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Question: Closing BTC Price June 17:
$0 - 4 (3%)
<$6,500 - 7 (5.3%)
$6,500-$6,750 - 1 (0.8%)
$6,751-$7,000 - 2 (1.5%)
$7,001-$7,250 - 3 (2.3%)
$7,251-$7,500 - 6 (4.5%)
$7,501-$7,750 - 4 (3%)
$7,751-$8,000 - 12 (9.1%)
$8,001-$8,250 - 13 (9.8%)
$8,251-$8,500 - 7 (5.3%)
$8,501-$8,750 - 6 (4.5%)
$8,751-$9,000 - 11 (8.3%)
$9,001,$9,250 - 13 (9.8%)
$9,251-$9,500 - 17 (12.9%)
>$9,500 - 17 (12.9%)
$20,000 - 9 (6.8%)
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I find it appropriate that the comparison is between Ethereum, a scammy shitcoin, and overpriced low-quality Apple garbage.

Fitting.  Cool
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September 14, 2018, 12:25:50 AM

Down we go.

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September 14, 2018, 12:42:42 AM

I'll agree BTC is above the 8 day average which for a while I've been watching for an indicator of positive momentum.   However we're also still lodged under 6500 for the moment and need to break the ice of that one to surface higher.
I wouldnt call it rally mode exactly, more of a patient sideways area again.    I guess someone looking on a daily basis might say more but thats where it becomes less speculative and more about events and developments having an effect


I find it appropriate that the comparison is between Ethereum, a scammy shitcoin, and overpriced low-quality Apple garbage.

Fitting.  Cool
Markets doubted Apple for years though.  Its over hyped in price now maybe but relative to the revenue that company brings in it was cheap for years.    They are just reselling other peoples ideas but also I dont doubt they have consumer loyalty to whatever they do.   Apparently people value their usability or style but is that worth a 70% markup I dont know.   But theres been lots of doubts expressed about Apple no doubt.   A good time to be bullish on them was when Mr. Jobs passed away.  Actually its now when he is a far distant influence that it would make more sense to be bearish, as the company is likely to become just another corporate sheep


If we break up but achieve less then the previous peak of 7300 then Im quite bearish medium term, mostly I presume we go sideways
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September 14, 2018, 12:55:05 AM

Mike Novogratz, what a fkn genius Bitcoin oracle this guy is  Roll Eyes

https://unhashed.com/cryptocurrency-news/mike-novogratz-cnbc-bitcoin-bottomed/
Mike Novogratz to CNBC: ‘I Think Bitcoin’s Price has Bottomed’. “I think we’ve pretty much bottomed,” says Novogratz. “I’m not positive we’ve bottomed, but it feels like we have.”
July 23rd: Bitcoin Price $8497

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/13/michael-novogratz-calls-a-bottom-in-cryptocurrencies.html
"I think we put in a low yesterday," Michael Novogratz says in a tweet.
Sept 13th: Bitcoin Price $6458

LOL Roll Eyes  Tongue
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September 14, 2018, 01:34:43 AM

Google's top fraud fighter explains why it's risky to brag about owning bitcoin

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/13/google-email-fraud-fighter-mark-risher-how-hackers-target-you.html

I see Google are offering USB U2F keys: good. I also see Google are offering an account recovery form if you lose them: bad.


Complete with backdoors for all 3-letter US agencies.
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September 14, 2018, 02:47:17 AM

https://twitter.com/BigRekts/status/1040431007248343042

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September 14, 2018, 02:56:18 AM


Oh??  Now we got newbies like you coming into the WO thread and attempting to redefine history in your own pie in the sky wishings and make their own vague dumbass rules?  We need you for that kind of thing, Kylapoiss?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You do understand there is nothing to answer to the shittalk you gave me there?

My alleged shit talk comes within a context of you already having had ignored my substance.  But, you could still respond by attempting to justify how you could come into this thread as a newbie and dictate rules?  How could that be?


If you could express yourself in a polite way,

Polite?  I thought that I was being polite, already?


maybe then, but whenever you don't like something you start to add those "fucks" and insults everywhere.

Fuck can be a way of emphasizing one or more points, and such term should not be considered as a loss of logic or an emotional outburst, as you seem to be arguing... in your seeming distraction that is devolving into ad hominem, again.  Get a grip, Kylapoiss.. you are coming off as too sensitive and unable to get a sense of actual substance and you want to get into irrelevant discussion about personhood, no?

So why discuss when you don't respect your opponents?


You are demanding respect, within an online forum?  Huh?  I thought that I have been pretty courteous to you, so far... but demanding respect might cause the opposite, no?  seems like a kind of sensitivity button that you might have?




