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Question: Closing BTC Price June 28:
$0 - 5 (3.2%)
<$7,000 - 4 (2.5%)
$7,000-$7,499 - 0 (0%)
$7,500-$7,999 - 0 (0%)
$8,000-$8,499 - 1 (0.6%)
$8,500-$8,999 - 3 (1.9%)
$9,000-$9,499 - 4 (2.5%)
$9,500-$9,999 - 27 (17.1%)
$10,000-$10,499 - 24 (15.2%)
$10,500-10,999 - 12 (7.6%)
$11,000-$11,499 - 14 (8.9%)
$11,500-$12,000 - 15 (9.5%)
>$12,000 - 36 (22.8%)
>$20,000 - 13 (8.2%)
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April 12, 2019, 05:12:28 PM
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i will never own an alexa/google/amazon voice activated device, unless there is an actual physical switch to cut the mics out of circuit.

i didnt really understand fully the ramification till the other day when i was going over with my wife  how to recover my btc stack in case of my death. i was going to tell her the passphrase to my trezor (it would be written down also, this was just for discussion). but when i was going to tell the the passphrase i stopped. because while i dont own an alexa/google/amazon device, i do have a smartphone and smart watch, which have mics of course.

so here i am in my own house, wondering if anything i say might go out to servers that humans can access (humans review random snips of voice data).

wtf, my own home, which i have spent considerable time and money hardening both physical and electronic networks, is useless if the closed source algo that trigger sending data for no fully understood reason by the end user.

btw many modern tvs have mics and web cams built in now. and IoT stuff like security cameras, some of which have mics so you can use then for intercoms, are notoriously bad at security and most will never get updates.

so much the attach surfaces are pretty big.

now i dont assume my phone and watch and compromised, but with the amount of money i have in btc it would be foolish to at least consider these scenarios,

like any smartphone or laptop with a built in mic is powered off and put in another room when setting up wallet seed words. paranoia? sure but it is based on failings of the current tech used.

- You don't need to stop using your potentially exploitable devices if you use them right. Ie: I have cameras all over my places, the perimeter ones I don't really care and assume someone could be watching (even if I have taken all the measures to stop that), the inside home ones are only turned when there's noone inside... again I don't care if someone would be watching/listening (when we are not there).

- Don't think only potentially "spy" devices could be an attack vector. You said you were discussing key recovery with your wife... good thing you didn't say the passphrase but not because of your smartphone an/or smart watch.... more traditional eavesdropping methods like a laser beam mic could be employed against you. Always try to consider all potential attack vectors, and pay special attention to traditional ones as thats where the easiest exploit usually comes.

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April 12, 2019, 05:15:06 PM

The safest solution is to say nothing to your wife.
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April 12, 2019, 05:20:40 PM

I'm pretty psyched I definitely figured we be somewhere in the 4s by now.
4s, 5s or even 3s actually do not matter if we are in the long hodl mood. But it feels good when the price is up.

It matters. Stress is a killer.
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April 12, 2019, 05:45:02 PM

Dickhead Craig is paying to dox hodlnaught(?) Saying he's going to sue him for libel for saying he isn't Satoshi. People are sick of his shit.

Hodlonaut is a twitter guy who keeps making fun of Faketoshi. Idiot Craig wants to sue him and has offered $5000 (in BSV lol) to whoever can reveal his identity.
As a result, Hodlonaut has deleted his twitter account and gone under the radar. Many people in the industry are supporting him.

I personally have no issue with exchanges delisting BSV, maybe people will dump it for BTC.
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April 12, 2019, 05:45:59 PM


Brother Gandalf stepping in to protect $5,000 so the evil Bearrog doesn't eat it. "You ain't gonna pass $5,000 again, you evil ass-cracker !"
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April 12, 2019, 05:47:38 PM

Dickhead Craig is paying to dox hodlnaught(?) Saying he's going to sue him for libel for saying he isn't Satoshi. People are sick of his shit.

Hodlonaut is a twitter guy who keeps making fun of Faketoshi. Idiot Craig wants to sue him and has offered $5000 (in BSV lol) to whoever can reveal his identity.
As a result, Hodlonaut has deleted his twitter account and gone under the radar. Many people in the industry are supporting him.



$5000 for doxing a guy? What kind of ridiculous offer is that? I thought CSW had access to "some" money (even if it is calvin's).
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April 12, 2019, 05:51:02 PM

Dickhead Craig is paying to dox hodlnaught(?) Saying he's going to sue him for libel for saying he isn't Satoshi. People are sick of his shit.

Hodlonaut is a twitter guy who keeps making fun of Faketoshi. Idiot Craig wants to sue him and has offered $5000 (in BSV lol) to whoever can reveal his identity.
As a result, Hodlonaut has deleted his twitter account and gone under the radar. Many people in the industry are supporting him.



$5000 for doxing a guy? What kind of ridiculous offer is that? I thought CSW had access to "some" money (even if it is calvin's).
LOL
Did he escrow the coins?

By the way, anyone please tell him that instead of BSV shit, offer in BTC. May be he will find some interested people LAMO
Who cares for shitcoins.
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The safest solution is to say nothing to your wife.

Truth !!!!!

No, I'm not bitter at all.......     Undecided

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April 12, 2019, 06:04:19 PM

Dickhead Craig is paying to dox hodlnaught(?) Saying he's going to sue him for libel for saying he isn't Satoshi. People are sick of his shit.

Hodlonaut is a twitter guy who keeps making fun of Faketoshi. Idiot Craig wants to sue him and has offered $5000 (in BSV lol) to whoever can reveal his identity.
As a result, Hodlonaut has deleted his twitter account and gone under the radar. Many people in the industry are supporting him.



