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WTF?

Go to this link and dare him to visit WO

https://twitter.com/coinbureau/status/1532965035844194304?



Why? He's not welcome here. I mean cmon the guy is referring to Bitcoin Fear & Greed index as #crypto. This is ridiculous!  Cool
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I wish I liked Svetski.

The whole Bitcoin purity, gatekeeper, boys club thing is old to me.  It's possible to not be scammer like Raoul Pal or the rest and still hold nuanced opinions...

Maybe im just a fuddy dud.

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June 05, 2022, 11:05:47 AM
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Jeez, hasn’t poor mindrust suffered enough already?



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NEW: Turkey's annual inflation soars to 73.5% in May, highest since 1998.

Ever hear about #Bitcoin  , Mr. President?
https://twitter.com/laman_nft3/status/1533024680629751810?s=21

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Inflation is the most unfair of the taxes. It's regressive, it huts lower income the most, as they have larger portions of their expenses exposed to rise in prices.
Richer people have probably less impact, as they can consume less of their disposable income, and invest the difference in (sort of) inflation resistant assets.

This is a disgrace for the 80 million in Turkey, caused by the few tenths at the steering wheel.
Bitcoin fixes that.
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Inflation is the most unfair of the taxes. It's regressive, it huts lower income the most, as they have larger portions of their expenses exposed to rise in prices.
Richer people have probably less impact, as they can consume less of their disposable income, and invest the difference in (sort of) inflation-resistant assets.

This is a disgrace for the 80 million in Turkey, caused by the few tenths at the steering wheel.
Bitcoin fixes that.


Sir, I am damn sure about this that this assets problem will be fixed soon as you know the solution is already here but for now, world leaders are unable to accept it but due to public pressure they need to accept sooner or later and it will be accepted as now everyone is considering it. Its BTC and WEB 3 with public contol.

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WTF?

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https://twitter.com/coinbureau/status/1532965035844194304?



Why? He's not welcome here. I mean cmon the guy is referring to Bitcoin Fear & Greed index as #crypto. This is ridiculous!  Cool

That's because it's called the Crypto Fear & Greed Index. Ideally there would be a Bitcoin one though.



Source: https://alternative.me/crypto/fear-and-greed-index/

(For some reason this account has appropriated it as a Bitcoin index, not sure why)
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This flat sideways movement feels a bit like the sideway movement after the dump Dec. 2018.

Back then, we went sideways over 3.5 months.  ...If we were to repeat that, we won't go up until Sep.


In 2015 it was relatively flat almost 8 months, which would lead us to Jan. 2023.  Roll Eyes   .... gaaawd...

But I doubt we have a bear market sideways that long.  Too much going on macro-wise.


Anyways brace for it  ...it could be a very boring Bitcoin summer...   Grin

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June 05, 2022, 03:11:26 PM
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[...]

Anyways brace for it  ...it could be a very boring Bitcoin summer...   Grin

Don't worry. Any hardened HoDLer (who has endured the 2018-2020 period) can handle this. Easily.

This is fine.
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Anyways brace for it  ...it could be a very boring Bitcoin summer...   Grin

Don't worry. Any hardened HoDLer (who has endured the 2018-2020 period) can handle this. Easily.

This is fine.

I'm not worried.  I have "endured" way more bear than that, but it's fucking boring... every time


meh.. at least I won't get calls from friends and relatives who pretend to be interested in Bitcoin, when actually they just wanna know the next in vogue shitcoin call to get rich quick ...
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Anyways brace for it  ...it could be a very boring Bitcoin summer...   Grin

Don't worry. Any hardened HoDLer (who has endured the 2018-2020 period) can handle this. Easily.

This is fine.

I'm not worried.  I have "endured" way more bear than that, but it's fucking boring... every time

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Yes, it is... If this carries on for a few more months, then we can assume (somewhat reluctantly, given COVID-19, and the war in Ukraine) that the latest ATH marks the top spot for this 4-year cycle. If this is the case, then we should be expecting a VERY boring future ahead of us (I'm talking years, not just a summer). I would expect 2026 to be a very happy year for us, but right now it seems SO very far away... The shrimps, crabs and other low-tier marine species among us should take advantage of this, and pour most of their fiat inflow into a well-designed DCA/BTFD strategy. The coming few years could well be the last chance for many to rise up to a higher floor in The Citadel.