I've been here since 2013, the age of my account is not relevant.

Of course, you deserve more respect.  What was I thinking?  silly me. Roll Eyes


Maybe the status is important to you, that shows how small minded you are.

Maybe if you stop getting caught up on your petty feelings, we might make some progress, no?

I look what people say, not how many posts they have or what level they are in.

Oh?  You are studying this VERY important topic regarding how some folks need to get more respect on the internet in order that their feelings don't get hurt.

That seems like an important study that you are doing.

Sky wishings, rules, wtf are you talking about? Cheesy

I don't know.  You don't have a reference for me.


What you doing, Kylapoiss?  Making shit up?  Speak for yourself and your seeming emotional crack and seeming inability to respond to substance rather than resorting to speculative and non-substantiated ad hominem bullshit.

If you have noticed anything about my BTC position from my prior posts would be to understand that I have an ongoing BTC strategy that I frequently share in this thread, and in essence, it should be more than fairly clear and straight forward that my BTC strategy has not been materially side-tracked from our current ongoing BTC price correction, which continues to allow me to buy BTC on the way down.. and still puts me at least 8x profits overall (inspite of a variety of mistakes that I have made along the way) and I have no problem to be able to "cope" even if the BTC price continues to go down.  Anyhow, you seem the one who is having coping struggles, currently.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

What shit I'm making up? I'm just stating what I see, nothing more.

Is what you see relevant to this thread?  And if so, if someone asks you to elaborate, are you able to elaborate and stay on topic?  I hope so.

You are an angry person, no doubt in that, you have a narrow view on things, that's probably why you don't get other peoples opinions.

Now, what am I angry about?  Did you want to provide your opinion about something, special snowflake?  Hopefully, it is related to WO thread in some way, right?


And you talk way too much, overcomplicate things and take everything too seriously, that shows you have little experience in real life.

Are you referring to any particular point that I made, or just overall?  I seem like a real bad meanie, and I don't even like me after reading that description.   Cry Cry
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September 14, 2018, 03:02:56 AM


That's quite a hit! Even with up to 100X leverage the guy must have lost atleast what, 50k BTC? Is that math right?

You guys sure we trust their reported volume? That's a rediculous lot and by the looks of that twitter page it happens often..

If you look at them all most of them are shorts getting squeezed lately, scrolling a little ways..
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September 14, 2018, 03:17:17 AM


That's quite a hit! Even with up to 100X leverage the guy must have lost atleast what, 50k BTC? Is that math right?

You guys sure we trust their reported volume? That's a rediculous lot and by the looks of that twitter page it happens often..

If you look at them all most of them are shorts getting squeezed lately, scrolling a little ways..

No the 5 million number is the amount of USD spent. So at 100x leverage the person lost over 50k worth, so about 8 BTC lost.
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September 14, 2018, 03:23:15 AM


That's quite a hit! Even with up to 100X leverage the guy must have lost atleast what, 50k BTC? Is that math right?

You guys sure we trust their reported volume? That's a rediculous lot and by the looks of that twitter page it happens often..

If you look at them all most of them are shorts getting squeezed lately, scrolling a little ways..

No the 5 million number is the amount of USD lost. So at 100x leverage the person lost over 50k worth, so about 8 BTC lost.

I know they are vol pumped with leverage but yeah that brings it back to reality..

The way they say it, sounds like # of coins @ price ..
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September 14, 2018, 03:32:18 AM
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Is it too obvious to think that everybody who still has BCH is going to dump it & convert to bitcoin which will pump the price of bitcoin?

Or is that stupid because there is likely to be a massive shortage of people wanting to buy BCH? Even the exchanges might de-list it?

i dumped the bulk of my bcash_lol very early on, kept maybe 20% for a while which i have sold off here and there since. i still have a bit left that ive played with trying to capitalize on its occasion PnD . i image many or most in this thread did similar.

most bcash_lol folks seem to be too brainwashed to understand why its not a solution to scaling, i have a feeling many will just ride it into the ground. of course im sure the bcash_lol guys think the same of us Smiley

so yeah i guess the question remains: will those who do bail on bcash_lol dump it for btc?  a random shitcoin? or exit crypto entirely for fiat/pm/whatever?

Maybe should ask our residential Bcash promoter, jbreher?   Wasn't jbreher keeping 50/50, or something like that? 

Nutjob, Peter_R was recommending something similar, until we have not seen as much of Peter_R after some of his spats with faketoshi, but PeterR likely remains a bcash nutter, no?  He can tell us what he is going to do or recommend, anyhow, no?
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September 14, 2018, 04:08:43 AM

Maybe should ask our residential Bcash promoter, jbreher?   Wasn't jbreher keeping 50/50, or something like that? 

