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April 16, 2019, 08:06:44 AM

Either Ayre knows something we don't, got conned, or he's preparing to break ties with CSW.



"This industry needs to grow up and Craig proving he is Satoshi is the only way past this Troll attack that is so bad for the industries reputation. He now has a duty to set the record straight for us all. The Trolls all know he is Satoshi hence the fear."

https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1117706922415853569

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April 16, 2019, 08:07:53 AM

Either Ayre knows something we don't, got conned, or he's preparing to break ties with CSW.



"This industry needs to grow up and Craig proving he is Satoshi is the only way past this Troll attack that is so bad for the industries reputation. He now has a duty to set the record straight for us all. The Trolls all know he is Satoshi hence the fear."

https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1117706922415853569

Bluff, nothing more.
Or he's been fooled by CSW.
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April 16, 2019, 08:17:45 AM
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I am not sure I understand the goals of libertarians. If they want to build their own country, they have to be able to defend it.  

A small group of 40 - 50 heavily armed people will never do. A decent defense force means a large population and a taxation systems to support it. Gathering a large population is easy, you simply need to gather the world’s refugees and offer them something better.  You might even gain the support of Western governments if you promise to take their unwanted refugee claimants. Israel was invented to house Jewish refugees and the model is replicable.

But all you have done is recreate the existing state system, with taxes. And that doesn’t seem to be the point.


I think their utopistic point is that in a libertarian world, organisations would adopt sound money (say, BTC) instead of FIAT Money (money that can be printed at will to finance any implausible war a government would want to fight), every nation-scale war would be simply too dear to finance, hence the necessity of every national scale defense would be unnecessary.

F. A. Hayek once said: I do not think it is an exaggeration to say history is largely a history of inflation, usually inflations engineered by governments for the gain of governments.

Another important point is the fundamental difference regarding the approach. In the current system the approach is TOP DOWN: you have to pay taxes because the government decided you have to. In the second system you have to pay the “fees” because you exercise the option to join that particular community. The outcome of paying might be similar, but the underlying logic is totally different.
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April 16, 2019, 08:39:33 AM

I think Ayre is trying to break ties with CSW. If he keeps calling CSW Satoshi as if it was fact and CSW then loses in court Ayre can then claim that he got conned and walk away unscathed.
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April 16, 2019, 08:42:13 AM

Either Ayre knows something we don't, got conned, or he's preparing to break ties with CSW.



"This industry needs to grow up and Craig proving he is Satoshi is the only way past this Troll attack that is so bad for the industries reputation. He now has a duty to set the record straight for us all. The Trolls all know he is Satoshi hence the fear."

https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1117706922415853569

I don't think the Court politics will work here anyway!

Bitcoin does not work with it, rather it is works upon a decentriziled way and every Bitcoin follower and user knows that its just another big troll. Many people have claimed in past about them being the real Satoshi and have the same vision but this could never be proved even if some legal laws are applied to it.

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April 16, 2019, 08:44:30 AM

I hope all governments in the Indian subcontinent will follow the same if some sense prevails into their mind, especially my home country. Without any legit regulation

India is suffering from Brain drain because the good amount of the crypto enthusiastic moving out from the Country. Zebpay is a big example.

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France will push for the European Union to adopt a regulatory framework on cryptocurrencies similar to the one it brought in last week at a national level, becoming the first major country to do so, French Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire said on Monday.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-france-cryptocurrencies/france-to-ask-eu-partners-to-adopt-its-cryptocurrency-regulation-idUKKCN1RR1Y0
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Satoshi is a very popular and talented person in this world she/he is a created a new world cryptocurrency and kick out the bank system, Everyone is hesitant  Wink

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April 16, 2019, 08:50:37 AM

I hope all governments in the Indian subcontinent will follow the same if some sense prevails into their mind, especially my home country. Without any legit regulation

India is suffering from Brain drain because the good amount of the crypto enthusiastic moving out from the Country. Zebpay is a big example.

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France will push for the European Union to adopt a regulatory framework on cryptocurrencies similar to the one it brought in last week at a national level, becoming the first major country to do so, French Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire said on Monday.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-france-cryptocurrencies/france-to-ask-eu-partners-to-adopt-its-cryptocurrency-regulation-idUKKCN1RR1Y0

Did you noticed how many times "tax", "taxes" ,"taxation" or "control" is repeated throughout the article?
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April 16, 2019, 09:00:35 AM

I hope all governments in the Indian subcontinent will follow the same if some sense prevails into their mind, especially my home country. Without any legit regulation

India is suffering from Brain drain because the good amount of the crypto enthusiastic moving out from the Country. Zebpay is a big example.

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France will push for the European Union to adopt a regulatory framework on cryptocurrencies similar to the one it brought in last week at a national level, becoming the first major country to do so, French Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire said on Monday.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-france-cryptocurrencies/france-to-ask-eu-partners-to-adopt-its-cryptocurrency-regulation-idUKKCN1RR1Y0

Did you noticed how many times "tax", "taxes" ,"taxation" or "control" is repeated throughout the article?

Yeah, its no brainer anyways if stuff gets regulated then the tax would be there and I don't see any wrong in this because I personally don't mind giving taxes on my

profit, already submitted my tax one time "without much regulation in my home country" and would love to pay again if complete regulation comes in play.
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April 16, 2019, 09:04:30 AM

Good to see this notification today morning!



Good effort by a reputed person like CZ in helping community to avoid scam project investments. Kudos to Binance and CZ.

it is a development and volume problem binance don't want low movement token/coin this listed in binance, binance want huge volume huge movement token/coin, i thing this token team do not contact regularly binance support or inactive token team.