Patience. GTCTTWW.
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This flat sideways movement feels a bit like the sideway movement after the dump Dec. 2018.

Back then, we went sideways over 3.5 months.  ...If we were to repeat that, we won't go up until Sep.


In 2015 it was relatively flat almost 8 months, which would lead us to Jan. 2023.  Roll Eyes   .... gaaawd...

But I doubt we have a bear market sideways that long.  Too much going on macro-wise.


Anyways brace for it  ...it could be a very boring Bitcoin summer...   Grin

While true, another way to look at this is the consolidations at the lows would be as follows:

2015 for 8 months
2018 for 3.5 months (-56% than before)
2020 for 1.5 months (-57% than before)

(Or ignoring 2020 as wasn't macro low, then for 2022 it could take only 1.5 months consolidation)

It's therefore possible to argue that these consolidations happen faster each time, as Bitcoin's risk notably reduces. This is why I wouldn't be surprised to see price only take a 3-6 weeks to reclaim $30K for good, ie already or very soon. The only consistency between 2015/2016 and 2018/2019 era is approx 3 years before making new ATH. So price could still consolidate between $25K and $60K until 2024 for example.

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NEW: Turkey's annual inflation soars to 73.5% in May, highest since 1998.

Ever hear about #Bitcoin  , Mr. President?
https://twitter.com/laman_nft3/status/1533024680629751810?s=21

LOL.  If the official number is 73.5%—what are real-world cost of living prices in Turkey now?

For comparison, the U.S. ridiculously claims that USD inflation was, what, 7% in 2021?  Are Turkish stats more honest than American stats?

Jeez, hasn’t poor mindrust suffered enough already?

If divine Bitcoin punishes those who leverage it on exchange margin accounts, imagine what it does to those who intentionally dump it in a panicked belief that it was actually going to zero.

What about your government-issued altcoin going to zero?


Inflation is the most unfair of the taxes. It's regressive, it huts lower income the most, as they have larger portions of their expenses exposed to rise in prices.
Richer people have probably less impact, as they can consume less of their disposable income, and invest the difference in (sort of) inflation resistant assets.

More than that:  Rich people enjoy the benefits of debt.  Inflation favors indebtedness.  The system is rigged so that debt is extremely destructive to those with inadequate capital, but those with high capital and good access to the system can profit from borrowing money.  For those in a position that is favored by the way the whole system is set up, it is stupid not to be in debt!

That was a part of my thinking that got me in trouble.  I was trying to outsmart the system—to find clever ways to get the benefits of debt, when the system is stacked against me.  Compare my earlier discussion with Jay about Saylor’s use of debt to buy Bitcoin.  For him, that’s just savvy.  For me, it was catastrophic:  I thought I was being clever, but I was only finding creative ways to make all of the usual newbie mistakes.  I managed to stabilize it for awhile, and to hang on for much longer than a newbie could have; but after months of personal torture over this, I eventually lost most of my money anyway.

Inflation punishes savers, deflation punishes producers—that is Econ. 101.  To Keynesians, et al. (or worst of all, NMT lunatics), punishing savers is a feature, not a bug:  They call saving “hoarding money”.  Deflationary money is obviously a great store of value, and it makes for a sound reserve currency; the problem arises when some deflationary-money enthusiasts stick their heads in the sand about the well-known, entirely uncontroversial problems with deflationary currencies, while they hypocritically continue to use inflationary, centralized, permissioned altcioins (“fiat”) both directly, and as a unit of account.  I mention that because I think it’s no less than an historical tragedy that the whole concept of decentralized, permissionless price-stability has now been unfairly trashed by the actions of a scammer with a centralized blockchain.

(P.S., Jay, that relates to something I said earlier, which I think was misunderstood in your reply; I will try to circle back to that sometime.)
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