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[Kylapoiss]

I hope we can eventually get rid of this whole countries and borders nonsense. The internet is a good start and hopefully future space-based internet providers will eventually put an end to surface based internet filtering. And of course a global and distributed currency.

Well that’s what the EU is trying to do - get rid of borders. Of course the English want to put up more borders but never mind musn’t grumble

The EU is just shifting the problem to the edge of the EU instead of trying to make borders less relevant.

Please explain, do you mean the refugee problem?

Nevertheless borderless Europe is pretty fcking convenient, especially for someone who travels a lot. Just drive/travel from country to country without any hassle. Shengen area is a blessing.

[Biodom]

@hueristic I hope your watching this game, just amazing 4 goals in 10 minutes WTF ??

Five in 21 min !!
I hope that it would end here and "robots" are eliminated.

[El duderino_]

@hueristic I hope your watching this game, just amazing 4 goals in 10 minutes WTF ??

Five in 21 min !!
I hope that it would end here and "robots" are eliminated.

Its just that Debruyne never underestimate Belgian injections

[StartupAnalyst]

[~snip]I mean Elwar and his wife should go to a major Western country and not go to a smaller Asian country. They should honestly just to back the US.

Have you heard from Elwar ? Did they get to the embassy?

We'll prolly know soon enough. In other note, why the heck the government intervened in the first place? Is seasteading seen as a danger or smth?

I think the government hasn't decided how it feels about seasteading yet. It's a little bit like the government's hesitation about BTC.

[pönde]

I hope we can eventually get rid of this whole countries and borders nonsense. The internet is a good start and hopefully future space-based internet providers will eventually put an end to surface based internet filtering. And of course a global and distributed currency.

Well that’s what the EU is trying to do - get rid of borders. Of course the English want to put up more borders but never mind musn’t grumble

The EU is just shifting the problem to the edge of the EU instead of trying to make borders less relevant.

Please explain, do you mean the refugee problem?

Nevertheless borderless Europe is pretty fcking convenient, especially for someone who travels a lot. Just drive/travel from country to country without any hassle. Shengen area is a blessing.

When there is no border control on the borders, there will border control on the doors of shopping malls, schools, train stations, restaurants, hospitals, roads, highways and so on. And still people will get robbed, raped and killed for the sake of border-less travelling and free movement. So at the end the 20 minutes border control on the borders is pretty convenient procedure to go through.

[StartupAnalyst]

Genuine question -

If the value of one bitcoin became astronomically high one day & there was a state or island somewhere that was strictly bitcoin only as a monetary transfer of value would you emigrate to there?

It’s something I’ve long thought about & I most certainly would to be honest. It’d be great to live amongst like minded people.

 

I wouldn't hesitate to emigrate there!! Unfortunately, in the country I live in now, there is no freedom of speech. Yesterday there was an assassination attempt on a presidential candidate who was almost 30% ahead of the incumbent in the first round of voting.

[xhomerx10]

I just did some background reading on the latest Thai elections that happened in March 2019.  Results come out in May after new king appointed.  

Didn't know about the elections, I suppose it's just bad timing then. I guess some newly elected people want a piece of the pie too or just disagree with the whole project but didn't have a say in it until now.
As for the King, he's just a symbol. He's been here for two years since the death of his very popular father. He hadn't been crowned yet because of a mourning period he had to respect. He's completely different from his father, he's a bit hummm exuberant to say the least and really not respected by his people.

It's not easy realizing your dream in this world, good luck to Elwar and his companions.

The new king. Looks/feels like a joke.

 Obviously the prince's luggage was lost on the flight over so he borrowed some clothing from his lady friend and her dog.

[Kylapoiss]

I hope we can eventually get rid of this whole countries and borders nonsense. The internet is a good start and hopefully future space-based internet providers will eventually put an end to surface based internet filtering. And of course a global and distributed currency.

