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June 20, 2020, 05:30:46 PM
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You can use your BTC stash as collateral for a 5% interest rate personal loan - borrow $10,000 with $40,000 of BTC
Celsius.network

I've earned interest with them for a year now, a good business.

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You can use your BTC stash as collateral for a 5% interest rate personal loan - borrow $10,000 with $40,000 of BTC
Celsius.network

I've earned interest with them for a year now, a good business.

Not your keys, we've had this conversation. don't come crying here when...



Yeah. That's why you bet an amount you can afford to lose, wait for it to double, withdraw the initial... and then just let it ride.
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June 20, 2020, 05:34:30 PM

Yeah. That's why you bet an amount you can afford to lose, wait for it to double, withdraw the initial... and then just let it ride.

Thats what the smart gambler does.
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June 20, 2020, 05:35:23 PM

.... I off course laughed at him and he got all indignant and it turns out the guy writes batch files. Lol


Apart from CNC G code,
writing those batch file thingies that fire up one's shitcoin miner are about the extent of my brilliant coding career.
You can laugh at me though.
I wont get indignant....
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June 20, 2020, 05:44:31 PM
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https://medium.com/swlh/the-greatest-capitalist-scam-of-the-century-why-credit-scores-are-screwing-us-all-over-7f6b607e745d

Quote from: Samuel James White....Why Credit Scores are Screwing Us All Over
The sad fact is that two-thirds of Americans can’t pass a basic financial literacy test, and it’s not getting better at a rapid pace, either.

That's the gist of it.
I learned many years ago after going bankrupt (entirely my fault, young and stupid) you have to play the credit game
correctly and follow the mostly unwritten rules he spells out.
I did that and over the years since my bankruptcy my credit score is virtually perfect now... 830 or something. I don't really care tbh.
I only know that, not because I check it (I don't, that's bad for credit score) but when re-upping my last car lease,
the salesperson mentioned he never sees folks come in with perfect credit scores.

a while back at a bank they wanted to do a "financial wellness score." whatev. so one question was "what do you think your credit score is?" my answer: i dont care. they were kinda put off.. like what if you need a loan. i told them i will pay cash for whatever i need a loan for. as i DONT do debt.

they were not really impressed. kept telling me i may need it. i just told them i dont play that game any more. i live within my means and plan accordingly.
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Thinking about changing to linux soon. -ish. Before the next windows version, at the latest. Long time e-friend nerd recommended linux mint. Looks user friendly. Anyone using it? Can recommend/not recommend?
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https://medium.com/swlh/the-greatest-capitalist-scam-of-the-century-why-credit-scores-are-screwing-us-all-over-7f6b607e745d

Quote from: Samuel James White....Why Credit Scores are Screwing Us All Over
The sad fact is that two-thirds of Americans can’t pass a basic financial literacy test, and it’s not getting better at a rapid pace, either.

That's the gist of it.
I learned many years ago after going bankrupt (entirely my fault, young and stupid) you have to play the credit game
correctly and follow the mostly unwritten rules he spells out.
I did that and over the years since my bankruptcy my credit score is virtually perfect now... 830 or something. I don't really care tbh.
I only know that, not because I check it (I don't, that's bad for credit score) but when re-upping my last car lease,
the salesperson mentioned he never sees folks come in with perfect credit scores.

a while back at a bank they wanted to do a "financial wellness score." whatev. so one question was "what do you think your credit score is?" my answer: i dont care. they were kinda put off.. like what if you need a loan. i told them i will pay cash for whatever i need a loan for. as i DONT do debt.

they were not really impressed. kept telling me i may need it. i just told them i dont play that game any more. i live within my means and plan accordingly.
You know what that means? Means your credit score is higher than their scale goes.
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June 20, 2020, 05:55:51 PM

..... i live within my means and plan accordingly.

I absolutely live within my means also and will never go in cc debt again. It's just that it's not always convenient to pay with cash.
I just swipe and pay off every month. The only time I have a wad of cash in my pocket is when I sell my annual crop of....  (ehem) ....tomatoes!   Wink Cheesy
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Thats what the smart gambler does.

