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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 1 (2.7%)
$75K to $80K - 1 (2.7%)
$80K to $85K - 0 (0%)
$85K to $90K - 7 (18.9%)
$90K to $95K - 12 (32.4%)
$95K to $100K - 4 (10.8%)
>$100K - 12 (32.4%)
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I wonder if we drift lower, It really feels like that 13/14 slot will get breached by hook or by crook.
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buddy you be boring me.


just got me a 4x dca for 16.4k


it got down to 16.27k on coinbase I missed that



I highly respect you for your dca... especially since you could have bought under 100$ back in the days..  

but I would never hold that against you, since everybody has its own BTC history, and it was much much more questionable back then if Bitcoin would ever "make" it

Took me years to believe in it. oh well “say levi”
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it took me years as well.  But after that I did not have to believe but only understand (to some extend) this new invention.

Also a problem: not that much info out there back then like we have today.



I wonder if we drift lower, It really feels like that 13/14 slot will get breached by hook or by crook.

It seems like.  But then, when we dipped to almost 3k in 2020 it also felt that we could easily go down to 2k or 1k...

will say, around the bottom it always feels like we could go lower easily




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buddy you be boring me.


just got me a 4x dca for 16.4k


it got down to 16.27k on coinbase I missed that



I highly respect you for your dca... especially since you could have bought under 100$ back in the days..  

but I would never hold that against you, since everybody has its own BTC history, and it was much much more questionable back then if Bitcoin would ever "make" it

Took me years to believe in it. oh well “say levi”
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it took me years as well.  But after that I did not have to believe but only understand (to some extend) this new invention.

Also a problem: not that much info out there back then like we have today.



I wonder if we drift lower, It really feels like that 13/14 slot will get breached by hook or by crook.

It seems like.  But then, when we dipped to almost 3k in 2020 it also felt that we could easily go down to 2k or 1k...

will say, around the bottom it always feels like we could go lower easily






I realized in nov of 2017 at say 14k that there was going to be money 💴 for years to come.

While I do not have the coin I should have, I have a lot of gear ⚙️ and Very good power deal.

And I am positioned well for a long term rally.

I also have zero debt.

Time will tell how much or how well I do.
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bottomish times...  like a clockwork










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Summoning that hybrid Bitcoin friendly AI, I’m feeling bored and itching for some action.

Come on Jay, you go girl, you can do it!

hahahaha

Funny how you are able to frame a restart in such a Cryptotourist dominant way - especially when you went out with a kind of cat's-got-ur-tongue whimper in our last battlito.

Maybe you do need a head-start though?

Like a kind of 3 to 1 handicap.


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buddy you be boring me.

just got me a 4x dca for 16.4k

it got down to 16.27k on coinbase I missed that
I highly respect you for your dca... especially since you could have bought under 100$ back in the days..  

but I would never hold that against you, since everybody has its own BTC history, and it was much much more questionable back then if Bitcoin would ever "make" it

Why you going so easy on Philipma?

His excuses are not really very good in regards to why he had been so whimpy in regards to BTC for so many years... even though does seem to be genuinely trying to improve on some of his ways.. but he is still repeating some of his same errors.. .. and sure he does have some good things that he does too... but some of it is quite strange, seeming acts of desperation, gambling and gullibility.

I am not against trying to help Philip.. but geez.. sometimes some of his practices do not seem to be very sound... such as pumping IBonds.. and even having had sold a decent amount of BTC on the way down, around $19k or $20k and expecting to buy back lower.. which yeah seems to be working out so far.. but that's pretty risky and not really a good and generally applicable way to manage BTC stacking. even though yeah, maybe it works for him in some kind of way that seems to show that he must have been overinvested to be employing such non-prudent and gambling practices..

It kind of reminds me of Bitcoin Tina.. .. Hey, maybe Philip and Bitcoin Tina are the same peep?  hahahahahaha

Bitcoin Tina seems to have been even more bold than Philip though and a really BIG gambler in the bullish on bitcoin kind of a way.. so yeah, there are some differences between bitcoin Tina and Philip.. .. even though they both sold a decent amount of BTC at around $20k.. and I am not sure if BTC Tina bought back in yet..

