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Question: How far will this leg take us?
$110K - 9 (8.3%)
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My reason is because a lot of countries do not have internet every where. I lot of places in Africa need offline money and sending transactions offline with Bitcoin is difficult. It can be done by giving someone a seed of a set amount but that is not ideal. We need different currencies for different things. Bitcoin is the king when it comes to global transactions but when it comes to local and quick transactions physical might be better not always but in certain times.
Satellite will become more popular and given enough time the whole world will have internet access. The only places that might struggle will be the places where they do not have any power but I think this will improve too. The world is evolving and as soon as Bitcoin takes off the places with no power or internet will be encouraged to develop if the rest of the world is using Bitcoin.

I have to agree with you as satellites will achieve  world wide coverage in the next decade.
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My reason is because a lot of countries do not have internet every where. I lot of places in Africa need offline money and sending transactions offline with Bitcoin is difficult. It can be done by giving someone a seed of a set amount but that is not ideal. We need different currencies for different things. Bitcoin is the king when it comes to global transactions but when it comes to local and quick transactions physical might be better not always but in certain times.
Satellite will become more popular and given enough time the whole world will have internet access. The only places that might struggle will be the places where they do not have any power but I think this will improve too. The world is evolving and as soon as Bitcoin takes off the places with no power or internet will be encouraged to develop if the rest of the world is using Bitcoin.

I have to agree with you as satellites will achieve  world wide coverage in the next decade.
I read that China are trying to compete with Elon Musks satellite launches so that will drive the coverage up and hopefully the cost will be driven down. Then other companies will eventually launch their own satellites and we should have global coverage at a low cost. I look forward to it and I think Bitcoin will thrive because of it.
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Culling all ministers and in effect putting down government would be easier for sure and solve a multitude of problems I bet, including financial ones.


UK cat cull was considered early in Covid crisis, ex-minister says
James Bethell says government considered whether all pet cats might have to be put down to contain virus

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/01/uk-cat-cull-was-considered-early-in-covid-crisis-ex-minister-says

 Gov't is a bottomless pit of idiocy.
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Culling all ministers and in effect putting down government would be easier for sure and solve a multitude of problems I bet, including financial ones.


UK cat cull was considered early in Covid crisis, ex-minister says
James Bethell says government considered whether all pet cats might have to be put down to contain virus

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/01/uk-cat-cull-was-considered-early-in-covid-crisis-ex-minister-says

 Gov't is a bottomless pit of idiocy.


They are far more clever than you think.

They managed to convince you they are incompetent idiots Wink

Thus they get to steal by making the theft look like a stupid decision and not an intentional theft
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When you are trying to best buddy you begin to appreciate why ai and or bots are made.

I doubt I will end up topping buddy for the month of march but I will try to do it.
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Seems like a hopeless fight, Phil. But knock yourself off...
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What dip?

You started this... I just want you to remember that I remember...
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It do be like this
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What dip?

You started this... I just want you to remember that I remember...

Hey I did a DCA on weds. and you are correct when we dropped off the 25k table I did say buddy setup some dip for us.

Which is pretty tasty at 23.3k or so

I did buy 2 m30s+ units which are earning coin as I type.
I am adding a 110th s19 pro next week

So I am buying the gear dip more than I am buying the coin dip.

I am close to having my mine filled with these nice low prices on gear.
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phil!!  heeeeeeey phil!!!!!!


wakeup man!!!! buddy got one over on you. this is not a good look for us humans ya know



Hey I stayed up till 1am .

I am back on the job and gaining on buddy for Thursday.

I am beginning to realize it is close to impossible to do this for a month.

Buddy  march 2  = 13
Phil      march 2 =   9

what holds me back is I don't do mobile for bitcointalk

thus when I leave the house buddy gains on me.
and of course buddy gains while I sleep.

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wonder if it is worth reading the article.

Did you read any of it?




Buddy  march 2  =  13
Phil      march 2 =   10

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I did buy 2 m30s+ units which are earning coin as I type.
I am adding a 110th s19 pro next week

Props to you for continuing mining. I just can't cost-justify the aggravation at this point managing a miner - I was torturing myself with Lightning as it is, and find at the end of the day, it's just easier to smash buy $250 at odd intervals; knowing it's more BTC than I would have acquired if I never bought the miner to begin with...

