Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Fucking dumb ass question but how do you know if your bitcoin’s are being held in a SegWit or Non SegWit address?

Segwit addresses begin with a 3

So it’s a lot safer if my bitcoin’s are all held in addresses beginning with a 1

[bones261]

Fucking dumb ass question but how do you know if your bitcoin’s are being held in a SegWit or Non SegWit address?

If the address begins with 1, they are definitely not Segwit coins.
If the address begins with 3, they are held in a P2sH address. They could be segwit or could just be a multisign address. If the private keys are under your control, you should know. Likely they are a segwit address since you would definitely know if you set up a multisig address since it involves a very complicated process to set up. If the private keys are under someone else's control, like an exchange or online wallet, you will need to research or ask.
If the address begins with bc1, it is definitely a segwit address.

So it’s a lot safer if my bitcoin’s are all held in addresses beginning with a 1

Only if you believe that a fork that will treat and spend segwit coins as anyonecanspend transactions will eventually become the chain with the most work. (And also the chain with the most economical support.) Your segwit coins will be basically unspendable on this chain. As soon as you attempt to spend them, you can only use the segwit redeem script which the miners will appropriate for themselves as an anyonecanspend.
Your segwit coins are safe and sound on any fork that enforces segwit rules.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Fucking dumb ass question but how do you know if your bitcoin’s are being held in a SegWit or Non SegWit address?

If the address begins with 1, they are definitely not Segwit coins.
If the address begins with 3, they are held in a P2sH address. They could be segwit or could just be a multisign address. If the private keys are under your control, you should know. Likely they are a segwit address since you would definitely know if you set up a multisig address since it involves a very complicated process to set up. If the private keys are under someone else's control, like an exchange or online wallet, you will need to research or ask.
If the address begins with bc1, it is definitely a segwit address.

Pretty sure all of my bitcoin’s are in addresses begginning with a 1
I will need to check this tonight

But yes I am the sole owner of every single private key.

[kurious]

Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion is not the true vision of infofront.

infofront's true vision wouldn't let trolls to hijack this thread so easily. If this shit keeps happening, I'll have no choice but to fork this thread and start it again as it meant to be.

The new W/O thread will be ripped off from any troll protocols (like anonymint, roach, jbeher and other retards) and only infofront's true protocol to be left.

Raise hands now.

P.S: I won't be reverting your past crap. Your past messages (troll or not) will be safe.  I'll copy everything from this topic one by one but (tr00) moderation will be taking place by the page 20781.

Infofront isn't the true originator of this thread. adamstgBit is. However, adamstgBit became inactive. Bitcointalk locked this thread because it was becoming too much of a chore moderating it. They appointed infofront as the new OP,  to give this thread a little moderation.

I think there was an even earlier WO thread, still run by Adam that pre-dated even this one which started in 2013.  This one was supposed to be more 'on topic'

So this is at least version 2.0, maybe 2.1 since infofront took over when the thread was saved from closure.

[realr0ach]

Precious metals are no longer a Schelling point because of the technology that governments have now, metals can no longer be moved without being confiscated. Gold and silver are under the control of nation-states, but Bitcoin has jurisdictional arbitrage and can’t be controlled by any partial grouping of nation-states.

Once again you have gotten your facts 100% opposite of what they are in reality.  It's ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE more cost effective to create and run a police state in cyberspace than in the physical world.  So, no, metals are not at risk because nobody can afford to create a police state monitoring what everyone does in the physical plane, but they can easily do so for the digital one.  You're using the govt's own infrastructure in the first place.  Please do not try to pass off such statements that are laughable at face value as facts.  

Shitcoins are the ones at risk due to having no valid Schelling point and ease of govt clamp down, not metals.  If the govt attempts to outlaw silver and gold, they do not cease to exist.  They still exist and have value.  Since shitcoins have no intrinsic use or value, a govt clampdown destroys them.  They're completely worthless.  And yes, Kaczynski was right no matter how much you attempt to pretend he was not.  The most oppresive forms of tyranny will manifest from the digital plane, not the physical one, due to the cheaper cost and ease of creating and running those systems as I mentioned above.

