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Question: Closing BTC Price June 28:
$0 - 5 (3.1%)
<$7,000 - 4 (2.5%)
$7,000-$7,499 - 0 (0%)
$7,500-$7,999 - 0 (0%)
$8,000-$8,499 - 1 (0.6%)
$8,500-$8,999 - 3 (1.8%)
$9,000-$9,499 - 4 (2.5%)
$9,500-$9,999 - 27 (16.6%)
$10,000-$10,499 - 24 (14.7%)
$10,500-10,999 - 12 (7.4%)
$11,000-$11,499 - 14 (8.6%)
$11,500-$12,000 - 15 (9.2%)
>$12,000 - 41 (25.2%)
>$20,000 - 13 (8%)
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April 10, 2019, 11:35:40 AM

bullish feeling for next hours/weekend

Hopefully, I’m feeling really positive about the recent price action. I think anybody predicting that the bottom isn’t in yet is an idiot. There’s so much positivity around at the moment, I see nothing but bullish action for the forseeable future.

Thats true, but with BTC its always something special, during the bearmarket so much positive stuff and still it kept on dumping their.... the news becomes more and more irrelevant for the price action, still I enjoy positive stuff much more as negative Smiley
I like to see the user count keeps increasing over time, that Will be the most important thing of all....
More and more people Will get it and understand it and finally buy it, of-course there or those where it takes more time as with others, so consider us to be lucky ones Wink
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Since you're already active in that area, would you mind answering a few questions regarding seasteading for me? The responses can be however brief since this won't be immediately relevant for quite a number of years to me, but I'd like to sketch out some future options regardless.


Is it plausible to create a small seasteading property on which you could have some sort of outdoor space, or at least indoor garden or small park?

Small is easy. We're selling our DIY seasteads for $45k. This includes just a spar and a 7 meter wide steel plate that you can then customize as you wish.

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Perhaps an inner courtyard type setup with or without a roof that may or may not be opened and closed?

When thinking of seasteading start thinking in terms of boats instead of vast lands. The more open/empty space, the more the price.

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Is it possible to get a per square meter cost estimate (excluding inventory)?

Excluding everything, that barebones DIY will cost you about $108/sqft or $1169/sqm. You may consider that your "land" price. On top of that we build a fully self reliant home with solar electricity and fresh water (which brings the price up considerably).

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How do you go about acquiring "sea" (land/property) for something like this? Surely you can't just set up whatever arbitrarily?

We set up whatever, arbitrarily.

As long as it's over 12nm out we can put our seasteads there. But that comes with big waves which requires engineering to keep you above the waves.

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Is this possible in areas where you don't have to worry about pirates or rely on guns? (I don't have a problem with guns, but I'd prefer it being an option as opposed to a necessity if that makes sense.)
While we do not plan on building off of the coast of Somalia where there are pirates...
A pirate is defined as theft on the sea. If you're trying to find a place in the world where there are no thieves...good luck! Being a long boat ride where everyone can see you coming for miles is probably discouraging to most thieves. Also, us pulling up the ladder is likely better than a gun.


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Fucking IRS.

Got our final numbers from the accountant, and this is the first time, in a long time, that my is bill way higher than Ricks, owing to setting up my early retirement fund by selling off the BTC I did during the dying gasps of the bulls being devoured by the bears in late 2017/early 2018.

Rick suggested he would contribute $x towards my obligations, in exchange for $y Bitcorns. Think I'm going to take him up on the offer to preserve part of my cash stash, and cover my Q1 estimated taxes instead with the leftover liquidity, and put the rest back into a fund, somewhere.

At least this way, Bitcorn stays in the family, and would help towards his retirement plans if we have a couple more months of green dildos.

Also, today marks two weeks of being officially dry. I'm genuinely beginning to enjoy the clarity. feelsgoodman.
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April 10, 2019, 11:53:45 AM

Again...

Whale alert! 🐋 Someone moved 8,092 BTC ($42M) in block 571,018

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/0e47353ce8c09fb4e28c76b5141441e2993003f422fc1ea5e4edfb3090005f57
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April 10, 2019, 11:54:24 AM

Here's my 2 cents: If Bitcoin breaks $5,280 today or tomorrow, then by April 14th we might be in the $5,400–$5,500, otherwise Bitcoin will retreat to $4,800–$4,900 range during the week.
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Fucking IRS.

Got our final numbers from the accountant, and this is the first time, in a long time, that my bill way higher than Ricks, owing to setting up my early retirement fund by selling off the BTC I did during the dying gasps of the bulls being devoured by the bears in late 2017/early 2018.

Rick suggested he would contribute $x towards my obligations, in exchange for $y Bitcorns. Think I'm going to take him up on the offer to preserve part of my cash stash, and cover my Q1 estimated taxes instead with the leftover liquidity, and put the rest back into a fund, somewhere.

At least this way, Bitcorn stays in the family, and would help towards his retirement plans if we have a couple more months of green dildos.