Isn't that an oxymoron?
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June 20, 2020, 06:09:10 PM

Thats what the smart gambler does.

Isn't that an oxymoron?
Nope. Gambling is all about probability. So pick the probabilities you like.
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June 20, 2020, 06:40:10 PM

Thats what the smart gambler does.

Isn't that an oxymoron?

Afaik, smart gambling is counting cards and it's the only way to beat the house odds (besides cheating), and Vegas knows every one of 'em. (card counters)
The casino kicks 'em out as soon as the facial recognition app warns they are on the premises.
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June 20, 2020, 06:40:32 PM

a $92K annual drawdown on $2.3M. Not shabby, but neither is it anywhere near what I was making when I was a wage slave. And I ain't typical retirement age yet, so allowances need be made to extend the principal that many more years.
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Spot on!

Steve Jobs once said: "For the past 33 years, I have looked in the mirror every morning and asked myself: 'If today were the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today?' And whenever the answer has been 'No' for too many days in a row, I know I need to change something."

Calling yourself a wage slave for too long means you really need to change something in your life. Not all people can achieve getting enjoyment from work.

There should be some choice in the kinds of work that we do, and gosh, when we are really young, and just entering the workforce, we might be put in position that require us to do the most shitty of the jobs within the organization that we work - presumably, we do not start out being the boss, even though some people do get into those kinds of positions where they are
put in charge of things due to their connections (and presumably they are trusted to carry out the interests of the owner/boss).

Seems that we can learn from all kinds of jobs, even the bad ones as long as they do not persist in such a bad status for too long of a time.  Surely, some people do get value out of repetitious jobs, and they consider making a living to be worth their time, and of course, the more that we build our skills (or even our likability or ability to work with others or to be trusted), the more options that we are likely going to have.

Some are incapable, others lazy, others just unlucky, although I don't really believe luck can fully define someone. One can make his/her own luck in life, or he/she falls into the "incapable" category. But at least you've got to try. If you fail, try again, and if you fail again, maybe you're not able to do it, or you need to re-evaluate your goals,

We do likely need to concede that some people are going to have more difficult circumstances that they might be trying to get out of, and of course, many of us might not want to be born into a situation in which we have a lot of obligations that don't seem to allow us to have space for self-development, so sure we might be presuming a bit of luck from the start in terms of having some infrastructure, such as we do not have to walk four hours a day for water or some of those material difficulties.

Also, some people might have difficulties just establishing some discretionary income, even if it is $5 per month that can be stacked away...


and Bitcoin can help in such cases, but not everyone is in this situation. Not everyone is a wage slave.

Of course, we are going to agree that bitcoin can help, even in the most dire of circumstances, even if someone might only be able to stack away $5 per month.

We have already gone over the case that any person who is investing in bitcoin better make sure that they have their shit together in other regards, too, because you don't want to be forced to have to cash out any or all of your BTC at a time that is not completely at your own choosing... but of course, bitcoin remains one of the best asymmetric bets - but I will still say that having at least a  5 year timeline to allow the investment to play out is amongst the current best practices, even for someone in dire circumstances.. and surely, even such person who enters into bitcoin currently, could choose to cash out of bitcoin in all or in part at a time that is less than 5 years from now, so long as they are doing so at their own choosing, and not because they had not planned and prepared to ride it out for at least 5 years.


Reaching "fuck you" richness status should not necessarily mean quitting work, or stopping doing what you're doing. It could mean that you are now able to do more things that were out of your reach before, feeling more secure about your financial situation, enjoying your hobbies and leisure time to the maximum, but continue working on the field you enjoy, and even be much more productive and much more involved now, keeping your brain active and your intellectual abilities in top shape. Many of the super-rich personalities of the world are workaholics, because it's their work that keeps them alive.

Probably fuck you status continues to be somewhat about having the option to do stuff that others may or may not agree with because it is your choice to engage in such activity(ies), and not strictly something(s) that you are doing because you have to in order to feel monetarily comfortable.

