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May 23, 2021, 05:19:47 PM

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You should not trade before you can answer this correctly:

A man buys a goat for 60.
Then he sells it for 70.
Later, he buys that goat back for 80.
Then, he sells it again for 90.

How much profit did he make?

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https://twitter.com/LSDinmycoffee/status/1396253987725262851?s=03

Give us a timeline? Have to bring inflation to the calculation...

And what if it's 60 satoshis, we don't know the trading price at each point

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May 23, 2021, 05:21:20 PM

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To all people new in crypto/trading.

You should not trade before you can answer this correctly:

A man buys a goat for 60.
Then he sells it for 70.
Later, he buys that goat back for 80.
Then, he sells it again for 90.

How much profit did he make?

Reply in comments also!
https://twitter.com/LSDinmycoffee/status/1396253987725262851?s=03

Give us a timeline? Have to bring inflation to the calculation...

All the info needed to answer this correctly is already there.
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May 23, 2021, 05:22:52 PM

we went to school you know, at least most of us i think  Smiley
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May 23, 2021, 05:26:42 PM
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Andreas live doing his thing

+1 WOsMerit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bY4D33o5SU
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May 23, 2021, 05:34:50 PM

hope you caught the brief 34k raja to secure some profit  Wink
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May 23, 2021, 05:36:24 PM

EDIT: Found this, for the laughs of y'all:

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To all people new in crypto/trading.

You should not trade before you can answer this correctly:

A man buys a goat for 60.
Then he sells it for 70.
Later, he buys that goat back for 80.
Then, he sells it again for 90.

How much profit did he make?

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the Trader did just a profit of 20 in FIAT before Taxes and is still in trash FIAT with 70.

-60 + 70 = 10
-80 + 90 = 10


the HODLer did a profit of 30 on paper and is still in safe haven Bitcoin with 90.
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May 23, 2021, 05:41:49 PM

hope you caught the brief 34k raja to secure some profit  Wink

you old fellas have eagle eyes.. and diamond hands... for me i'm never able to guess the bottom.... for me $41k was the bottom Sad
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May 23, 2021, 05:42:38 PM

This  is a very good reason for Musk stopping to tweet FUD on bitcoin.



Again, I wouldn’t be surprised to see TSLA revealing that they BTFD on next quarter release.

This would instantly secure their profit for Q2. Tesla needs it  Roll Eyes
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May 23, 2021, 05:44:12 PM
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OK... I gotta put my fun long post concept on hold so I can post a simple thing that is ringing in my head that I think some of you will appreciate.

I have noticed that several of us posting here and even some of the relative noobs (came in 2016 or later) on twitter who have lived through at least one full boom/bust cycle are all saying right now.  You can even go back a page or two and see folks saying it just recently.

but at the same time, it surely helps to have gone through a couple of cycles already
Some unsolicited sage observations and advice from someone who has been through these BTC ups and downs many times:


I am sure I can find more.  But you get the idea...

So what has changed in those of us who have been through this enough?  I used to think it was just that we get USED to it.  That it burns out whatever nerves that react to the pain.  And I think that's part of it for sure... but not the key, really because WHY can we kill those nerves?  How are they being numbed, or armored?

I have also thought maybe we just begin to be able to trust, that though each time might be a little different and will hold surprises (who was thinking we were about to see a >50% dump besides Raja-damus?) that we will pull through again like we have every single time.  I have seen several posts that basically argue this, and I think that is a little piece of it too.  But not the key.

Maybe it's the fact that during each wave of history making BTC goes through - the fundamentals just get stronger.  It's no small thing that we are seeing institutions starting to trickle in.  I was just making THAT argument... that it just does not make sense for BTC to "die". But in fact I imagine the steadier hands out there wanting to get their corporate treasuries in have been lighting up the OTC desks all week.  But yeah... it's not really that either.

Well, what is it?  I will tell you what I think MOST of it is, and it's simple.  And it's almost the sort of truth so fundamental that we want to brush it off and say "Yeah of course, but...".  However, recently I have been realizing how incredibly powerful this is.  It came to my attention when a friend of mine (basically a no-coiner) who thinks he knows how much I hold said to me last week: cAPS, stop being so greedy.  Next time you get to 3 million just SELL and retire.  What the fuck is wrong with you? I realized the reason I do not sell.

