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March 09, 2023, 11:57:59 AM
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We Really Are Still Early...

In an hypothetical scenario let's suppose bitcoin takes over everything and it's takes 24 hours to do. With this perspective bitcoin started just 38 seconds ago.

Wow this new logic came to me just now while sh*tting... I never knew i was this good at math Smiley


https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/11miaks/we_really_are_still_early/
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We Really Are Still Early...

In an hypothetical scenario let's suppose bitcoin takes over everything and it's takes 24 hours to do. With this perspective bitcoin started just 38 seconds ago.

Wow this new logic came to me just now while sh*tting... I never knew i was this good at math Smiley


https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/11miaks/we_really_are_still_early/

Hard to get exact figures but let's say that 20% of all BTC in ownership is held by Americans (it's probably less right?) and let's imagine they can really tax 40% capital gains on it all starting from now. That would give them a tax windfall of $72 trillion based on their share of the $900 trillion.

Given that current government debt is over $30 trillion, I bet by the time BTC has "taken all", the USA could not even pay off its debt with that enormous tax windfall.  Cheesy

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JUST IN: 🇺🇸 FED Chair Jerome Powell says no one should assume the Fed can protect the economy in a debt default ‼️ 😳

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Who else can be responsible? Everything associated with his business is the reason for this market crash. He is busy enjoying his time with pizza and whatnot others who had invested money in his business are not on the verge of killing themselves. The best part about this situation is that the government was all the way promoting him as a scammer.
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22k $ looks like a nice reentry with limited downside risk imho… we could see 21,600 imo but I’ll buy these levels and strong buy at 21,600 if this continues.
 Hey Jay, not smug like the 17$ bottom… just having fun and trying to be humble knowing that Bitcoin has and will humble us all eventually  Grin

I am not sure what you mean.

Are you saying that $21,600 is likely a decent bottom, but you are not exactly sure about the odds?

How could anyone (who has been studying the space) say anything else?  I know that there are guys with decent confidence that the bottom is not yet in.. so far $15,479 .. but gosh, I have hardly any clear vision regarding how, on a personal level, I am supposed to assign the odds.   I do agree that it is too early to proclaim that we are "out of the bear market," so from my thinking if we are "not out of the bear market" then that merely means that the odds for down are greater than the odds for up, but still does not mean that the odds for lower than $15,479 would be greater than 50%.. so maybe 40% at best.. but I still am lacking in confidence in regards to how to frame the overall picture (of odds for both up in down) in order that they add up..

I suppose that I could go back to my earlier post on the topic (that was revised December 16, 2021 and May 19, 2022) and attempt to revise it.. even though I am thinking that it would be a bit of a waste of time to go through such a process.. it would likely not help me in terms of changing any of my orders or anything (so why should I do it?  to help someone else?  I am not even sure if it would be helpful for anyone else beyond what I already did.. so people can go through their own calculations if they believe it to be potentially helpful... they can even use my earlier framing, if they consider that to potentially be helpful).
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Yeah one can never be exactly sure of a bottom… it doesn’t really matter if Bitcoin drops below 21,600 since I went all in at 17k$ Sold at around 24k$
Have a good day Jay
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Who else can be responsible? Everything associated with his business is the reason for this market crash. He is busy enjoying his time with pizza and whatnot others who had invested money in his business are not on the verge of killing themselves. The best part about this situation is that the government was all the way promoting him as a scammer.

That whole Maxine Waters blowing him a kiss seemed weird. Definitely some back room deals went on.

Like the fake story we now got about Nordstream, it seems the US prosecutors only acted when they could see people starting to talk truths online.

I bet SBF will eventually be let off with minimal repercussions to himself physically and financially even though the new CEO of FTX said what he did was worse than what happened with Enron.
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Who else can be responsible? Everything associated with his business is the reason for this market crash. He is busy enjoying his time with pizza and whatnot others who had invested money in his business are not on the verge of killing themselves. The best part about this situation is that the government was all the way promoting him as a scammer.

That whole Maxine Waters blowing him a kiss seemed weird. Definitely some back room deals went on.

Like the fake story we now got about Nordstream, it seems the US prosecutors only acted when they could see people starting to talk truths online.

I bet SBF will eventually be let off with minimal repercussions to himself physically and financially even though the new CEO of FTX said what he did was worse than what happened with Enron.

 Bankman-Fraud must have directed a hefty sum of money at Waters that she would even risk being seen blowing kisses at him.
 
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Lol

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Who else can be responsible? Everything associated with his business is the reason for this market crash. He is busy enjoying his time with pizza and whatnot others who had invested money in his business are not on the verge of killing themselves. The best part about this situation is that the government was all the way promoting him as a scammer.

That whole Maxine Waters blowing him a kiss seemed weird. Definitely some back room deals went on.

Like the fake story we now got about Nordstream, it seems the US prosecutors only acted when they could see people starting to talk truths online.

I bet SBF will eventually be let off with minimal repercussions to himself physically and financially even though the new CEO of FTX said what he did was worse than what happened with Enron.