Also, today marks two weeks of being officially dry. I'm genuinely beginning to enjoy the clarity. feelsgoodman.


- yes good, keep the Corn in the fam. and work stuff out.... perfect.

-I do cheer for you to be dry for over 2 weeks, though you should be able to manage the drinking to be occasionally, over dinner evenings or @a Bday etc just skip the 5,6,7 beers a early morning everyday and you should be fine. Just don't forget to give yourself something from day to day as a reward ( like sometimes a fine wine over dinner, or a glass of bubbles to celebrate some dildo's etc)

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SIDEWAYS we go!



watching a bit forward in time...

Gyrsur posting 10 of those gold bars equals 12.5-20ish  BTC Smiley
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Maybe you can have 2 or 3 seastead apart from the set of owners, just to rent.
On a platform like airbnb, it may be another form of profitable, probably always have reservations.

I just had a group come out here last week to visit the seastead. One of them wants to do exactly that.

He wants to set up a SeaBnB on a few of these and get about 10 people to go in on one to split the cost/profit. He's figuring a 65% occupancy rate over 3 years pays for itself.

The configuration would be just a bed and bathroom instead of the standard which comes with a kitchen.

We also have a big investor that wants to set up an underwater restaurant. People visiting the restaurant will want a place to stay the night. We're figuring a capacity of 40 high end customers.

Maybe I am completely wrong, but that looks like a great idea. I see way bigger target on people looking for temporary / adventure experience than people permanently living on it. And additional services/experiences like that underwater restaurant also seem like a great enhancement in that path.

There's many people in the world with pockets full of money looking for new experiences and able to pay whatever for it than those same people leaving their mansions to permanently live in a confined space in the middle of the sea. Not to mention the amount of youtubers/bloggers that could find that a great experience (for a brief period of time) to fully document on their social networks. Add to that the "pioneering" aspect of it and you have a great marketing proposal.

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Since you're already active in that area, would you mind answering a few questions regarding seasteading for me? The responses can be however brief since this won't be immediately relevant for quite a number of years to me, but I'd like to sketch out some future options regardless.


Is it plausible to create a small seasteading property on which you could have some sort of outdoor space, or at least indoor garden or small park?

Small is easy. We're selling our DIY seasteads for $45k. This includes just a spar and a 7 meter wide steel plate that you can then customize as you wish.

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Perhaps an inner courtyard type setup with or without a roof that may or may not be opened and closed?

When thinking of seasteading start thinking in terms of boats instead of vast lands. The more open/empty space, the more the price.

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Is it possible to get a per square meter cost estimate (excluding inventory)?

Excluding everything, that barebones DIY will cost you about $108/sqft or $1169/sqm. You may consider that your "land" price. On top of that we build a fully self reliant home with solar electricity and fresh water (which brings the price up considerably).

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How do you go about acquiring "sea" (land/property) for something like this? Surely you can't just set up whatever arbitrarily?

We set up whatever, arbitrarily.

As long as it's over 12nm out we can put our seasteads there. But that comes with big waves which requires engineering to keep you above the waves.

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Is this possible in areas where you don't have to worry about pirates or rely on guns? (I don't have a problem with guns, but I'd prefer it being an option as opposed to a necessity if that makes sense.)
While we do not plan on building off of the coast of Somalia where there are pirates...
A pirate is defined as theft on the sea. If you're trying to find a place in the world where there are no thieves...good luck! Being a long boat ride where everyone can see you coming for miles is probably discouraging to most thieves. Also, us pulling up the ladder is likely better than a gun.

At least we're not robbed at least 30% of our salaries every paycheck living on the ocean.


Thanks a lot for the response. Suppose one was eyeing some 100sqm of space, would ~$2.5m be sufficient plus additional expenses for vanity furniture and inventory?

How hard would it be for someone to mess with you if you pull up the ladder? I had not considered that even entering could be prohibitive for someone already in your waters.

Are you running any aquaponics for veggies, herbs and fish?


I'm pretty lazy when it comes to leaving my quarters, so the general idea would be having enough "property" around to keep me entertained within my living space hence the perhaps odd questions.


Also, as many others already noted, the SeaBnB idea is fantastic, especially with the underwater restaurant. I'll certainly come visit one day.


Fucking IRS.

Got our final numbers from the accountant, and this is the first time, in a long time, that my is bill way higher than Ricks, owing to setting up my early retirement fund by selling off the BTC I did during the dying gasps of the bulls being devoured by the bears in late 2017/early 2018.

Rick suggested he would contribute $x towards my obligations, in exchange for $y Bitcorns. Think I'm going to take him up on the offer to preserve part of my cash stash, and cover my Q1 estimated taxes instead with the leftover liquidity, and put the rest back into a fund, somewhere.

At least this way, Bitcorn stays in the family, and would help towards his retirement plans if we have a couple more months of green dildos.

Also, today marks two weeks of being officially dry. I'm genuinely beginning to enjoy the clarity. feelsgoodman.