$5000 for doxing a guy? What kind of ridiculous offer is that? I thought CSW had access to "some" money (even if it is calvin's).
LOL
Did he escrow the coins?

By the way, anyone please tell him that instead of BSV shit, offer in BTC. May be he will find some interested people LAMO
Who cares for shitcoins.
it's really shitty, I'm happy it's going to cost him by bsv getting delisted on a few exchanges dropping the price and hurting his stash.
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April 12, 2019, 06:07:54 PM

The safest solution is to say nothing to your wife.

This is a solution that is used in all walks of life with your gf/wife.

I’ve been doing it for 11 years Wink
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April 12, 2019, 06:10:59 PM

Congrats WO’s we’ve reached another mathematical consecutive page order milestone! 23,456
Next consecutive page order will be 34,567 in 11,111 pages from now or 222,220 posts. At the current rate this will come 3.5- 4 years from now.   Will we make it to 34567 before bitcoin?  CCMF!

Since you put it that way... Yeah. .. seems like page parity coming soon.tm

At least, page parity would seem to be coming within a halvening time-frame... and another question will be whether the page parity, and supra page parity will be sustainable.

Was't the last page parity in the 19k arena, and supra page parity ONLY lasted for a day, or perhaps less.
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My new Wallet !!!  Wink

It may be that many who read WO, have never seen it.

Floppy disk > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floppy_disk
Better keep that thing well away from any magnets

You want a magnet-proof wallet?



Oops. I'm showing my age again.

 Problem there is you drop that box and you're screwed!
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April 12, 2019, 06:22:43 PM

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That is unkind Jay. We have no reason to think Bob is anyone other than exactly who he says he is.

Not to mention.. I could care less if he's a sweet transvestite from Transylvania or a purple people eater from Alpha Centuri ..  I just enjoy reading what he has to say ....  

Sooooo sick of everyone getting pigeonholed based on how much melanin they have in their skin, or who they're attracted to..  

Get the fuck out of here.  He pigeonholed himself on purpose and repeatedly identifying in ways that he wants to emphasize.  As far as we really know, he could be a cat.

Ok.. enough soapbox for the day...  

Good.

Yeah, that was prolly an overreaction, but some twat cut me off in traffic this morning leaving me in a foul mood...  the above rant was actually rather cathartic Smiley

Another one admits to getting up on the wrong side of the bed.


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April 12, 2019, 06:25:00 PM

I'm pretty psyched I definitely figured we be somewhere in the 4s by now.
4s, 5s or even 3s actually do not matter if we are in the long hodl mood. But it feels good when the price is up.

For me, 5s feel better than 4s and 4s fees better than 3s.  Maybe it is just me?   Undecided Embarrassed
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April 12, 2019, 06:26:10 PM

I'm pretty psyched I definitely figured we be somewhere in the 4s by now.
4s, 5s or even 3s actually do not matter if we are in the long hodl mood. But it feels good when the price is up.

For me, 5s feel better than 4s and 4s fees better than 3s.  Maybe it is just me?   Undecided Embarrassed

6s feel better than 5s
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So many people are targeting Julian and calling him a Russian puppet. It's fucking pathetic how easily the media can turn views.

It is also ironic for any media to be attacking Julian because there is a slippery slope in regards to supporting a prosecuting of him and thereafter opening the door for other press to be more easily prosecuted.

The "press" wants to consider themselves in a different category than Julian, but it is merely a matter of degree rather than kind and even then, perhaps the degree of supposed difference between mainstream press and Julian is not as great as they are wanting to make it out to be.
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O.k.  Delist bcash SV would also suggest delisting bcash ABC... .. so again seems to be a matter of degree here rather than kind ... and is there something specific about bcash SV's attempt to present itself as the real bitcoin that differs from bcash ABC? 

Two sides of the same coin, right? 

And where do you stop with this kind of delisting coordination attempts... that would thereafter justify delisting a lot of other scam/shitcoins that are proclaiming to be something that they are not.   Then only bitcoin is left... That is not going to happen.. exchanges are way too far down the road of involving themselves in a variety of shit listings to make money (or to make BTC, perhaps).
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O.k.  Delist bcash SV would also suggest delisting bcash ABC... .. so again seems to be a matter of degree here rather than kind ... and is there something specific about bcash SV's attempt to present itself as the real bitcoin that differs from bcash ABC?  

Two sides of the same coin, right?  

And where do you stop with this kind of delisting coordination attempts... that would thereafter justify delisting a lot of other scam/shitcoins that are proclaiming to be something that they are not.   Then only bitcoin is left... That is not going to happen.. exchanges are way too far down the road of involving themselves in a variety of shit listings to make money (or to make BTC, perhaps).

     What makes BSV distinctive is that it is the creation of Craig Wright. BCH ABC is mainly backed by Bitmain. Although Bitmain is not the most loved company, at least Jihan Wu (Is he still part of the company? I'm a bit behind on this.) never claimed to be satoshi. BCH ABC is also backed by Roger Ver, and although many would agree that he is a complete asshole, he's an OK guy compared to faketoshi.
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April 12, 2019, 06:51:43 PM

I'm pretty psyched I definitely figured we be somewhere in the 4s by now.
4s, 5s or even 3s actually do not matter if we are in the long hodl mood. But it feels good when the price is up.

For me, 5s feel better than 4s and 4s fees better than 3s.  Maybe it is just me?   Undecided Embarrassed

6s feel better than 5s

Hadn't thought of that one....  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

It's been so long.  It's been so long.   Cry
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April 12, 2019, 06:53:21 PM

The movie is already available for download (in good quality). I'll let you look for it on the web since I'm not sure we're allowed to post torrent links or direct download links.

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