 Bankman-Fraud must have directed a hefty sum of money at Waters that she would even risk being seen blowing kisses at him.
 

The lowest Bitcoin went after 2017 was in 2019 and it was on February 7, 2019, when the USD value was $3,384.91. If I am not correct then I apologize. Considering the present situation I do not think that Bitcoin will go down so much but ironically it is going down. I think it will hit the biggest low after 2019.
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Who else can be responsible? Everything associated with his business is the reason for this market crash. He is busy enjoying his time with pizza and whatnot others who had invested money in his business are not on the verge of killing themselves. The best part about this situation is that the government was all the way promoting him as a scammer.

That whole Maxine Waters blowing him a kiss seemed weird. Definitely some back room deals went on.

Like the fake story we now got about Nordstream, it seems the US prosecutors only acted when they could see people starting to talk truths online.

I bet SBF will eventually be let off with minimal repercussions to himself physically and financially even though the new CEO of FTX said what he did was worse than what happened with Enron.

 Bankman-Fraud must have directed a hefty sum of money at Waters that she would even risk being seen blowing kisses at him.
 

The lowest Bitcoin went after 2017 was in 2019 and it was on February 7, 2019, when the USD value was $3,384.91. If I am not correct then I apologize. Considering the present situation I do not think that Bitcoin will go down so much but ironically it is going down. I think it will hit the biggest low after 2019.


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Cheesy this is what happens when you mining shitcoin (you can't afford to cover electricity bills and buy a vacuum cleaner)
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@jjg yes I am.

I am diverse but around 65% BTC

It may be worth while to attempt to flesh out some of these ideas in regards to overall investment portfolio allocations as compared/contrasted with BTC allocations a wee bit.

Surely in the past couple of years or so, there has been quite a bit of acknowledgement that the traditional portfolio of 60% to equities and the 40% to bonds has been quite a bit of a loser portfolio, especially recognizing that the bonds portion had been largely losing value, and so maybe some of the attention in regard to the losing nature of the bond allocation had been further triggered by the amount of attention that money printer go bbbuuuurrrr had been flaunted since March 2020d... .

So there has been quite a bit of negativity regarding how much bond performance had been drawing down the values of the whole portfolios that institutions were forced to maintain and individuals had been somewhat blindly following similar kinds of allocations.... so then there may have been concerns to attempt to reconfigure (reallocate) out of bonds, but then at the same time the movement of the Fed interest rates UPpity seem to have been designed to attempt to lure individuals back into having some of their value in bonds... even though the mandates of institutions had not really changed in terms of their having to keep some of their allocations in bonds.. even though maybe incentivizing some of them to end up to take higher levels of risk in other areas of their portfolios because of the recent (and even projected ongoing low performance of bonds)..

It seems that my historical investments (prior to bitcoin) were quite highly allocated in bonds, yet it seems that even by the time that I got into bitcoin, I had been gravitating more and more towards other forms of investments (and more and more willingness to take some risks with some of my investment/savings based on the principle continuing to grow), but then I tended to calculate the quasi-liquid portion of my investment portfolio a little bit differently, too (in terms of not necessarily ONLY giving value to liquid assets.. but attempting to calculate approximate values on all assets that I had available whether or not they could immediately be liquidated or whether they were generating current cashflows).. so in one of my posts from June 29, 2022, I try to show how my allocation to bitcoin had changed over the years.. but part of the reason for the changes in the allocation that increasingly became more and more weighted towards bitcoin was due to the relatively greater price appreciation of bitcoin compared to the other assets rather than my having had made any kinds of reallocation moves... My greatest reallocation moves largely came from my merely getting into bitcoin and coming off of zero (and aiming for 10% that evolved into something like 13.5%.. and while various traditional aspects of my overall portfolio remained relatively flat.. and maybe appreciated in value around 70% or so over 9 years, bitcoin became a way higher portion of my overall investment portfolio based mostly on its appreciation rather than my fucking around very much with any kind of meaningful reallocations.

And sure, in June 2022, I was around similar levels as what you (Phil) are asserting yourself to be right now.
..... and I am a bit lazy to update that chart to figure out the extent to which there is (or would be) much of any significant/material change between what my various allocations were in June 2022 as compared to what they are today.. so in that regard, maybe I am largely attempting to make the argument that in recent years.. maybe since 2016/2017 or so, I have not really been making much if any changes to the way that I had allocated (and not really engaging in reallocations), and surely not really anything to get very excited about.. because they BIGGEST of the allocations involve getting started (in bitcoin in late 2013 and thereafter for me) and establishing a position (same timeframe), then soon thereafter we might get into a kind of maintenance - however, I would conceded that it could take younger folks 10-20 years before they might get to a kind of maintenance stage, but I had done a large portion of my "getting to my maintenance" stage prior to getting into bitcoin (which was already more than 20 years), so by the time I got into bitcoin, I spent mostly a year establishing my BTC allocation.. and then had another year that may have ended up kind of dragging into two years of bolstering and buttressing such allocation.. perhaps based on some of my nervousness of just wanting to get as many BTC as I could during the earlier stages of my own BTC journey to establish a meaningful/significant position.
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