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August 03, 2014, 09:34:58 PM |
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H town as in?........ Houston? long way from france?
lol yea, i live in paris but also have family in texas and i love both france and USA, its just the politicians & bankers that are/have seriously wrong doing. they will lead us that systemic failure you were talking about earlier. "Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power."
Benito Mussolini
THIS +1000 (one of my favourite quote)
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August 03, 2014, 09:36:42 PM |
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However, it involves the government propping up financial institutions or big companies or "protecting" the military and police and private property, that is called democracy and capitalism... which is a "good" thing....
That would be crony capitalism, which is equally evil. I'm from Europe and I completely agree. France is the last country in Europe I'd want to live. They`re basically communists. And yes stealing the wealth of people actually contributing to the country is indeed a bad thing. Very few people in my country agree  distributing money to the people does NOT sound like a bad thing... especially considering the other extreme could be attempting to privatize public goods... there is such a thing as public goods and there is such a thing as privatizing what should be public goods. I could not disagree more. Public goods should not exist. All public goods are stolen, directly or indirectly.
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August 03, 2014, 09:38:52 PM |
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distributing money to the people does NOT sound like a bad thing
It is. Central planning is notoriously bad at predicting where capital needs to be invested. It leads to massive inefficiencies, which usually means a slower economy, loss of jobs, and poorer conditions for the working class. Distribution of money by those in government is a form of central planning. Individuals and small groups of people are simply not good at knowing where to invest. A truly free market will perform much better than central planners. Note that crony capitalists need not apply. They are just as bad as central planners, picking out businesses to receive money instead of individuals.
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lolbtc
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August 03, 2014, 09:38:56 PM |
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we can do the same; we just have to pay our workers like they re chinese. Check the hartz laws, why do you talk economy if you don t even know how your neighbor shits
i m not nationalist, i fugg with em every day
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August 03, 2014, 09:42:12 PM |
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we can do the same; we just have to pay our workers like they re chinese. Check the hartz laws, why do you talk economy if you don t even know how your neighbor shits
i m not nationalist, i fugg with em every day
htown? you are from france and you live in Houston?
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August 03, 2014, 09:43:38 PM |
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H town as in?........ Houston? long way from france?
lol yea, i live in paris but also have family in texas and i love both france and USA, its just the politicians & bankers that are/have seriously wrong doing. they will lead us that systemic failure you were talking about earlier. "Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power."
Benito Mussolini
THIS +1000 (one of my favourite quote) You are both from Houtson?
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August 03, 2014, 09:44:37 PM |
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"Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power."
Benito Mussolini
THIS +1000 (one of my favourite quote) Yeah I do not think Benito was kidding.
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August 03, 2014, 09:48:19 PM |
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Htown we have a problem! 
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August 03, 2014, 09:54:12 PM |
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August 03, 2014, 09:59:54 PM |
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August 03, 2014, 10:00:23 PM |
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August 03, 2014, 10:09:21 PM |
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However, it involves the government propping up financial institutions or big companies or "protecting" the military and police and private property, that is called democracy and capitalism... which is a "good" thing....
That would be crony capitalism, which is equally evil. I'm from Europe and I completely agree. France is the last country in Europe I'd want to live. They`re basically communists. And yes stealing the wealth of people actually contributing to the country is indeed a bad thing. Very few people in my country agree  which country is that if i may ask?
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August 03, 2014, 10:18:10 PM |
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August 03, 2014, 10:26:18 PM |
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we can do the same; we just have to pay our workers like they re chinese. Check the hartz laws, why do you talk economy if you don t even know how your neighbor shits
i m not nationalist, i fugg with em every day
htown? you are from france and you live in Houston? I am currently in Paris but i was in Houston for five years -for work-. American industry love french ppl because they work, and they work good...... anyway, im not a fuggin nationalist, im just aware of the strenght of my country. Because i read from everywhere, and not only in plotist blogshit like hdbuck ^^ peace ^^ and when i read "lepen in 2017 plus civil war" from a french i want to cry ^^ However, it involves the government propping up financial institutions or big companies or "protecting" the military and police and private property, that is called democracy and capitalism... which is a "good" thing....
