

Anyone has the right to express their desire to separate from Spain or anything else that is not clearly ilegal (as blatant racism as an example) but NOONE has the right to be above the law and obstruct law enforcement in a task that has been ordered by the Judges. I don't think that is allowed anywhere in the world.

That said... I would have put all this shitshow to an end way sooner going directly for the promoters of the rebellion.  It is sad and very unfortunate things let go up to this point.

[starmman]

Switch them to BTC with Changelly and switch back when you think ATH has been reached.  

I won't. That would completely defeat their purpose as a hedge. I don't care how low they go as long as Bitcoin keeps rising

I suspect they will bounce back after the next fork - prices took a bit of a beating when [BCC|BCH] was released and bounced back immediately after the fork. I made more out of the alt volatility than if I'd pushed everything into BTC. Not sure if history will repeat itself though

[strawbs]

I know that the Bitcoin Gold fork is due to happen on October 25 but can anyone provide a date for the Segwitx2 fork? Thanks

[buyandhold]

I know that the Bitcoin Gold fork is due to happen on October 25 but can anyone provide a date for the Segwitx2 fork? Thanks

http://bashco.github.io/2x_Countdown/

Saturday, November 18, 2017, 5:29 AM
Greenwich Mean Time
This is a rough estimate based on the current block height, proposed block height
to attempt a hard fork, and an average block time of ten minutes per block.
current block: 489245
fork block: 494784
blocks remaining: 5539

[El duderino_]

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  Common , win iT 2 times This would be amazing in This unpredictable market

[Ted E. Bare]

We're getting close!!

[El duderino_]

We're getting close!!

I’m thinking if not today its you tommorrow ..... but 2 times same Guy would be like endboss

[vroom]

10/10 bikerlezno*     LAST WINNER

🤞🏻 🤞🏻 Common , win iT 2 times This would’t be amazing in This unpredictable market

that would be really amazing. What was bikerlezno's explanation?

[bikerleszno]

We're getting close!!

I’m thinking if not today its you tommorrow ..... but 2 times same Guy would be like endboss

I told u I am still waiting for my answer on priv messages...

[Ted E. Bare]

I agree, he has very good predictions.

[Meuh6879]

Almost ...

[CristiTCM]

We're getting close!!

I’m thinking if not today its you tommorrow ..... but 2 times same Guy would be like endboss

I told u I am still waiting for my answer on priv messages...

Did you win?

[JimboToronto]

Seems like we're experiencing the usual correction/profit-taking after today's jump up past $4.9k.

How long will this last? Yesterday's lasted almost a day.

My guess is that the resistance and fiat profit-taking will increase as we approach the ATH.

This might take another day or two.

[aso118]

$4905... Next stop, reverse gear to $4500? Take it as my prediction, I don't want that to happen though.

Why would Bitcoin stop at $4905? A lot of people will wait for it  hit $5000 before booking profits.
These are psychological barriers. Once we cross them and hold those levels, get ready for another rally.

[Ludwig Von]

We're getting close!!

I’m thinking if not today its you tommorrow ..... but 2 times same Guy would be like endboss

I told u I am still waiting for my answer on priv messages...

Did you win?

It is on 15, I told you so.