Only a complete fool would embrace these digital slave systems over sound money - physical silver and gold.

[Rosewater Foundation]

spirit fingers and jazz hands

done and done

[TERA2]

Here is a flow chart that you can use to predict the analysis of bulls over the next 6 months based on any possible combination of action that could occur over the next 3 months.

[hv_]

Precious metals are no longer a Schelling point because of the technology that governments have now, metals can no longer be moved without being confiscated. Gold and silver are under the control of nation-states, but Bitcoin has jurisdictional arbitrage and can’t be controlled by any partial grouping of nation-states.

Once again you have gotten your facts 100% opposite of what they are in reality.  It's ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE more cost effective to create and run a police state in cyberspace than in the physical world.  So, no, metals are not at risk because nobody can afford to create a police state monitoring what everyone does in the physical plane, but they can easily do so for the digital one.  You're using the govt's own infrastructure in the first place.  Please do not try to pass off such statements that are laughable at face value as facts.  

Shitcoins are the ones at risk due to having no valid Schelling point and ease of govt clamp down, not metals.  If the govt attempts to outlaw silver and gold, they do not cease to exist.  They still exist and have value.  Since shitcoins have no intrinsic use or value, a govt clampdown destroys them.  They're completely worthless.  And yes, Kaczynski was right no matter how much you attempt to pretend he was not.  The most oppresive forms of tyranny will manifest from the digital plane, not the physical one, due to the cheaper cost and ease of creating and running those systems as I mentioned above.

Only a complete fool would embrace these digital slave systems over sound money - physical silver and gold.

Gov are provenly good clampingdown physical ownerships. No chances for any PM here. Shop owners are at risk.

Its harder or impossible to clampdown IP or virtual bearer instruments. Use Bitcoin and brainwallets, how is that stoppable better than PM?

Never.

But very highest goal is to get many into Bitcoin daily use and these ppl will stopp any gov.

[Dunkelheit667]

The monthly update:


Guess we're in despair now. I've had to ignore more members in the last 30 days than in the 330 days before.

[V1lpu]

[B1tUnl0ck3r]

Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion is not the true vision of infofront.

infofront's true vision wouldn't let trolls to hijack this thread so easily. If this shit keeps happening, I'll have no choice but to fork this thread and start it again as it meant to be.

The new W/O thread will be ripped off from any troll protocols (like anonymint, roach, jbeher and other retards) and only infofront's true protocol to be left.

Raise hands now.

P.S: I won't be reverting your past crap. Your past messages (troll or not) will be safe.  I'll copy everything from this topic one by one but (tr00) moderation will be taking place by the page 20781.

you got your sherif star in an happy meal? please... go fork your self.

If you are bored with charts, moonrockets and others total losers who can't understand a market, you can always come and post on this great thread about coding a legal framework for C17H21NO4 in the usa :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4577827.msg41287597#msg41287597

[Rosewater Foundation]

I'm a modern young lady!

You go girl.

[TERA2]

You should plot 2011 on there too

[realr0ach]

Precious metals are no longer a Schelling point because of the technology that governments have now, metals can no longer be moved without being confiscated. Gold and silver are under the control of nation-states, but Bitcoin has jurisdictional arbitrage and can’t be controlled by any partial grouping of nation-states.

Once again you have gotten your facts 100% opposite of what they are in reality.  It's ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE more cost effective to create and run a police state in cyberspace than in the physical world.  So, no, metals are not at risk because nobody can afford to create a police state monitoring what everyone does in the physical plane, but they can easily do so for the digital one.  You're using the govt's own infrastructure in the first place.  Please do not try to pass off such statements that are laughable at face value as facts.  

