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June 28, 2018, 04:02:55 PM |
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If you haven't seen this before it's worth a watch. Andreas explains why Big Blocks are not going to work. (watch time: 5-6mins, Petabyte Blocks & Streaming Money) https://youtu.be/AecPrwqjbGw?t=11m39sSegwit in its current form can't handle hundreds of millions of users either. That was never what it was about. We needed a step up, a year earlier than we got it, and we had a few options to do so. For the current leg, and I repeat myself yet again, why was segwit better than simply doubling the blocksize? Nobody seems willing to explain that bit, for whatever reason.
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June 28, 2018, 04:06:30 PM Merited by BobLawblaw (1) |
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So, really this time, positive things about bcashers.
The old man has finally lost it. Sad
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June 28, 2018, 04:06:54 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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The point is that people who are not shilling anything are being called shills. It's exactly the same process as when lefties call peoples nazis. It doesn't mean anything anymore, beyond "shut up".
The point is that people who come in here criticizing Bitcoin for being somehow broken, or not working as intended, when the exact *opposite* is true, do need to be told to SHUT THE FUCK UP. So, really this time, positive things about bcashers.
Why don't you fuck off if we don't care to answer your fkn forced question that no one asked for or even gives a shit about? BCashers are deluded idiots, sorry.
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June 28, 2018, 04:08:34 PM |
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If you haven't seen this before it's worth a watch. Andreas explains why Big Blocks are not going to work. (watch time: 5-6mins, Petabyte Blocks & Streaming Money) https://youtu.be/AecPrwqjbGw?t=11m39she is talking about how big block sizes would make bitcoin centralized (because he knows how Computing technologie would develop in the next 10 years ofc.) Even if so: LN is by design centralized. So whats that argument even about? I think your assertion that LN is centralized needs proof, Jonald. To the extent LN becomes a distributed network with nodes that handle different amounts of traffic we could arguably move in the direction of less centralization but there are two points worth making. Early days. The protocol can be extended to improve it's distribution. High speed, low fee payments, Improved privacy, cross atomic swaps, deferred settlements, all outweigh the small amount of centralization, imo.
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June 28, 2018, 04:11:10 PM |
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For the current leg, and I repeat myself yet again, why was segwit better than simply doubling the blocksize? Nobody seems willing to explain that bit, for whatever reason.
Answer why doubling the block size is even needed at this point in time. With actual logic and facts to back your argument.
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June 28, 2018, 04:12:11 PM |
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Dude, we've already visited the China/bicycle issue in this thread; been there meme'd that. Try to keep up! I don't really have a need for a surplus bike atm... too bad the bicycles weren't Bitcoin. ...dreaming
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Ibian
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June 28, 2018, 04:12:38 PM |
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The point is that people who are not shilling anything are being called shills. It's exactly the same process as when lefties call peoples nazis. It doesn't mean anything anymore, beyond "shut up".
The point is that people who come in here criticizing Bitcoin for being somehow broken, or not working as intended, when the exact *opposite* is true, do need to be told to SHUT THE FUCK UP. Never said that. I said that bigger blocks would have been a better solution. Can you explain why I'm wrong, with something other than emotional outbursts?
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June 28, 2018, 04:13:50 PM |
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Never said that. I said that bigger blocks would have been a better solution. Can you explain why I'm wrong, with something other than emotional outbursts?
Answer why doubling the block size is even needed at this point in time. With actual logic and facts to back your argument. Or, ya know, stfu.
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June 28, 2018, 04:15:34 PM Last edit: June 28, 2018, 04:26:20 PM by Anon136 |
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Even if so: LN is by design centralized.
This is the big fallacy. Bro, Even if LN is centralized (debatable but it is more centralized in some aspects by necessity) that doesn't make Bitcoin more or less centralized because Lightning Network ISN'T BITCOIN.
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June 28, 2018, 04:16:27 PM |
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For the current leg, and I repeat myself yet again, why was segwit better than simply doubling the blocksize? Nobody seems willing to explain that bit, for whatever reason.
Answer why doubling the block size is even needed at this point in time. With actual logic and facts to back your argument. Stop putting words in my mouth already.
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June 28, 2018, 04:18:21 PM |
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Even if so: LN is by design centralized.
This is the big fallacy. Bro, Lightning Network does't make bitcoin centralized because Lightning Network ISN'T BITCOIN. So it's not bitcoin being moved around?
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June 28, 2018, 04:22:02 PM |
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Even if so: LN is by design centralized.
This is the big fallacy. Bro, Lightning Network does't make bBitcoin centralized because Lightning Network ISN'T BITCOIN. So it's not bitcoin being moved around? Sorry you are right. FTFY
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June 28, 2018, 04:24:39 PM |
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For the current leg, and I repeat myself yet again, why was segwit better than simply doubling the blocksize? Nobody seems willing to explain that bit, for whatever reason.
Answer why doubling the block size is even needed at this point in time. With actual logic and facts to back your argument. Stop putting words in my mouth already. I can't put words in your mouth, because your foot is stuck in there already. Quit trollin'.
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June 28, 2018, 04:25:33 PM |
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Ok. I will learn to steal groceries. Let's do this thing. Are we so poor now? Damn, this is getting ugly too fast. Guys, we don't need to resort to theft; there is food for hodlers: ...and less sodium means less blockchain bloat.
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June 28, 2018, 04:26:14 PM |
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@crandl Rumors circulating that Facebook buying @coinbase for $18BB and investors euphoric after $8.5BB last round. Crypto experts think @RobinhoodApp a much better buy.for $FB . #bitcoin #crypto @zerohedge 5:06 PM - 28 Jun 2018
FAKE NEWS aka 'buy my bags'
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June 28, 2018, 04:28:17 PM |
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I've been reading anonymint's writings for the past week or so, which also prompted me to dive into some other rabbit holes.
I'm more convinced now of the dangers of segwit. Don't mistake that for being a promotion of bcash.
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June 28, 2018, 04:41:16 PM |
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Even if so: LN is by design centralized.
This is the big fallacy. Bro, Lightning Network does't make bBitcoin centralized because Lightning Network ISN'T BITCOIN. So it's not bitcoin being moved around? Sorry you are right. FTFY Is that a yes or no?
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June 28, 2018, 04:42:53 PM |
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I've been reading anonymint's writings for the past week or so, which also prompted me to dive into some other rabbit holes.
I'm more convinced now of the dangers of segwit. Don't mistake that for being a promotion of bcash.
They will.
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June 28, 2018, 05:04:46 PM |
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I've been reading anonymint's writings for the past week or so, which also prompted me to dive into some other rabbit holes.
I'm more convinced now of the dangers of segwit. Don't mistake that for being a promotion of bcash.
Could you provide me with a link where I can read about that? I remember anonymint's post, but I did not pay enough attention and now I can not find it.
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