Third alt coin thread last two were too big. Builds links thoughts etc

[vg54dett]

Phil , do you stick to ethpool for Eth mining ?

yes as I like the shot at uncles.  I got one the other day


http://ethpool.org/miners/3ef297e47404a771139472b93621f82c8a832857/blocks

Do you consider PASC mining ? I noticed this is available with Claymore Dual mining now.

[philipma1957]

Phil , do you stick to ethpool for Eth mining ?

yes as I like the shot at uncles.  I got one the other day


http://ethpool.org/miners/3ef297e47404a771139472b93621f82c8a832857/blocks

Do you consider PASC mining ? I noticed this is available with Claymore Dual mining now.

been busy  I should give it  a try

[GabryRox]

Phil , do you stick to ethpool for Eth mining ?

yes as I like the shot at uncles.  I got one the other day


http://ethpool.org/miners/3ef297e47404a771139472b93621f82c8a832857/blocks

Do you consider PASC mining ? I noticed this is available with Claymore Dual mining now.

Yeah I saw that Claymore added Pascal support but I don't know much about that coin.  Not sure what the profitability currently is but I would imagine it would difficult to match DCR right now since 1 is at 20 cents and the other at $2.50.  But, certainly might be worth some hashes for those that feel PASC may rise.  Since turning my 6-GPU rig onto ETH + DCR, I've been getting about 1 DCR per day, which has been a rather nice $2-$2.50/day on top of ETH profits. Has definitely been worth the extra 100w or so it requires vs solo ETH mining.

[GabryRox]

Hey guys... are any of you using or looked into the Baikal Mini miner?  With the recent skyrocketing of Dash price, seems like a good investment to get a few of these as the ROI period at current rates is less than 3 months.  Any ideas about this or first hand experiences in regard to reliability of these units?  Also, have you ordered directly from Baikal?  They seem to have the lowest price at $300 but not sure about shipping.

One of the guys in my group is a big DASH supporter. And he has invested in several models of Baikal miners. I have 2 racks of his ASICs in my warehouse which I help him host the gear. Singles 150Mhs. Quads 600Mhs. Giant 900MHs (this miner is a champ and only eats only 200watts - you can attached 5 of these with one 1300 PSU).

Total hashpower 25GHs currently pulling about 300$-400$ per day. There was a period where daily-takings is double if you sell the hash to NH because some jokers paid premium to eat-up the entire X11 hash supply in US and Europe. I smell a P&P.

However, without going into P&P speculations, as long as we get paid more per submitted hash over normal PPS -- no worries. His entire 25Ghs worth of gear takes about 8 months ROI according to him -- he is about just over halfway to ROI minus expenses etc. He said he is lucky to have bought them at the right time because of the massive surge of DASH and X11 coins (Baikal's X11 miners can also do multi algo and auto-swicth, X13, X14, X15, Quark and Qubit algos).

Note: I asked him about what if X11 is no longer profitable and he is stuck with the ASICs... his reply, convert it into a large global node for DASH and collect tx fees. I kind of agree with him because DASH is one of the 3 grand daddies of crypto (BTC, DASH and LTC)... and it survived just like BTC. Like Phil's says.... BTC needs the other stronger coins in the crypto super highway.

Thanks Citronik, I really appreciate those details! I have been ASIC resistant mainly due to what Phil talked about but this might be a decent opportunity.  I certainly could see getting like 1-2 of the mini's since at $300 or $600, it's not a horrendous amount to risk and seems to have good upside possibilities.  The thing I am a still struggling with though is the expected ROI period for these. 3-4 months is a no-brainer for me but 7-8 is a different story.  I know you mentioned your friends ROI was about 8 months, but was that before the recent surge in Dash price? 

Yesterday I was comparing projections at coinwarez and cryptocompare and they were way off... like $4.50 vs $2.00 ppd.  This is what got me confused but when I just check them both again right now they are very close... $2.51 vs $2.35 ppd.  So, assuming about $330 landed cost per Baikal mini, that's about 4 months to ROI under current conditions.  I've got an e-mail out to Baikal CS about shipping costs and a few other things so hoping to hear back from them tonight since it's just now Monday morning in China.  If shipping for 2 units is the same as for 1, I may just get 2 and see how things go.

The thing I do like about these are that they seem more like FPGAs vs true ASICs since they have the capability of mining other algorithms. And in addition, what you friend said about transitioning to node mode after Dash is mined out is very intriguing. I need to educate myself of that aspect of it though as it seems I would need much more than 1-2 minis to get into that side.