Can't read the article but banks might have no choice than buying negative yelding bonds to follow rules on holdings. Basically to lend money to "risky" companies and people, they have to hold some "non risky" debt.

Funny that the ECB doesn't offer the same deal to actual people.

Yes. My niece took a loan to buy an apartment about a year ago. I was very surprises how high interest bank still take fro lending out money while they get money for no interest them self. I guess in the future bank loans to actual people will have to get to zero

Of course, banks frequently figure out ways to screw people who do not have other options, and not only do banks get low interest money, in recent times, they do not even have to maintain any reserves, but they still are going to try to charge you as much as you are willing to pay, and you will pay more, if you have fewer options.
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June 20, 2020, 06:41:11 PM

Thats what the smart gambler does.

Isn't that an oxymoron?

Afaik, smart gambling is counting cards and it's the only way to beat the house odds, and Vegas knows every one of 'em. (card counters)
The casino kicks 'em out as soon as the facial recognition app warns they are on the premises.
Weak. gambling house can't handle losing to better gamblers.
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June 20, 2020, 06:44:49 PM

True that, but they'd be outta business otherwise.
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June 20, 2020, 06:45:11 PM

Thinking about changing to linux soon. -ish. Before the next windows version, at the latest. Long time e-friend nerd recommended linux mint. Looks user friendly. Anyone using it? Can recommend/not recommend?

If you're planning to go with Linux I'd recommend to stick with the big guys: CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu. They all have decent support, wide choice of GUIs, they're pretty stable and secure. Also less likely to have compatibility issues... in short: avoid exotic distros Cool
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True that, but they'd be outta business otherwise.
Then they deserve it. Gamble better.
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June 20, 2020, 06:51:25 PM

Are these articles coming off as desperate or what?

I've already commented on that here, and I think we can explain statements like this by something we can call the "Lee effect". It seems that little Michael Lee who worked on this discovery, may be a relative of the famous Tom Lee (Fundstrat). Cheesy

Your attempt to lump bobby lee and tom lee with michael lee seems misplaced as fuck in order to attempt to name something in an innovative way, but I do not get the connection because bobby lee and tom lee seem to understand bitcoin fundamentals and frequently present bitcoin fundamentals in ways that are in touch with reality... If you can point out your elaboration or some evidence that supports such a connection, then I will be more than willing to explore this purported "lee connection" a bit more... because I sure do like some innovative ways of presenting matters as long as they are based on reality rather than misleading...

I wonder if Torque has seen this one yet?  Tongue Tongue  I am suspecting that even Torque would not be willing to go down this supposedly fun path.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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June 20, 2020, 07:23:55 PM

Afternoon all. On the good news front, it looks like P100 filter cartridges are back in stock, so I think I'll be laying in a 1 year supply. Glad people aren't buying them anymore because all is well in the world....

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June 20, 2020, 07:30:24 PM
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Thats what the smart gambler does.

Isn't that an oxymoron?

Basically as long as you realize you are paying for a thrill then you are aware of the risks.

I spent the better part of my life in bars on my off time and now spend the better part of it in casino's (police made it impossible to hang out in local places). And I can safely say I spend LESS money in the casino's then in the bars and have an equivalent amount of fun.

There is nothing free in this world as long as you don't expect to win then you are a safe gambler.

People harp on gambling as being bad and its not, its like anything else that can get out of control. If your weak willed and become an addict and put something in front of your responsibilities then you should not do it.
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June 20, 2020, 07:32:27 PM
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Speaking of fronts..mine appears to be getting larger..

Ricotta pancakes and raspberries proved to be quite the distraction...lost a hour or two...apologies gentlemen.

Good morning afternoon all

Attrition is high but we are winning the battle...keep the pressure up Bulls.

continued thinning of liquidity as we bounce along 0.5 mid term fib support
1h


The .236th and .382nd regiments are activated and proceeding towards the front lines targeting $9,463.5
4h


#dyor
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