Well that’s what the EU is trying to do - get rid of borders. Of course the English want to put up more borders but never mind musn’t grumble

The EU is just shifting the problem to the edge of the EU instead of trying to make borders less relevant.

Please explain, do you mean the refugee problem?

Nevertheless borderless Europe is pretty fcking convenient, especially for someone who travels a lot. Just drive/travel from country to country without any hassle. Shengen area is a blessing.

When there is no border control on the borders, there will border control on the doors of shopping malls," schools, train stations, restaurants, hospitals, roads, highways and so on. And still people will get robbed, raped and killed for the sake of border-less travelling and free movement. So at the end the 20 minutes border control on the borders is pretty convenient procedure to go through.

How big percentage is the "illegal" mass of the travellers?

Are they wanted beforehand or do they commit crimes where they see fit?

The people who commit crimes and bring "diversity" are allowed to the (at least in Europe) countries legally. Yeah, I mean the "culturally enrichening" folk.

There are criminals always and everywhere, some are just born with a brain like that. Some don't have empathy and there are always people who want to get by easier. Closing/opening borders doesn't change much in that.

The world is getting more and more digital every day, soon a person wanted by Iraq will be wanted by Latvia as well, with exchanging information. Oh wait, we do have interpol already?

[mindrust]

Building a country is a too complex thing.

If everyone is below 90IQ, that's a problem. If everyone is above 110IQ that's another problem.

You don't want everyone to be too dumb and you definitely don't want everybody to be too smart neither.

If everybody in a country is a smartass, building crypto mining farms, writing codes, healing people, teaching mathematics...

...who's going to pick up the trash?

Now you see why USA&EU allows refugees.

[hodl_2015]

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The EU is just shifting the problem to the edge of the EU instead of trying to make borders less relevant.

Please explain, do you mean the refugee problem?

Nevertheless borderless Europe is pretty fcking convenient, especially for someone who travels a lot. Just drive/travel from country to country without any hassle. Shengen area is a blessing.

Not specifically refugees (there are hardly any refugees, it is just immigration), but especially import tariffs or just plain blocking imports for silly reasons, forcing a single currency without enforcing responsible budgeting by member states or at least trying to harmonize wages and taxes, setting up EU police forces and army that is out of control of any member state, actively seeking confrontations with surrounding countries, etc. The EU in no way trying to make the EU border less relevant.

[Biodom]

...who's going to pick up the trash?

eventually, robots...

[mindrust]

...who's going to pick up the trash?

eventually, robots...

There will always be something a robot can't do but a dumb person can.

Dumb people matter.

[Kylapoiss]

Building a country is a too complex thing.

If everyone is below 90IQ, that's a problem. If everyone is above 110IQ that's another problem.

You don't want everyone to be too dumb and you definitely don't want everybody to be too smart neither.

If everybody in a country is a smartass, building crypto mining farms, writing codes, healing people, teaching mathematics...

...who's going to pick up the trash?

Now you see why USA&EU allows refugees.

But the refugees in Europe don't want to work. They are not even allowed to do so for a few first years (in my country at least). They want free money with a living space.

I used to live in Finland in an area where refugees were massively brought in, I'd say around 95% did not work and had no will to do so. They got more from the government than the lower wages were. I can see similar behaviour when travelling to Sweden or Norway for example. Most of them can't and won't integrate. Not ever.

Most of the garbage handlers in those countries are pale white.

[mindrust]

But the refugees in Europe don't want to work. They are not even allowed to do so for a few first years (in my country at least). They want free money with a living space.

I used to live in Finland in an area where refugees were massively brought in, I'd say around 95% did not work and had no will to do so. They got more from the government than the lower wages were. I can see similar behaviour when travelling to Sweden or Norway for example. Most of them can't and won't integrate. Not ever.

Most of the garbage handlers in those countries are pale white.

As far as I know EU is very selective when they are picking refugees.

I live in the country which sends you those.   (Turkey)

All the dumber ones are here (estimated number is 5 effin million btw) and from what I see, all the doctors and engineers are leaving to the EU.