Shitcoins are the ones at risk due to having no valid Schelling point and ease of govt clamp down, not metals.  If the govt attempts to outlaw silver and gold, they do not cease to exist.  They still exist and have value.  Since shitcoins have no intrinsic use or value, a govt clampdown destroys them.  They're completely worthless.  And yes, Kaczynski was right no matter how much you attempt to pretend he was not.  The most oppresive forms of tyranny will manifest from the digital plane, not the physical one, due to the cheaper cost and ease of creating and running those systems as I mentioned above.

Only a complete fool would embrace these digital slave systems over sound money - physical silver and gold.

Gov are provenly good clampingdown physical ownerships. No chances for any PM here. Shop owners are at risk.

Its harder or impossible to clampdown IP or virtual bearer instruments. Use Bitcoin and brainwallets, how is that stoppable better than PM?

No...they are not.  First of all, nobody on the right or left gives a damn what govt says anymore.  Even back when people respected govt, barely anyone turned in their gold when they tried to confiscate it.  So whether the govt attempted to move against shitcoins or metals, they are unable to do either with voluntary compliance.  They're required to use force in both cases.  The only force they're required to use against shitcoins is knocking on the door of the exchanges, giant mining facilities, or ISPs and filtering out the non-obfuscated traffic.  It takes them barely any effort or force to obliterate shitcoins.  It takes them a WHOLE LOT of effort to physically attack everyone roaming the planet to confiscate their physical metals.

I've talked to numerous people from TBTF bankers to low level celebrities that make up the system.  All of these people with any passing interest in shitcoins know who both Anonymint and I are, and pretty much all of them agree with me, except maybe random people like Ashton Kutcher, that whoever holds physical metals in the future makes the rules, not shitcoins.  So in any argument of r0ach vs Anonymint, it's basically r0ach + the entire rest of the planet vs Anonymint and Ashton Kutcher.  Choose what side you want to be on for the conclusion of this fight.

[Rosewater Foundation]

I've talked to numerous people

Choose what side you want to be on for the conclusion of this fight.

[B1tUnl0ck3r]

No...they are not.  First of all, nobody on the right or left gives a damn what govt says anymore.  Even back when people respected govt, barely anyone turned in their gold when they tried to confiscate it.  So whether the govt attempted to move against shitcoins or metals, they are unable to do either with voluntary compliance.  They're required to use force in both cases.  The only force they're required to use against shitcoins is knocking on the door of the exchanges, giant mining facilities, or ISPs and filtering out the non-obfuscated traffic.  It takes them barely any effort or force to obliterate shitcoins.  It takes them a WHOLE LOT of effort to physically attack everyone roaming the planet to confiscate their physical metals.

I've talked to numerous people from TBTF bankers to low level celebrities that make up the system.  All of these people with any passing interest in shitcoins know who both Anonymint and I are, and pretty much all of them agree with me, except maybe random people like Ashton Kutcher, that whoever holds physical metals in the future makes the rules, not shitcoins.  So in any argument of r0ach vs Anonymint, it's basically r0ach + the entire rest of the planet vs Anonymint and Ashton Kutcher.  Choose what side you want to be on for the conclusion of this fight.

if you mean this kind of metal:



I agree with you... otherwise can you ingest "your metals"? at least you will have to be open up before "giving" it .

I'm a modern young lady!

You go girl.

you should have put this one :



way more appropriate for those who get it .

[bitserve]

You have convinced me.  I need to run the version from November 2010 when Satoshi was still involved. What version was that?  Because that’s obviously the one true Bitcoin.

Sorry guys any transactions after 2010 are invalid. Anyone that says otherwise is just a Core shill.

No, you don't really need to do that.

What you need to do is:

Step 1. Take all your "pure" Bitcoin in legacy addresses and move them to an exchange (make sure to use a Segwit deposit address, this is important)
Step 2. Sell them all (yeah)
Step 3. Save the private key/s of the originating legacy addresses.
Step 4. Try to convince everyone of a future fork in which Segwit will be basically wiped out of existence and only the "TRUE satoshi" practitioners will reign.
Step 5. When the fork happens use your old private keys for instant profit.