[insider00]

Hello Guys,

I want to ask is that stale share percentage in screenshot is that fine or i have problem with that ?
and if there's any problem, how can i fix it ?

I use Edited BIOS + Wattool .

https://i.imgur.com/AoStNOX.jpg

[philipma1957]

Hello Guys,

I want to ask is that stale share percentage in screenshot is fine or i have problem with that ?

what are you mining  seems to be a bit higher then I get for eth coin  but is close to normal for Zec


I came here to post I sold 2.6 btc today.  we got to 1194 a coin and I said fuck it.

I hope I am wrong and it goes to 2000 a coin.

[insider00]

Hello Guys,

I want to ask is that stale share percentage in screenshot is fine or i have problem with that ?

https://i.imgur.com/AoStNOX.jpg

what are you mining  seems to be a bit higher then I get for eth coin  but is close to normal for Zec


I came here to post I sold 2.6 btc today.  we got to 1194 a coin and I said fuck it.

I hope I am wrong and it goes to 2000 a coin.

Mining Ethereum + Pascal Using Claymore

are your Cards Bios Edited and using under voltage ?

and there's any idea about how to fix it ?

Well Yeah we all hope btc jump to like 10000$ you know !

Thanks !

[citronick]

Hello Guys,

I want to ask is that stale share percentage in screenshot is fine or i have problem with that ?

what are you mining  seems to be a bit higher then I get for eth coin  but is close to normal for Zec


I came here to post I sold 2.6 btc today.  we got to 1194 a coin and I said fuck it.

I hope I am wrong and it goes to 2000 a coin.

from the grapevines.... this 2nd wave will push BTC to 1500 and depending on SEC ruling on listing of the world's first BTC ETF by the Winklevoss twins on March 11, it will hit 3000-3200... thats according to my contact at Blue Horseshoe

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/24/bitcoin-hits-record-high-above-1200-on-talk-of-etf-approval.html

[deadsix]

Hello Guys,

I want to ask is that stale share percentage in screenshot is that fine or i have problem with that ?
and if there's any problem, how can i fix it ?

I use Edited BIOS + Wattool .

Stale shares over 2% usually indicate too much overclock. Personally I wouldn't worry unless it goes to 5%, if that happens lower clocks/up volts by a small amount and observe for 24h.

[Jastetad]

Hello Guys,

I want to ask is that stale share percentage in screenshot is that fine or i have problem with that ?
and if there's any problem, how can i fix it ?

I use Edited BIOS + Wattool .

Stale shares over 2% usually indicate too much overclock. Personally I wouldn't worry unless it goes to 5%, if that happens lower clocks/up volts by a small amount and observe for 24h.

I think it is more related to too high intensity.

[HerbPean]

Phil , do you stick to ethpool for Eth mining ?

yes as I like the shot at uncles.  I got one the other day


http://ethpool.org/miners/3ef297e47404a771139472b93621f82c8a832857/blocks

I got one, too, the other day.  It was 4.33 ETH! And I got the standard ~5 ETH on top of it

I once got a double uncle ...

14.xx ETH

[HerbPean]

Hello Guys,

I want to ask is that stale share percentage in screenshot is fine or i have problem with that ?

what are you mining  seems to be a bit higher then I get for eth coin  but is close to normal for Zec


I came here to post I sold 2.6 btc today.  we got to 1194 a coin and I said fuck it.

I hope I am wrong and it goes to 2000 a coin.

I also sold one. 1600 in Can ... about 1216 in US. It even went up to 1650 Can ... great prenium price on https://www.quadrigacx.com/trade

[philipma1957]

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I came here to post I sold 2.6 btc today.  we got to 1194 a coin and I said fuck it.

I hope I am wrong and it goes to 2000 a coin.

I also sold one. 1600 in Can ... about 1216 in US. It even went up to 1650 Can ... great prenium price on https://www.quadrigacx.com/trade

Yeah I did not feel like cashing , but I try to keep GEAR /COIN/ CASH   at 40% 20% 40%

right now after sale I am 9k gear   8k coin  6.6k cash

[GabryRox]

What a weekend! Instead of doing my taxes like i promised myself, I ended up committing to build a 3rd mining rig and purchasing a Baikal Mini Miner! Really excited to see what that can do as at current prices of Dash, ROI time seems minimal at about 4 months. But either way, no huge risk since it only costs $333 landed.

Now to my 3rd mining rig... this will be a nearly identical build as my rig #2, 6 GPUs on a ASRock BTC Pro r2.0 Mobo. However, due to things I have learned in this forum, I am able to build this for about 20% less than the last rig, which is a rather large step towards shorter ROI time.  The key areas I was able to save this time were:

- GPUs:  got 4 used MSI 470's from Phil & the 2 new ones will only be $165 each after rebate. Lucky timing with that since it's the end of the month... ordered 1 yesterday and will order the 2nd on Wed march 1st so that both will be eligible for rebates.  Savings total here is about $250-$275.

