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How was CB supposed to do all the heavy lifting on an empty stomach while we were stuffing our faces with Xmas delicacies? Poor thing! Let's fix him at least a tasty leftover sandwich...

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Just touched that up a smidge:

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Is that inflation adjusted?

Savings, including retirement, represent a huge juicy target and the schemers have contrived to help themselves to them with effective impunity.
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Ugh. Not this shit again   Roll Eyes
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December 22 2021
Why bitcoin is worse than a Madoff-style Ponzi scheme
A Ponzi scheme is a zero-sum enterprise. But bitcoin is a negative-sum phenomenon that you can’t even pursue a claim against, argues Robert McCauley.

https://archive.fo/acY5H

An opinion, while a strange one, i'd summarize the article.
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And the operators take away a large portion of the money.

Who should resemble the "operators" of the "ponzi scheme", Bitcoin is accused as in the scope of the article?
Early adopters?
Miners?

While in the fiat scheme, the "operators" do not take away anything. Amirite?


in the other "ponzi", who do i "pursue a claim against" for giving me 0.001% on my savings account and brrr-ing 40% of currency in 1-2 years?
a rhetorical question.

How about 20 unbalanced deficit budgets in a row

year..loss..............

2002 $158 billion.....
2003 $378 billion
2004 $413 billion
2005 $318
2006 $248
2007 $161
2008 $459

2009 $1,413
2010 $1,294
2011   $1,300
2012   $1,087
2013   $680
2014   $485
2015   $438
2016   $585

2017   $665
2018   $779
2019   $984
2020   $3,100

2021   $3,000


Year after year after  more and more in the hole. No end to this in site.


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https://www.thebalance.com/us-deficit-by-year-3306306
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How about 20 unbalanced deficit budgets in a row

year..loss..............

2002 $158 billion.....
2003 $378 billion
2004 $413 billion
2005 $318
2006 $248
2007 $161
2008 $459

2009 $1,413
2010 $1,294
2011   $1,300
2012   $1,087
2013   $680
2014   $485
2015   $438
2016   $585

2017   $665
2018   $779
2019   $984
2020   $3,100

2021   $3,000


Year after year after  more and more in the hole. No end to this in site.


Source was here
https://www.thebalance.com/us-deficit-by-year-3306306

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A nice read.

Summary: 21 BTC.

Ok  21 BTC is enough.

Are you saying right now that 21 BTC is enough or that 21 BTC is enough in a kind of maintenance level way?

I have some kind of a projection systems that I use that show the number of BTC that I currently have and then I project out the quantity of BTC that I expect to have in the future as the BTC price goes up, and so hypothetically, if I were to start out with 21BTC now, based on my current way of projecting out, I would anticipate if BTC prices were to shoot up to $1.2 million, then I might only have around 18.4BTC... so sure that is a possible ratio that still works...

However, I suppose that if you were to want to end up with 21 BTC by the time the BTC price reaches $1.2 million, then you would need something like 24BTC currently.  

Those are just approximate withdrawal ratios that I currently have in my BTC price projections and BTC portfolio expectations in the event such a BTC price rise up to $1.2 million were to happen.

$1.2 million? Per coin? That would surely make 21 BTC a fuck-you amount of corn, won't it? Even 2.1 BTC could be called that, albeit borderline and more risky.

I remember reading about that idea of being "one in a million" by acquiring 21 BTC. That was at a time when it was relatively easy to reach that level of corn HoDLship. Now, this is way more difficult, and, surely, it's going to be even more difficult in the near future (with some BTFD periods in between, that might ease things a bit, with the current one being one of them). Anyway, I find the "one in a million" target to be a bit silly, and more about semantics, rather than substance. "One in a million?" So what? I don't care if I'm one in a million of anything, as long as I can do what I need, want, desire to do, and also contribute to something that will help the world at large.

To answer your question, I guess it heavily depends on where and how one lives, and what his/her goals are. In a western European country, for example, I'd say that 21 BTC is currently good enough as a safety net that enables the HoDLer to be more direct in using the F-word in his interactions with persons of authority, such as bosses, banks, governments, even family members, etc., but it's still a bit less that what I'd consider true fuck-you status. In 2022-2023, that will most probably change, to the point when 21 BTC gives you true fuck-you rights for most things. I'm not talking about lakes and ranches, these require triple digits at the very least (currently, that is), but I never personally felt the need to own such types of property.

In short, it all depends on the individual, as each one of us is different. I do, however, feel that 21 BTC is a good amount of corn that enables one to reside in the upper floors of the Bitcoin citadel, as pictured beautifully below.


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Some one quoted his tweet and rightly said.

Proof of Work > Proof of Stake
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and I like the idea and thought of this..


https://twitter.com/KlausLovgreen/status/1475424989629272065?s=20
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One of the best analysts I ever bumped in.
Forever grateful to @LFC_Bitcoin for introducing me to him.
 
On-chain analysis mixed with common sense and a little bit of intelligence and market insight.



He keeps an eye on the derivatives market and the implication for spot prices:





The harsh reality is that we are approaching a gargantuan option expiry on Dec 31:



Looks like max pain is at 48K, a price it has been targeted in the last few hours, and given funding dynamics, cannot rule out touching again.









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December 28, 2021, 08:42:45 AM

Everybody getting frustrated on seeing $50-$51k ladder race like going up and then sliding down between these two numbers and asked CB to do something

Every BTC holder to CB : Cmon do something

CB : Let's print $49k

Everybody : F*uck don't do that  Grin

A pump for ants was also taking us away even if slowly also but CB once again playing games with us Angry


But if we have some looks at the charts there are some indications to some pumps coming this new year eve so atleast be patient to see if that's right or not.


Waiting for some heavy pumps and wait till that time and stacking sats.
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