You have a point though. There are many who don't want to work too.  But hey, be glad you don't live over here. There is worse than bad.

Our alphabet is latin, but there are many Arabic signs I started to see in the streets in the last 4-5 years... I have no idea about what they say.

[Hueristic]

@hueristic I hope your watching this game, just amazing 4 goals in 10 minutes WTF ??

Shit, I've been out all day. Still gotta run back out. I'll definitely check out the highlights when I get done later. Thx

[El duderino_]

I just did some background reading on the latest Thai elections that happened in March 2019.  Results come out in May after new king appointed.  

Didn't know about the elections, I suppose it's just bad timing then. I guess some newly elected people want a piece of the pie too or just disagree with the whole project but didn't have a say in it until now.
As for the King, he's just a symbol. He's been here for two years since the death of his very popular father. He hadn't been crowned yet because of a mourning period he had to respect. He's completely different from his father, he's a bit hummm exuberant to say the least and really not respected by his people.

It's not easy realizing your dream in this world, good luck to Elwar and his companions.

The new king. Looks/feels like a joke.

 Obviously the prince's luggage was lost on the flight over so he borrowed some clothing from his lady friend and her dog.

Obviously

[g-uid]

 Not sure what that means... whose is possessive as in "whose car is parked in my driveway?"
Possibly a very deep meaning in that image.

This is what I was alluding to earlier, i.e., it's all fun and games when a shitcoin is delisted, but what are the ramifications if exchanges with enough might collude to delist BTC?

[Kylapoiss]

But the refugees in Europe don't want to work. They are not even allowed to do so for a few first years (in my country at least). They want free money with a living space.

I used to live in Finland in an area where refugees were massively brought in, I'd say around 95% did not work and had no will to do so. They got more from the government than the lower wages were. I can see similar behaviour when travelling to Sweden or Norway for example. Most of them can't and won't integrate. Not ever.

Most of the garbage handlers in those countries are pale white.

As far as I know EU is very selective when they are picking refugees.

I live in the country which sends you those.  (Turkey)

All the dumber ones are here and from what I see, all the doctors and engineers are leaving to the EU.

You have a point though. There are many who don't want to work too.  But hey, be glad you don't live over here. There is worse than bad.

You guys make the best Kebab And Turks are a working folk.

Where I see it we only get the dumber ones and all the "doctors and engineers" are just spoken about in the news, never seen a person who has seen or heard about such a person.

I'm not whining about my living situation I love where I am and what I earn, but again, I work hard for it. That's why I dislike the "sliders" and the folk who want everything with doing nothing. It has taken a lot of work to get Europe where it is today, outsiders seem to think it just came to be money doesn't grow on trees.

[pönde]

How big percentage is the "illegal" mass of the travellers?

When there is no border control, there are no illegal travelers, just legal.

Are they wanted beforehand or do they commit crimes where they see fit?

They commit crimes when necessary.

The people who commit crimes and bring "diversity" are allowed to the (at least in Europe) countries legally. Yeah, I mean the "culturally enrichening" folk.

Yes. Millions of such people have entered to Europe since 2015 through Europe's outer controlled borders, which were not controlled. So Europe broke it's own legislation and sovereignty too.

There are criminals always and everywhere, some are just born with a brain like that. Some don't have empathy and there are always people who want to get by easier.

That is why more criminals are not needed to enter into any country and the border control is the path of the least resistance.

Closing/opening borders doesn't change much in that.

The border control is not a "closed/opened border". It is the border control. Anyone with proper documents are able to go through border.

The world is getting more and more digital every day, soon a person wanted by Iraq will be wanted by Latvia as well, with exchanging information. Oh wait, we do have interpol already?

God bless we have.

[El duderino_]

@hueristic I hope your watching this game, just amazing 4 goals in 10 minutes WTF ??

Five in 21 min !!
I hope that it would end here and "robots" are eliminated.

Its just that Debruyne never underestimate Belgian injections

What did I just said