- CPU:  rig #2 had a 4790K that I paid about $175 for. While this was good for some extra XMR hash power (about 300 Mh/s) while that rig was mining XMR, it never got CPU XMR mining to work in conjunction with ETH + DCR mining... and even if I could, I don't have enough comfortable headroom on my PSU to add the extra 50w for CPU XMR mining anyway... so, decided to just go with a $72 Intel G3258 for rig #3, saving about $100.

- RAM:  learned from feedback here that I really don't need 2x8 GB RAM like both my other rigs have, so lowered that to 2x4 GB and saved about $35 there.

Unfortunately, the Quark 1200w PSU i need shot up to $185 (got it for $120 last time) so I lost out there. Tracked that thing for 2 months but it was at $165 for a while then $185 and has not moved at all. I also had to buy a monitor for this rig while I was able to use an old monitor I had laying around for rig #2. I know I technically could go headless but I found a decent monitor for only $60 so figured that wasnt a bad deal for the peace of mind of not hassling with a headless setup. All in all, a net savings of about $350-$400 vs rig #2 so I am pretty happy with that.

In addition to costing less, this rig should also be around 10-15% more efficient than rig #2. The reason for this is that rig #2 has 1 Nitro 8GB 470 (along with 5 MSI 470 4GB).  While i have strap-modded and under-volted all 5 MSIs, I was never able to find solid enough data to risk doing the same to the Nitro. So, as it stands, it is under-hashing vs the MSIs and also pulling more wattage. That rig is sucking about 970-980w doing ETH + DCR, but with 6 modded MSIs in rig #3, I expect to get that down around 920 or so. Plus, I will gain hashrate on both ETH & DCR. 

Once up and running, this should be my final full rig (although I did say that after rig #2 lol). Although, I would consider getting additional Baikals if that experiment goes well. Luckily, I'm in Oregon with a cool/mild climate, so over-heating in the summer is no big concern. In fact, I know for sure that running my 2 current rigs has saved me at least a little on heating so far this winter. Not enough to offset 100% of the extra electricity charge but certainly enough to at least make a dent in it. The other thing I am doing with rig#3 is to make it fully mobile so I can move to different rooms depending on time of year.  Rig #2 is almost there but would need to do a bit of work on it before being able to move it. Rig #1 is not mobile at all (learned a lot since then) but it's home is in the garage anyway so not a concern there.

Anyway, thanks to all that have helped educate me on building rigs. I am by no means an expert but really appreciated all the feedback and suggestion I have got from this forum and especially this thread!

[philipma1957]

What a weekend! Instead of doing my taxes like i promised myself, I ended up committing to build a 3rd mining rig and purchasing a Baikal Mini Miner! Really excited to see what that can do as at current prices of Dash, ROI time seems minimal at about 4 months. But either way, no huge risk since it only costs $333 landed.

Now to my 3rd mining rig... this will be a nearly identical build as my rig #2, 6 GPUs on a ASRock BTC Pro r2.0 Mobo. However, due to things I have learned in this forum, I am able to build this for about 20% less than the last rig, which is a rather large step towards shorter ROI time.  The key areas I was able to save this time were:

- GPUs:  got 4 used MSI 470's from Phil & the 2 new ones will only be $165 each after rebate. Lucky timing with that since it's the end of the month... ordered 1 yesterday and will order the 2nd on Wed march 1st so that both will be eligible for rebates.  Savings total here is about $250-$275.

- CPU:  rig #2 had a 4790K that I paid about $175 for. While this was good for some extra XMR hash power (about 300 Mh/s) while that rig was mining XMR, it never got CPU XMR mining to work in conjunction with ETH + DCR mining... and even if I could, I don't have enough comfortable headroom on my PSU to add the extra 50w for CPU XMR mining anyway... so, decided to just go with a $72 Intel G3258 for rig #3, saving about $100.

- RAM:  learned from feedback here that I really don't need 2x8 GB RAM like both my other rigs have, so lowered that to 2x4 GB and saved about $35 there.

Unfortunately, the Quark 1200w PSU i need shot up to $185 (got it for $120 last time) so I lost out there. Tracked that thing for 2 months but it was at $165 for a while then $185 and has not moved at all. I also had to buy a monitor for this rig while I was able to use an old monitor I had laying around for rig #2. I know I technically could go headless but I found a decent monitor for only $60 so figured that wasnt a bad deal for the peace of mind of not hassling with a headless setup. All in all, a net savings of about $350-$400 vs rig #2 so I am pretty happy with that.