Unnerstan?
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I did buy 2 m30s+ units which are earning coin as I type.
I am adding a 110th s19 pro next week

Props to you for continuing mining. I just can't cost-justify the aggravation at this point managing a miner - I was torturing myself with Lightning as it is, and find at the end of the day, it's just easier to smash buy $250 at odd intervals; knowing it's more BTC than I would have acquired if I never bought the miner to begin with...

Unnerstan?


yep 👍 since that is the cheapest way for you to buy btc.

my mining deal allows me to get btc at 50% off. once the gear is paid for.

So if I expand slowly during the “dip” i pay the piece of gear off quickly and then get coin at half price
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You can be a royal pain in the ass.

Thanks.

do you think i believe that we will have 5 years of 5% to 7% interest from the fed.

Do I have any idea regarding what you think?

That's a rhetorical question, right?

I know that you have frequently presented a quite a bit of nonsense, including that when BTC prices were bouncing around $16k, you were suggesting that guys with 100 BTC (and presumably coiners with lower quantities of BTC) should sell their BTC and buy IBonds.

which would not be anywhere near what happened under Nixon Ford Carter then Reagan.

I am not sure how helpful such an analysis and comparison would be (or should be).. figure out bitcoin first, and figure out your own situation including how much that you want to allocate to bitcoin before getting overly worked up in terms of trying to figure out if there might be some value in holding fiat as an investment rather than merely as a way to manage your cashflow (and expenses).  I am not completely against comparing and contrasting traditional investment portfolios that might consider 40/60 allocations that are 40% bonds and 60% equities, so in that regard, if anyone feels compelled to continue to follow a traditional investment allocation, then they may well also need to consider how much to put into bitcoin.

If we have been in bitcoin for a while, we likely have long ago gotten away from a 40/60 allocation, and a lot of the getting away from trying to frame your investment in terms of traditional categories is to figure out what the fuck you are going to do with bitcoin, and I would imagine that you should be way more locked in than me because you have been in bitcoin for nearly 3 years longer than me, but part of the problem seems to be that you still want to start to analyze the situation from a traditional kind of framework when we are in a bitcoin thread.. so focus ur lil selfie... get you bitcoin plan together first, and if you want to dabble in that other stuff then so be it, I don't see any reason to spend a lot of time talking about it in these here parts.. especially pumping that bullshit as if we need to have it as part of the focus of any of our discussions in this thread.

But I am certain that unless they end the Ukraine 🇺🇦 Russia 🇷🇺 war rates will remain high.

Whats high 5-7% till Jan 2025 is likely.

Which means shit news for btc or shitcoins

Sure.. no problem.  The interest rates might remain in the 5-7% price arena for the coming 2 years or more.. so what? I imagine that part of the concern also remains to keep interest rates high in order to try to attempt to drive CPI down to 2% or maybe they will be willing to accept 5%.. and whether it is the Ukraine war or some other excuse, there is a battle to keep the dollar as the strongest of the currencies in order that other currencies are going to continue to have to try to keep up with the top of the fiats.. and the extent to which you should allow your bitcoin investments (management or approach) to materially be affected by interest rates should likely be a relatively minor consideration.  You have heard of the four year fractal, no?  You have also heard of exponential s-curve adoption based on network effects and Metcalfe principles, right?  Anyhow, bitcoin might be manipulated down to some extent but it still remains the fastest horse in the race and likely will continue to be the fastest horse in the race for the next 10 to 20 years.. even though there are likely going to continue to be bumps in the road along the way, too.

Regarding shitcoins. .. who cares?  Fuck shitcoins...
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@ jjg

your assessment that btc over the next 10-20 years is it will have the highest rate of return is something I am prepared for.

i am prepared for it to do other things such as

what gold did from 1992 to 2003

that is stay in slot 200-400 usd.

btc from dec 2022 to 2033 stays in a slot from 16k to 50k

my methods will allow me to survive that.

or go as high as 500k same time slot.

but remember i get coins at 50% with my mining deal.

there are not a lot of us doing this.
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