So, yeah each of us have our own paths and we make various mistakes along the way, and sometimes we will not perceive our approach as a mistake - especially if it ended up paying off.. .. I could list some of my mistakes too... but many times, they are not for me to list.. and for example people consider that I keep too many BTC on exchanges.. and at one point i had something like 50% of my stash on exchanges and with 3rd parties.. and maybe that was up to about early 2017.. and then I got down to around 15% on exchanges in late 2017.. and recently, I went down from about 12% to maybe around 8%... and maybe I could take a bit more off exchanges 1-2%, perhaps..  

I have some mistakes with some of my past business relationships, too.. .. and some of those can become too complicated to describe and somewhat devolving off topic, even though sometimes I will bring up some of my past mistakes - and sometimes try to figure out if some of my current strategies might be considered as mistakes.... . and we can argue about the characterization of some of those "arguable mistakes" too...  but I am not going to necessarily overly disclose any gratuitous self-incriminating practices of my own ways of going forward and currently managing my BTC stash, for example... oh some of the mistakes could be security.. like we sometimes might criticize one member or another for their security or the kind of hardware they use.. but sometimes we do not necessarily want to volunteer that information unless it might come up in some other context... like I had put more BTC on BlueWallet's lightning than I had intended.. but then I reduced that down. but still I probably have too much BTC on my BlueWallet lighting wallet... and other members have described security measures that they had taken that had nearly caused them to lock themselves out of their coins, and surely many of us probably are not very solid in the ways that we intend to pass down our keys to our heirs.. and yeah, I would prefer not to completely lose those coins, but sometimes, it is not easy to keep up with the various places that coins are held and then if that information might be available if suddenly I were to get hit by an asteroid.

I wonder if we drift lower, It really feels like that 13/14 slot will get breached by hook or by crook.

Oh my.

Feels like it.. but really?

I would not have so much confidence in such a scenario.. but hey whatever.. you can assign whatever level of confidence that you believe is accurate from your punto de vista..

I realized in nov of 2017 at say 14k that there was going to be money 💴 for years to come.

While I do not have the coin I should have, I have a lot of gear ⚙️ and Very good power deal.

And I am positioned well for a long term rally.

I also have zero debt.

Time will tell how much or how well I do.

Hopefully, you do well.  

It seems that one of the main things is that once we start to get into our 50s and 60s, we want to be able to have the ability to pick and choose our activities and also to wind down if we want to wind down.. yet of course, people do like to stay busy, and also, sometimes there can be feelings that: "whatever I am doing I am doing by choice".. so there is that angle, too...   Sometimes if we mess up our finances too much, then we can be left with various struggles, and surely there are a lot of us who witness others who we perceived to have had screwed up their finances through behaviors that had even seem to have been way too short-sighted, and some of those examples are just way too obvious.. when someone has all kind of luxuries, toys, and more house than they need, but then they are forced to size-down because they did not manage their finances very well (they were consuming too much), or they have to perform physically demanding work in their 50s, 60s and perhaps later, and it seems that they are doing such work because they don't really haven any other option in terms of finances...

It's not easy, even if we do a lot of the things correctly... We can sometimes have money, too and then we are lacking in some of the relations to be able to get help with certain kinds of things, even if we offer to pay... so money does not necessarily solve all problems when it comes to building trust-based relations.
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Both are almost 11 years old and now it's price. Just for Fun Grin

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I also have zero debt.

+1 WO’s merit.



Funny how you are able to frame a restart in such a Cryptotourist dominant way - especially when you went out with a kind of cat's-got-ur-tongue whimper in our last battlito.

Don’t you just love the art of war!
Everybody claims whatever, and draws their own bubble conclusions.
BTW, you were 18-3 down before our last battlito.
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Maybe you do need a head-start though?

Like a kind of 3 to 1 handicap.

It’s not called a “head start”, when I absolutely own your ass already. Grin



Off to the trenches now.
I’d like to re-debate to what extend - the Bitcoin network hashrate drifts in parallel with Bitcoin’s price action or not.
I think we can both agree, that if [extreme example] the hashrate were to fall to zero - Bitcoin’s price would fall to zero.
Similarly, if it were to go bonkers, the price would follow up wildly too.

I’m more interested in the smaller time frames tbh.
Does the price follow the shifts in the hashrate, does it front-run it, or does it back-run it?
Last time we debated this, you sort of convinced me, but now I’m having second thoughts.

Me thinks that when hash ribbons turn green again [currently in a red dip], we’re going to pump through $20k [Feb-March].



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