Sounds like a plan, uh?

What could go wrong?

P.S.: People shilling (see step 4) for this scenario in which Segwit gets wiped out of existence either are already nocoiners... or don't fully believe in their own words.

[realr0ach]

Now anonymint is cross-posting in another thread with complete fairy tales claiming shitcoins can't be stopped because if anyone tried to stop them, people can just transmit the blockchain by HAM radio!

And your absolutely delusional about the ability of governments to intercept encrypted Internet traffic, or if necessary encrypted HAM radio transmissions.

Seriously...what the hell are you even talking about now?  That wasn't even your idea in the first place.  It was some random guy's post long ago who didn't even make the comment in a serious manner.  It was just a random thought he threw out knowing full well it won't work and is completely unfeasible.  You know someone is extremely desperate and has long lost this argument when they start claiming people are going to transmit blockchains by HAM radio.  What's next?  Shitcoins can't be stopped because those guys at the airport runway holding up those flags can transmit blockchains to each other by sign language?

[B1tUnl0ck3r]

Now anonymint is cross-posting in another thread with complete fairy tales claiming shitcoins can't be stopped because if anyone tried to stop them, people can just transmit the blockchain by HAM radio!

And your absolutely delusional about the ability of governments to intercept encrypted Internet traffic, or if necessary encrypted HAM radio transmissions.

Seriously...what the hell are you even talking about now?  That wasn't even your idea in the first place.  It was some random guy's post long ago who didn't even make the comment in a serious manner.  It was just a random thought he threw out knowing full well it won't work and is completely unfeasible.  You know someone is extremely desperate and has long lost this argument when they start claiming people are going to transmit blockchains by HAM radio.  What's next?  Shitcoins can't be stopped because those guys at the airport runway holding up those flags can transmit blockchains to each other by sign language?

you are so dumb with your metals... you know this :



cost less than 35$...

and was used sucessfully here :

    Hungarian Revolution of 1956[1]
Colombian conflict
Moro Conflict
South African Border War
Indo-Pakistani War of 1965
War of Attrition
Six-Day War
Nigerian Civil War[2]
Yom Kippur War
Ogaden War
Vietnam War
Laotian Civil War
Cambodian Civil War
Cambodian–Vietnamese War
Sino-Vietnamese War
Sri Lankan Civil War
Chadian–Libyan conflict
Afghan Civil War
Afghan-Soviet War
1982 Ethiopian-Somali Border War
First Liberian Civil War
Second Liberian Civil War
First Sudanese Civil War
Second Sudanese Civil War
South Sudanese Civil War
Somali Civil War
Algerian Civil War
Abkhaz–Georgian conflict
Georgian–Ossetian conflict
Georgian Civil War
Tajikistani Civil War
Transnistria War
East Prigorodny Conflict
1991–1992 South Ossetia War
War in Abkhazia (1992–1993)
War in Abkhazia (1998)
First Chechen War
Second Chechen War
War in Afghanistan
Iran–Iraq War
Gulf War
Lebanese Civil War
South Lebanon conflict (1985–2000)
Yugoslav Wars
Croatian War
Bosnian War
Iraq War
First Congo War
Second Congo War
Mexican Drug War
2006 Lebanese War
Russo-Georgian War
Insurgency in the North Caucasus
Northern Mali Conflict
Libyan Civil War
Second Libyan Civil War
Boko Haram insurgency
Syrian Civil War
Iraqi Civil War (2014–present)
Yemeni Civil War (2015–present)
Saudi-led intervention in Yemen (2015–present)
Conflict in Najran, Jizan and Asir

and way more places that can be recorded...

and you believe in your metals? shinny even more? just LoL.

[Torque]

Now I'm convinced that anunymint and realr0ach are just sock puppet accounts of the same person.

Hey look, they're arguing!