Dry breaks for both liquor and herb are quite nice from time to time indeed. It's pretty strange how you don't even really notice how much your mental space differs until you do take a break.
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April 10, 2019, 12:11:59 PM

SIDEWAYS we go!



watching a bit forward in time...

Gyrsur posting 10 of those gold bars equals 12.5-20ish  BTC Smiley

That's the precise moment I am waiting for to buy a 1KG bar for around 1 BTC.
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I wouldn’t mimd some physical gold, think it’d be pretty cool to own some. Not buying any until bitcoin is worth a hell of a lot more though.
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April 10, 2019, 12:18:26 PM

livestream of breakthrough discovery in astronomy starts in 40 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr20f19czeE

spoiler: first image of a black hole
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I wouldn’t mimd some physical gold, think it’d be pretty cool to own some. Not buying any until bitcoin is worth a hell of a lot more though.

That's what r0ach never understood. It is not that we are against Gold as another type of somewhat valuable asset, it is just that we consider it is still way overvalued in comparison to Bitcoin.

Maybe some day we will end up having even more gold than him just for the sake of it. Poor soul.
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SIDEWAYS we go!



watching a bit forward in time...

Gyrsur posting 10 of those gold bars equals 12.5-20ish  BTC Smiley

That's the precise moment I am waiting for to buy a 1KG bar for around 1 BTC.
If it wasn't so easy to steal I'd get myself one at that point for shits and giggles and use it as furniture.
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SIDEWAYS we go!



watching a bit forward in time...

Gyrsur posting 10 of those gold bars equals 12.5-20ish  BTC Smiley

That's the precise moment I am waiting for to buy a 1KG bar for around 1 BTC.
If it wasn't so easy to steal I'd get myself one at that point for shits and giggles and use it as furniture.

1BTC for 1KG bar. That's my price and my limit (max amount of gold I would hodl/bury). I think it is ok for giggles no matter what.

No way I would ever be buying more than a 1 KG bar just for "historical" reasons. Fuck that 400oz bar.

We are "only" around 10x away from that moment. I have seen Bitcoin do crazier things than that.
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April 10, 2019, 12:32:18 PM

Dry breaks for both liquor and herb are quite nice from time to time indeed.

The Herb is a gift from Jah that helps me feel more in tune with life and relaxed. It inspires me to do creative things, and being more calm, reasonable, and introspective, while enduring the human condition, on a daily basis.

Alcohol, on the other hand, just shuts me down, and destroys any ability to work at anything resembling peak-efficiency.

The Herb has been a part of my life for longer than I care to admit. I've considered donating my body to science upon my passing, as a case study for chronic herb use, but Rick has some reservations.

I would rather eliminate all other vices from my life, than part with The Herb.

The Herb is life.

EDIT: Looks like a play for $5,300 is in the making.
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April 10, 2019, 12:46:13 PM

Here's my 2 cents: If Bitcoin breaks $5,280 today or tomorrow, then by April 14th we might be in the $5,400–$5,500, otherwise Bitcoin will retreat to $4,800–$4,900 range during the week.

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April 10, 2019, 12:50:31 PM

I wouldn’t mimd some physical gold, think it’d be pretty cool to own some. Not buying any until bitcoin is worth a hell of a lot more though.

Yeah... just not that 400 oz monster...
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Also, today marks two weeks of being officially dry. I'm genuinely beginning to enjoy the clarity. feelsgoodman.

congrats man!

i dont drink (maybe one or two on special occasions, so maybe 5 drinks a year). simply because i dont like the buzz drinking gives or id be an alky for sure.

but been addicted to other stuff. one substance to the point of almost losing everything. nasty time but a good life lesson on humility and what lack of willpower can do if you let it.
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Also, today marks two weeks of being officially dry. I'm genuinely beginning to enjoy the clarity. feelsgoodman.

congrats man!

i dont drink (maybe one or two on special occasions, so maybe 5 drinks a year). simply because i dont like the buzz drinking gives or id be an alky for sure.

but been addicted to other stuff. one substance to the point of almost losing everything. nasty time but a good life lesson on humility and what lack of willpower can do if you let it.

It seems different people have different tolerance levels to alcohol, and some do just fine to drink regularly all their life.

For me, something changed from my younger years to my older years.

When I was young, I could drink regularly and be a "happy drunk", a buzz would lift my mood and spirit. Would routinely go to "happy hour" after work with friends and colleagues. It was all in good fun.

Then something changed mid-life; a few bad things happened to me, and then I spent a year drowning my sorrows in alcohol. But I noticed that drinking actually had the opposite effect on me than it did when I was younger. It just made me feel more depressed and down. I lost motivation to do things I always loved doing, and I also started to worry about my health and developing alcoholism.

So after that really bad year, I stopped drinking cold turkey for seven months straight. My depression went away completely, mood improved, health improved, and mental clarity got much better. Lost weight. Now I only drink on the rare occasion about once a month, maybe one beer or glass of wine and I'm done with it. It's not a forced thing either, I just don't think about it that much any more.
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