In addition to costing less, this rig should also be around 10-15% more efficient than rig #2. The reason for this is that rig #2 has 1 Nitro 8GB 470 (along with 5 MSI 470 4GB).  While i have strap-modded and under-volted all 5 MSIs, I was never able to find solid enough data to risk doing the same to the Nitro. So, as it stands, it is under-hashing vs the MSIs and also pulling more wattage. That rig is sucking about 970-980w doing ETH + DCR, but with 6 modded MSIs in rig #3, I expect to get that down around 920 or so. Plus, I will gain hashrate on both ETH & DCR.  

Once up and running, this should be my final full rig (although I did say that after rig #2 lol). Although, I would consider getting additional Baikals if that experiment goes well. Luckily, I'm in Oregon with a cool/mild climate, so over-heating in the summer is no big concern. In fact, I know for sure that running my 2 current rigs has saved me at least a little on heating so far this winter. Not enough to offset 100% of the extra electricity charge but certainly enough to at least make a dent in it. The other thing I am doing with rig#3 is to make it fully mobile so I can move to different rooms depending on time of year.  Rig #2 is almost there but would need to do a bit of work on it before being able to move it. Rig #1 is not mobile at all (learned a lot since then) but it's home is in the garage anyway so not a concern there.

Anyway, thanks to all that have helped educate me on building rigs. I am by no means an expert but really appreciated all the feedback and suggestion I have got from this forum and especially this thread!

I try to keep my threads pleasant as I can.  we  alt coin miners need to cooperate more then we do .

My concept is the more the merrier as steady gpu purchases encourage major companies such as :

Intel
AMD
NVIDIA
Corsair
EVGA
SEASONIC
ASUS
ASROCK
BIOSTAR
Kingston
GEIL


 to continue to support alt coins.

MY personal choice is no asic except btc

but I do understand the temptation to buy an asic x11 miner.

for now I will resist it.


ps AT GABRYOX just dropped off the box at ups ground

[LoneRangir]

- GPUs:  got 4 used MSI 470's from Phil & the 2 new ones will only be $165 each after rebate. Lucky timing with that since it's the end of the month... ordered 1 yesterday and will order the 2nd on Wed march 1st so that both will be eligible for rebates.  Savings total here is about $250-$275.

What are your plans for the ROMs? I have two of those, and I'm curious if you can hit your power goal with those. I was only able to hit 1020 to 1080 watts on a 1200 watt supply. Not enough head room, it seems.

[GabryRox]

I try to keep my threads pleasant as I can.  we  alt coin miners need to cooperate more then we do .

My concept is the more the merrier as steady gpu purchases encourage major companies such as :

Intel
AMD
NVIDIA
Corsair
EVGA
SEASONIC
ASUS
ASROCK
BIOSTAR
Kingston
GEIL


 to continue to support alt coins.

MY personal choice is no asic except btc

but I do understand the temptation to buy an asic x11 miner.

for now I will resist it.


ps AT GABRYOX just dropped off the box at ups ground

Thank Phil! Can't wait to get that 3rd rig up!

And yes, these threads are easily the friendliest I've seen on this forum. Several others I've been on people are very reluctant to help or give any info at all, which I guess is why i usually gravitate here for even semi-off-topic issues lol.

[vg54dett]

Hey guys... are any of you using or looked into the Baikal Mini miner?  With the recent skyrocketing of Dash price, seems like a good investment to get a few of these as the ROI period at current rates is less than 3 months.  Any ideas about this or first hand experiences in regard to reliability of these units?  Also, have you ordered directly from Baikal?  They seem to have the lowest price at $300 but not sure about shipping.

One of the guys in my group is a big DASH supporter. And he has invested in several models of Baikal miners. I have 2 racks of his ASICs in my warehouse which I help him host the gear. Singles 150Mhs. Quads 600Mhs. Giant 900MHs (this miner is a champ and only eats only 200watts - you can attached 5 of these with one 1300 PSU).

Total hashpower 25GHs currently pulling about 300$-400$ per day. There was a period where daily-takings is double if you sell the hash to NH because some jokers paid premium to eat-up the entire X11 hash supply in US and Europe. I smell a P&P.

However, without going into P&P speculations, as long as we get paid more per submitted hash over normal PPS -- no worries. His entire 25Ghs worth of gear takes about 8 months ROI according to him -- he is about just over halfway to ROI minus expenses etc. He said he is lucky to have bought them at the right time because of the massive surge of DASH and X11 coins (Baikal's X11 miners can also do multi algo and auto-swicth, X13, X14, X15, Quark and Qubit algos).