Ask me what?

I own many more units of BCH than I do of BTC.

I still see BCH as having a bright future.
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September 14, 2018, 04:13:22 AM

Down we go.



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September 14, 2018, 04:28:54 AM


That's quite a hit! Even with up to 100X leverage the guy must have lost atleast what, 50k BTC? Is that math right?

You guys sure we trust their reported volume? That's a rediculous lot and by the looks of that twitter page it happens often..

If you look at them all most of them are shorts getting squeezed lately, scrolling a little ways..

No the 5 million number is the amount of USD lost. So at 100x leverage the person lost over 50k worth, so about 8 BTC lost.

I know they are vol pumped with leverage but yeah that brings it back to reality..

The way they say it, sounds like # of coins @ price ..

Yes, I'm still confused by it.  Huh Cheesy However, I'm pretty confident that people are not regularly risking 5 digits worth of BTC on that nonsense. I am not even sure that Bitmex will even let someone put that much at risk. Unlike OKEX, who let someone risk so much on a long, that when it was liquidated, all the shorts had to take a cut in their profits.
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September 14, 2018, 04:59:13 AM

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September 14, 2018, 05:05:26 AM

Maybe should ask our residential Bcash promoter, jbreher?   Wasn't jbreher keeping 50/50, or something like that? 

Ask me what?

I own many more units of BCH than I do of BTC.

I still see BCH as having a bright future.


hahahahahaha

I guess that you largely answered the question, because there were some of us peeps who were wondering what bcashers were going to do in order to off-load their bcash in what we had considered likely dire bcash times, and apparently, you are going to continue to HODL your bcash, and maybe even if you view them so positively, then you are employing ladder ACCUMLATL strategies, too... which I, personally, would conclude to be a bad gamble.. but hey, perhaps bcashers have another pump up their sleeves, even though such bcash pumpening is seeming doubtful and long term seems even more doubtful...

And, you did correct me with my rememberance that you had around 50/50 in terms of units, yet your claim of having more bcash is not outside of what bcash bags a possible bcash true believer might have..

If you are NOT making shit up, in terms of your own purported positive views of Bcash, then perhaps, you would be be employing a similar laddering strategy as you do with bitcoin, and that just comes off as quasi-delusional... but the world would be boring if all WO observer participants thought the same, it seems.
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September 14, 2018, 05:38:32 AM
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We should hope that BCH has a long life. The big blockers need their own chain that they can squabble about block size and other things. Let them have their hash wars on their own chain(s).
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September 14, 2018, 06:58:15 AM

Maybe should ask our residential Bcash promoter, jbreher?   Wasn't jbreher keeping 50/50, or something like that? 

Ask me what?

I own many more units of BCH than I do of BTC.

I still see BCH as having a bright future.
Really I wouldn't expect that from you. Bcash was so obviously being propped up by Bitmain, Roger and Craig that I expected nothing to come from it once Bitmain stopped their losses.
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Maybe should ask our residential Bcash promoter, jbreher?   Wasn't jbreher keeping 50/50, or something like that? 

Ask me what?

I own many more units of BCH than I do of BTC.

I still see BCH as having a bright future.

very bright sell some BTC and buy the BCH dip

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September 14, 2018, 09:27:50 AM

Found an interesting article here: https://techcrunch.com/2018/09/13/its-the-end-of-crypto-as-we-know-it-and-i-feel-fine/

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Crypto is falling because the people in it for the short term are leaving. Long term players – the Amazons of the space – have yet to be identified. Ultimately we are going to face a compression in the ICO and, for a while, it’s going to be a lot harder to build an ICO. But give it a few years – once the various financial authorities get around to reading the Satoshi white paper – and you’ll see a sea change. Coverage will change. Services will change. And the way you raise money will change.

I feel the same for most of the author's points. We who are here for the long term shouldn't care for the prices. I've bought some coins and I was planning to cash on some of them on 2019 to buy an ultra wide QHD+ Gsync HDR monitor using BTC instead of dropping 2000$. Bought some XRP as a saving account, planning to save them "forever" in my hardware wallet in case I ever need money for a special need. Bought some ARK which is a delegated proof of stake coin in order to build a slow passive income for the future.

So what if the prices spiked on 2017 and then fell on 2018? If I had 1BTC on 2017, I still have 1BTC on 2018. I'm hoping for a broader integration of cryptocoin payments from shops so as to not have to turn my coins into fiat and instead use them for purchases... so 1BTC will always be 1BTC for me! Grin
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