That would be crony capitalism, which is equally evil. I'm from Europe and I completely agree. France is the last country in Europe I'd want to live. They`re basically communists. And yes stealing the wealth of people actually contributing to the country is indeed a bad thing. Very few people in my country agree  which country is that if i may ask? I bet on Denmark, the country where fuggin with animals is okay burn this shit
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August 03, 2014, 10:28:25 PM |
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there doesn't exist a good financial system yet, whether in the USA or EU or Asian countries or even Arabic countries.... the real system that could serve all parties fairly is yet to exist, and I believe that we are not far away from it, however, it is funny because choosing between capitalism or socialism is like choosing between slavery or constant rape.... there is no reason to defend the actual systems but finding a way for a better system is what everyone should be seeking.
To be honest, IMHO I feel that we are at a very critical point that will change the picture of the world in the next 10 -20 years, it will be so different from today and I don't mean technologically, but the world leadership, policy making, map borders, region influence....
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August 03, 2014, 10:34:53 PM |
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However, it involves the government propping up financial institutions or big companies or "protecting" the military and police and private property, that is called democracy and capitalism... which is a "good" thing....
That would be crony capitalism, which is equally evil. I'm from Europe and I completely agree. France is the last country in Europe I'd want to live. They`re basically communists. And yes stealing the wealth of people actually contributing to the country is indeed a bad thing. Very few people in my country agree  distributing money to the people does NOT sound like a bad thing... especially considering the other extreme could be attempting to privatize public goods... there is such a thing as public goods and there is such a thing as privatizing what should be public goods. I could not disagree more. Public goods should not exist. All public goods are stolen, directly or indirectly. Yeah, right.... Sounds as if you have some pretty incomplete thinking about what is a public good and what should be a public good. I would hate to have someone with your kind of thinking in charge of balancing community needs. Who owns the air and water, for example? Should air and water, for example, be privately owned?
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August 03, 2014, 10:37:35 PM |
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distributing money to the people does NOT sound like a bad thing
It is. Central planning is notoriously bad at predicting where capital needs to be invested. It leads to massive inefficiencies, which usually means a slower economy, loss of jobs, and poorer conditions for the working class. Distribution of money by those in government is a form of central planning. Individuals and small groups of people are simply not good at knowing where to invest. A truly free market will perform much better than central planners. Note that crony capitalists need not apply. They are just as bad as central planners, picking out businesses to receive money instead of individuals. Who said anything about central planning? I mentioned that distribution of money to the people does NOT sound like a bad thing... Of course, such distribution is going to depend on context and degree... The devil is likely in the details.
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August 03, 2014, 10:40:53 PM |
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we can do the same; we just have to pay our workers like they re chinese. Check the hartz laws, why do you talk economy if you don t even know how your neighbor shits
i m not nationalist, i fugg with em every day
htown? you are from france and you live in Houston? I am currently in Paris but i was in Houston for five years -for work-. American industry love french ppl because they work, and they work good...... anyway, im not a fuggin nationalist, im just aware of the strenght of my country. Because i read from everywhere, and not only in plotist blogshit like hdbuck ^^ peace ^^ and when i read "lepen in 2017 plus civil war" from a french i want to cry ^^ However, it involves the government propping up financial institutions or big companies or "protecting" the military and police and private property, that is called democracy and capitalism... which is a "good" thing....
That would be crony capitalism, which is equally evil. I'm from Europe and I completely agree. France is the last country in Europe I'd want to live. They`re basically communists. And yes stealing the wealth of people actually contributing to the country is indeed a bad thing. Very few people in my country agree  which country is that if i may ask? I bet on Denmark, the country where fuggin with animals is okay burn this shit Netherlands (and no, fucking animals is no longer legal).
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August 03, 2014, 10:49:44 PM |
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Netherlands, weird folk too how can you say its bad to distribute money to ppl, its not about throwing money to ppl who don t want to work. If you don t work you have like 400€, tuna pasta errday, enjoy your life ^^ oh god i want to buy a buggati for my son's 18 but i have to wait one more mounth because my employees needs to get paid  its rly hard to be rich in france  one of the biggest france s problem is the "larbins". They want to protect the rich at all cost even if they re not rich and will never be. Sad, livin through them, like if they deserve to be poor and are okay with that. SAD TRUTH. It s about creating free hospital or school the problem of the world is usa (and its not new), they do what they want, just look what they do in argentina, or what they did to france with these fuggers of bnp. Wait till europa says fugg you us, we will laugh rly hard BACKLASH YO
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