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@jjg...you are posting pure nonsense.

@bitebits reference analyzed ALL scenarios and the conclusion is there:

"LS consistently outperforms DCA across all time periods, short term and long term.
The longer the time period, the more LS tends to outperform DCA."

You can't fight the math...but, of course, you will.

Hiding behind "normies" having no money, etc etc does not mean that what you peddle is correct.
"Normies" have money, and if they don't, they could even borrow some against some property if they want to get a lump sum.
I did it myself a couple times in the oughts.
In fact, we both know that my LS strategy vastly outperfomed your DCA.
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February 17, 2023, 07:46:23 PM

@jjg...you are posting pure nonsense.

@bitebits reference analyzed ALL scenarios and the conclusion is there:

"LS consistently outperforms DCA across all time periods, short term and long term.
The longer the time period, the more LS tends to outperform DCA."

You can't fight the math...but, of course, you will.

Hiding behind "normies" having no money, etc etc does not mean that what you peddle is correct.
"Normies" have money, and if they don't, they could even borrow some against some property if they want to get a lump some.
I did it myself a couple times in the oughts.
In fact, we both know that my LS strategy vastly outperfomed your DCA.

I stand by my points.

You are not making any new points, and you are also refusing to actually either work with the actual hypothetical that's in front of us (which is the $100 per week income starting from January 2014) or to provide specifics regarding at which point in time extra lump sum dollar amounts would be available (at the beginning of the investment period or at various points in the middle).

You are also failing/refusing to deal with my already concession that the more sophisticated that you are (or the more time that you have to study the matter), then the more likely you can tweak to improve upon a strict DCA approach by employing lump sum buying and or buying on dips.

In other words, you seem to be making up your own bullshit, attributing false issues to me and then saying:  "lookie, lookie, I am the winner" blah blah blah.. It's not that I don't even like you, but you surely are not grappling with the actual employment of a system or attempting to make fair, reasonable and practical comparative applications with anything more than vague innuendos.. with some kind of seeming maniacal obsession of wanting to be right no matter what.. .
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Dollar cost averaging is obviously a good thing.

If you’re a chartist you probably think that this is a setup for a double top scenario, which might lead to shorting here since that is a bearish sign. However, I think a triple top is more likely, and that will probably the last bear trap before we see a jump up. So beware the double top and buy the dip of any triple top if such a pattern develops as we attempt to smash through $25K.
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BTC can do anything as a boyfriend in love but check what happens next to it.
Haha On your side price dropping ohh noo but look at it here i am sure its quite hard to bear but there is no other option.
its like
Price vs Girlfriend but situation is same



 
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BTC can do anything as a boyfriend...

Hamza, so you must have had a lot of boyfriends !  How is it to live as a gay in Pakistan ?  Do you guys get beaten by Muslims, when you kiss in the open?
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If you change the DCA strategy to one which buys the dip at seemingly steadying-out bearish market conditions instead of at fixed time intervals, one might see completely different results.


HODl seems to prove the best strategy only when assuming 5000%+ future prices. And what chance does a normie trader have to spot Bitcoin's potential in the early days?

So I see that study as fundamentally flawed. You simply cannot take into account pre-mainstream prices just as you cannot account for ICO/IPO investments turning out to be unicorns.

This is why DCA>LS



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BTC can do anything as a boyfriend...

Hamza, so you have had a lot of boyfriends!  How is it to live as a gay in Pakistan?  Do you guys get beaten by Muslims, when you kiss in the open?

Hahaha, Dear Alhamdulillah First of I am Muslim, and I am the Man by strength and by words. I remember the unusual and rough talk on this Gay topic if I'm not forgetting it was at some Event I am not sure if was it Christmas or Eid. Anyway, hopefully this time things are going to be better than previous times..  
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Anyway, hopefully this time things are going to be better than previous times..  

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BTC can do anything as a boyfriend...

Hamza, so you must have had a lot of boyfriends !  How is it to live as a gay in Pakistan ?  Do you guys get beaten by Muslims, when you kiss in the open?

OK, Boomer...
I thought the bell curve is part of common sense nowadays, but here we go:

I know some gays who are more a man than most other men i know.
To be fair though, i also met some gays being more a lady than most women i know.

M'kay?  Roll Eyes

EDIT: BTC going up to attack $25k agaist similar resistance figures, compared to last time King Daddy broke $25k?
The retrace was short lived and shallow. Good, good!
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A BOTTLE OF JACK !
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A BOTTLE OF JIZZJACK !

FTFY, you're welcome.
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BTC can do anything as a boyfriend...

Hamza, so you have had a lot of boyfriends!  How is it to live as a gay in Pakistan?  Do you guys get beaten by Muslims, when you kiss in the open?
I am Muslim, and I am the Man by strength and by words. ...

...not a man of understanding and intellect ?



I remember the unusual and rough talk on this Gay topic..

What exactly was rough in that talk?

Do you mean that your friends said things like gays are evil and that it's better to get rid of them ?



if I'm not forgetting it was at some Event I am not sure if was it Christmas or Eid.

Yes, I was looking for some nice gay-Eid cards.  
Can you show me some ?   Please don't do it, if you risk to get killed for blasphemy by your fellow cultists.



hopefully this time things are going to be better than previous times..  

Yes indeed. It was definitely not nice for gays to get called the evil of the world and that they should be made disappear *somehow*

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Whatever investing strategy you settle on, be it lump sum or dollar cost averaging, you´re going to execute it once, not 4000 times or some such.  I haven´t read the posts, just looked at the graphic comparing large samples.  No mention of variance.  Okay, I don´t wanna get in a scrum with people, this seems like a contentious issue, so please don´t adopt my in support of your argument or lambaste me as helping the other side.  I´m going for a walk now.
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BTC can do anything as a boyfriend...

Hamza, so you must have had a lot of boyfriends !  How is it to live as a gay in Pakistan ?  Do you guys get beaten by Muslims, when you kiss in the open?

OK, Boomer...
I thought the bell curve is part of common sense nowadays, but here we go:

I know some gays who are more a man than most other men i know.
To be fair though, i also met some gays being more a lady than most women i know.

M'kay?  Roll Eyes


Please explain to me, how what you wrote has anything to do with the topic that I brought up (Muslim hate towards gays).




Edit
some more poking at 25k and we might go through for good

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...not a man of understanding and intellect?

Ahhh not again dear understood that's why hoped for a good talk this time.... Show me where I have misunderstood.

What exactly was rough in that talk?
Im not sure as I don't feel it's important to remember..

Do you mean that your friends said things like gays are evil and that it's better to get rid of them ?

I dont know what are talking about as i mentioned above

Yes, I was looking for some nice gay-Eid cards.  
Can you show me some ?   Please don't do it, if you risk to get killed by your fellow cultists for blasphemy.

I think its nothing to do with you

hopefully this time things are going to be better than previous times..  

Yes indeed. It was definitely not nice for gays to get called the evil of the world and that they should be made disappear *somehow*

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