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At Binance, we periodically review each digital asset we list to ensure that it continues to meet the high level of standard we expect. When a coin or token no longer meets this standard, or the industry changes, we conduct a more in-depth review and potentially delist it. We believe this best protects all of our users.

When we conduct these reviews, we consider a variety of factors. Here are some that drive whether we decide to delist a digital asset:


Commitment of team to project
Level and quality of development activity
Network / smart contract stability
Level of public communication
Responsiveness to our periodic due diligence requests
Evidence of unethical / fraudulent conduct
Contribution to a healthy and sustainable crypto ecosystem


Based on our most recent reviews, we have decided to delist and cease trading on all trading pairs for the following coin on 2019/04/22 at 10:00 AM UTC:
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April 16, 2019, 09:06:58 AM

Good morning WO's

BTC still among us and over 5K will we be able to stay above 5K for a whole year, that would be awesome Smiley

also I do enjoy your guys support very much on my merit source application Smiley

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5132225.msg50619911#msg50619911

I also have had the best of help to get my TEXT in order of one MEMBER of this thread (guess you guys noticed the fine English writing is not straight of my hand)


For those that didn't saw it yet, please leave a comment or take a look @ it and always speak your mind even if its negative... Just be honest with and THX for so far already.
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Left a honest comment because i don't want to hear you everytime IOY Cheesy
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April 16, 2019, 09:38:02 AM

it is a development and volume problem binance don't want low movement token/coin this listed in binance, binance want huge volume huge movement token/coin, i thing this token team do not contact regularly binance support or inactive token team.

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This is just an official reason they gave, but anyone who was following the previous trend's behind the BitcoinSV should know the real reason behind its delistment which is it claiming itself as Satoshi's real vision which is not true. Also Craig Wright claiming himself to be real Satoshi was putting lot of damage in the community.

https://mobile.twitter.com/cz_binance/status/1116563034476957699


It should be delisted from more exchanges in future as most of the claims on the social media follows.
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April 16, 2019, 10:03:14 AM

Good Morning !

Hi WO,s

This is the presentation format of the monthly statistics, it will be published on the last day of the month.

What data can we see?

- Replies Total of accumulated responses.
- Replies per Month.
- Total views per Month, the F5 key is onfire in the WO thread. Shocked
- Number of Pages per Month.
- Bitcoin price of the last day of the month.
- Percent of the price of Bitcoin closed on the last day of the month.
- Nº of Hats, if xhomerx10 sends me the number of hats they will also be part of the statistics.
- In the lower part the number of post and users deleted by the moderator.

I preferred to make a simple design with the necessary data to quickly evaluate the differences of each month and not a statistic with the typical accounting aspect, full of columns and partial with so many percent, I think a little color and some icons make the presentation more fun.

Added a bar graph of +/- Replies / $ BTC

I hope you like it.

The historical as a comment will be inserted in a quote, have a little patience, the history is more complicated to make.

(I am sorry for the English, in long texts I support myself with the translator and maybe there is some error in the publication.)



The monthly statistics will look like this, maybe with some change.

 

Very cool stuff, also to take the price and HATs into the stats Wink

Now are the HATs gonna be the ones that are created or each members first HAT, cause I keep a list of first HAT from all the members (but not the updated or renewed  HATs)....
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg50527660#msg50527660
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https://twitter.com/Cointelegraph/status/1118089388066529281
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April 16, 2019, 10:12:09 AM



Smiley Cheesy



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April 16, 2019, 10:31:21 AM



Smiley Cheesy



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Bitcoin SV the top one news at this time. Wink

ShapeShift to Delist Bitcoin SV, Kraken Considers Following Suit

https://cointelegraph.com/news/shapeshift-to-delist-bitcoin-sv-kraken-considers-following-suit



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Either Ayre knows something we don't, got conned, or he's preparing to break ties with CSW.



"This industry needs to grow up and Craig proving he is Satoshi is the only way past this Troll attack that is so bad for the industries reputation. He now has a duty to set the record straight for us all. The Trolls all know he is Satoshi hence the fear."

https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1117706922415853569

Here is my take on what this tweet tells us and also about Calvin's relationship/partnership with Craig right now.

1. Calvin really believes Craig is Satoshi, but he is not 100 percent sure bc of course he knows Craig pulled out of the proof he promised.

2. Calvin is heavily invested in Bitcoin ShitVersion and its success so he has pushed aside any doubts about Craig being Satoshi for the sake of his ambitions and financial interests. Its always easiest to believe something is true if its what you want to be true.

3. Calvin has a lot of leverage with Craig because he is the money man in their endeavors. He has the real power in the relationship.

4. This tweet marks a huge turning point in their relationship.

5. Due to the immensely bad financial consequences of SV tanking over the delistings Craig's ego driven lawsuits cause, Calvin now is calling Craig out to come through with the cryptographic proof he promised. Thats why he calls it a duty now to set the record straight for "us all".

The tweet subtext is simply - "Im your fucking boss Craig and you cost me a shit ton of money so now I demand you stop the bleeding and prove to me and everyone else that you are Satoshi so SV can get be legitimized in the eyes of the crypto world and my heavy bags wont become worthless after a few more delistings.!"


We all know that Craig cant provide the cryptographic proof and doesnt have a million coins so this is the beginning of the end of the Craig and Calvin bromance. I predict soon they will be enemies, Calvin will defang Craig by defunding him, and of course Craig will lash out on Calvin like he does everyone else eventually. Craig is legit insane and its time someone opens up an investigation into his possible involvement of Dave Kleinman's untimely and early death bc I wouldnt put it past Craig to kill a friend(he may have actually killed Satoshi) for some private keys.



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April 16, 2019, 10:43:50 AM

This is the presentation format of the monthly statistics, it will be published on the last day of the month.

https://i.imgur.com/5lSssID.png

NICE. i like it.
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