The amount of BTC I hold has not changed at all in the last couple weeks. Well it actually went up just a little. Since I have begun to measure my wealth denominated in BTC, it has changed my perspective.  These days I think about how much BTC it will take to put my children through college (maybe not worth it, lol), or buy a house or be able to retire.  I don't even think about how much USD beyond doing the needed conversion since it's still the unit of account for most.

I have quit thinking about my BTC "position" in terms of what it is worth in USD.  I have realized I am not in this to "make money".  I am in this to PRESERVE MY WEALTH.  And the reason these swings don't do as much to me emotionally as they used to is because I have begun to measure my wealth primarily in the amount of BTC I have.  THEN the other things up there come into play.  Yes the price fluctuates compared to USD, or houses etc.  But I am used to that for now.

To the extent we measure our wealth in BTC, we have lost nothing.

And it makes me happy that the rest of the world sees that as crazy.  Not because I want them to HFSP.  But because it is a reliable contrarian tell that I am still doing the right thing.

Yeah... this week has stung a little.  Because the timeline for me moving into my shack on Maui has been pushed back a little again.  C'est la vie...  I am not in a huge hurry. And I have very little doubt that the day will STILL get here before I ever thought it would.

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May 23, 2021, 05:49:37 PM

hope you caught the brief 34k raja to secure some profit  Wink

you old fellas have eagle eyes.. and diamond hands... for me i'm never able to guess the bottom.... for me $41k was the bottom Sad

nobody knows the hard bottom, but bottom retests you can guess because they form temporary lines of resistance from which some bounces will usually happen even if briefly. And balls of steel which i don't have, i am a twat apparently Smiley
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May 23, 2021, 05:52:25 PM

Measuring in Bitcoin will be the tipping point, cAPSLOCK.

Well said  Grin
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May 23, 2021, 05:53:36 PM

Did it ever went down midcycle (similar position) below the prior ATH?
Nope. Therefore, unless we are witnessing something entirely new, somewhere around 25K could be a "natural" attractor because it corresponds to roughly 61.8% decline (Fib number) IF we will go below the prior one (50%, where we are right now, give or take).

Because of this, it either bounce here or at 25K (plus minus a thou or half a thou), IMHO.
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May 23, 2021, 05:59:12 PM

there is no way in hell it doesn't do at least the right shoulder, i would question my whole life if it doesn't

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May 23, 2021, 06:00:21 PM

I'm not yet counting in BTC because I have not enough coins. So in a way, I'm not wishing for a dip, but I'm not dreading it either, because it's an opportunity to buy more. Conversely when we were near the ATH and seemingly going to go higher, I was happy, but that was tempered with some regret because buying more would be difficult/expensive. I don't think I will be able to buy enough to be 100% happy at the next ATH, but I will feel better for having increased my stash.
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May 23, 2021, 06:00:48 PM

Did it ever went down midcycle (similar position) below the prior ATH?
Nope. Therefore, unless we are witnessing something entirely new, somewhere around 25K could be a "natural" attractor because it corresponds to roughly 61.8% decline (Fib number) IF we will go below the prior one (50%, where we are right now, give or take).

Because of this, it either bounce here or at 25K (plus minus a thou or half a thou), IMHO.

With so many liquidated leveraged trades, the "bounce" will likely start as a "crawl".
But anyway, i'm good with how things are. Mostly anytime.
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Explanation
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May 23, 2021, 06:03:00 PM

Did it ever went down midcycle (similar position) below the prior ATH?
Nope. Therefore, unless we are witnessing something entirely new, somewhere around 25K could be a "natural" attractor because it corresponds to roughly 61.8% decline (Fib number) IF we will go below the prior one (50%, where we are right now, give or take).

Because of this, it either bounce here or at 25K (plus minus a thou or half a thou), IMHO.

Actually I do not think the first big bull fit what you ask up there... but did it not have a sort of 2 part run?  We could certainly still do that.

And to your point that it might be doing something different this time... I would be very surprised if it didn't.  Well at this point it is becoming more impossible for it to really repeat itself.
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May 23, 2021, 06:14:50 PM

"Bitcoin is an experimental digital currency"??

experimental??? still? It's been 12 years.... why it's still experimental?

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/
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May 23, 2021, 06:28:08 PM

Okay f*****s who sold, you told me you are not selling, i thought we had a deal we are hodling
I am poor now

1 year ago i was ultra poor

Well back to cage to sleep for a few more years

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