Note: I asked him about what if X11 is no longer profitable and he is stuck with the ASICs... his reply, convert it into a large global node for DASH and collect tx fees. I kind of agree with him because DASH is one of the 3 grand daddies of crypto (BTC, DASH and LTC)... and it survived just like BTC. Like Phil's says.... BTC needs the other stronger coins in the crypto super highway.

+1 this, baikal giants are legit, let me know if yall need any

are you selling ?

[philipma1957]

I try to keep my threads pleasant as I can.  we  alt coin miners need to cooperate more then we do .

My concept is the more the merrier as steady gpu purchases encourage major companies such as :

Intel
AMD
NVIDIA
Corsair
EVGA
SEASONIC
ASUS
ASROCK
BIOSTAR
Kingston
GEIL


 to continue to support alt coins.

MY personal choice is no asic except btc

but I do understand the temptation to buy an asic x11 miner.

for now I will resist it.


ps AT GABRYOX just dropped off the box at ups ground

Thank Phil! Can't wait to get that 3rd rig up!

And yes, these threads are easily the friendliest I've seen on this forum. Several others I've been on people are very reluctant to help or give any info at all, which I guess is why i usually gravitate here for even semi-off-topic issues lol.

Did you see the older total recall movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger

Where he just opens the air on mars to everyone for free?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100802/

I go that route with coins  meaning let the stuff breath and flow.  

Don't be like Scrooge was  be like what he turned into.

Which if you look at the two movies Arnold also becomes a better guy.

Of course I stay at coins at a hobby level so I can do this.

Hey  I cam to the thread to ask about mining on smOS

I want to do eth and pasc



this is working for eth only

-epool stratum+tcp://us1.ethpool.org:3333 -ewal 0x3ef297e47404a771139472b93621f82c8a832857.Simple -esm 0 -epsw x -allpools 1 -mport -3333


below is my pasc info  so wtf do I do?

PASC   
Your PascalCoin Payload
d3c2c1e866a79ef4

You MUST send your deposit using the unique Payload above. Failure to do so may result in the loss of your deposit.
Poloniex's PascalCoin deposit address
86646-64
Show QR Code

[GabryRox]

- GPUs:  got 4 used MSI 470's from Phil & the 2 new ones will only be $165 each after rebate. Lucky timing with that since it's the end of the month... ordered 1 yesterday and will order the 2nd on Wed march 1st so that both will be eligible for rebates.  Savings total here is about $250-$275.

What are your plans for the ROMs? I have two of those, and I'm curious if you can hit your power goal with those. I was only able to hit 1020 to 1080 watts on a 1200 watt supply. Not enough head room, it seems.

Hi Lone... so, I just plan on doing the standard strap-1500 bios mod on the MSI 470's. Well, at least for the 4 that Phil is sending me since those are all hynix memory.  For the 2 new ones I'm getting from Amazon, I will either do the 1500-strap (if hynix) or the 1750-strap (if Samsung). Both are exactly the same process, except of course for coping the timings for 1500 as your base vs 1750.  The one MSI 470 i have with Samsung worked perfectly doing the 1750 strap, so at least I am prepared for either scenario.

I'm pretty sure that the lone Nitro on rig #2 is accounting for about 40-60 extra watts since it is not modded and only very slightly under-volted vs its factory settings.  It comes factory over-clocked at 2000 Mhz but also with a default +4 in the voltage offset. I usually override that to 0, which saves a bit of W but that's not anywhere near my average offset per modded MSI 470.  I am relatively lucky on this rig in that I have been able to under-volt 4 of the 5 MSIs by average -18 offset (2 at -19 and 2 and -17). The 5th is only -8 because of lower factory defaults in stage 7.  Of course, this is always the crap-shoot. Will have to wait and see what the factory numbers are on the 6 for me new rig but hoping for reasonably close to the ones I have on rig #2.

The other thing I should mention (and this could be why we differ in total wattage) is that I dialed back the over-clock on all 6 cards on rig#2. I currently have the MSI set at 1125/1925 and the Nitro at 1225/1950.  This is about 25-35 Mhz lower than I CAN do on this rig per card, but at those clocks, it was pushing 1050w, which i am not comfortable with long-term. After backing the clock speeds down I was able to get it under 1000w in dual mode. I really only lost about 5 Mhz total hash-rate on ETH (160 vs 165), so it seemed a decent trade-off for me... about a 3% reduction in h/r but 5% reduction in power consumption.