Third alt coin thread last two were too big. Builds links thoughts etc

[citronick]

What is the power consumption mining ZEC for nanos / furys compared to rx400?! I remember those furys are monsters?

If not mistaken, Fury X and Fury X Plus (Nitro?) -- these are massive full length cards -- comes with its own "radiator" like cooling system.

The Nanos, however are shorter and single fan cards but with 64 compute cores and HBM memory. Amazingly footprint - I guess it must have been designed for HTPC or small chassis gaming PCs.

Wattage at stock I think 200watts vs RX480's 150watts. Anwyays, I have free custom roms from Eliovp for the Nano for low power ZEC mining - customised for Optiminer.

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[citronick]

Phil -- does mining ETH from ethpool to Coinbase ETH account still works?

I know ethpool to Poloniex works but I want to skip a step and go direct to Coinbase.

Thanks

It still works. I mine with 700Mh on ethpool (26 RX4xx cards) and get a block (5 ETH) every 3-4 days directly into my coinbase ETH account.

Thanks for the confirmation - so it stills works then.

I had another power trip today after switching to mine ETH, I had to lower the intensity to "li 10" - which is an awful waste of the hash power. Mining ZEC or XMR is no problem. The other hard way out, I think is to continue to mine ZEC or XMR and exchange it for ETH at shapeshift.io .... decision decision...

[xleejohnx]

Phil -- does mining ETH from ethpool to Coinbase ETH account still works?

I know ethpool to Poloniex works but I want to skip a step and go direct to Coinbase.

Thanks

It still works. I mine with 700Mh on ethpool (26 RX4xx cards) and get a block (5 ETH) every 3-4 days directly into my coinbase ETH account.

Thanks for the confirmation - so it stills works then.

I had another power trip today after switching to mine ETH, I had to lower the intensity to "li 10" - which is an awful waste of the hash power. Mining ZEC or XMR is no problem. The other hard way out, I think is to continue to mine ZEC or XMR and exchange it for ETH at shapeshift.io .... decision decision...

im all about selling hash right now
i have 19 cards atm 3-5 card rigs 1-4 card rig
i divided them between zec and eth at nicehash
ive been killing it for a few days now 44-50$ a day!!

[citronick]

Phil -- does mining ETH from ethpool to Coinbase ETH account still works?

I know ethpool to Poloniex works but I want to skip a step and go direct to Coinbase.

Thanks

It still works. I mine with 700Mh on ethpool (26 RX4xx cards) and get a block (5 ETH) every 3-4 days directly into my coinbase ETH account.

Thanks for the confirmation - so it stills works then.

I had another power trip today after switching to mine ETH, I had to lower the intensity to "li 10" - which is an awful waste of the hash power. Mining ZEC or XMR is no problem. The other hard way out, I think is to continue to mine ZEC or XMR and exchange it for ETH at shapeshift.io .... decision decision...

im all about selling hash right now
i have 19 cards atm 3-5 card rigs 1-4 card rig
i divided them between zec and eth at nicehash
ive been killing it for a few days now 44-50$ a day!!

I told you so.... there's a lot of crazy buyers out there.

I am still wondering why - if calculate using the coin calculator they are paying more than what they get from pool mining rewards.

[citronick]

I am posting this for sharing because I think it will impact all of us since Bitcoin is in the centrestage of all of our alts mining activities now. I am posting my comments only here in Phil's thread because self-moderates the thread....

Just came back from a Bitcoin local chapter talk with guest speaker Andreas Antonopoulos, and lo and behold Vitalik Buterin in the audience. I wanted to ask about the Segwit vs BU issue in Q&A, and well I didnt have to -- Andreas jump straight into it.

Very interesting talk about cultural gap between software mindset vs hardware mindset -- hence this battle between Segwit and BU, how Bitcoin is going to survive a hard fork and the emergence of a new platform that comverge software and hardware and maintains the glory of decentralization, ie. Trustware.

The video of the talk should be up in Andreas's Youtube channel in a few hours.

My team had a meeting after the talk and we decided on some contingencies, pending Segwit vs BU bloodbath around "a few weeks before October". We will be investing more on GPU mining and Ethereum. Btw, will move the 2PH BTC farm into rental market before the war starts. When things gets risky and volatile, it's better to rent, sell the picks and shovels to goldminers than to mine the gold yourself - think Levis Strauss.

OK - thats enough yadda2 for the day. Watch the video and make your own decisions.

link to video please.

Well ... there is no video yet but a reporter did cover the event ... see link below for keypoints.

https://disruptive.asia/bitcoin-forking-debate/

[ummxlied]

Can you post picture of the rig's gpus?

[GabryRox]

I still don't quite grasp how selling hash to nicehash seems to me much more profitable for many of you here. I get the concept but in doing the math for x11 Dash for instance, i see almost identical $ returns for selling vs mining.

Here's my math:  for today, it seems NH paying about .032 BTC per GH per day for x11 hash. at BTC avg of $1,080... that should be just about $34.50 in BTC per day.  My mini provides 150 MH, so that equates to about $5.15 per day in BTC using nicehash.

But... I am consistently getting .05 Dash per day with that mini... with Dash at $100, that also equates to $5/day.  So, what am I missing?  I've already mentioned that since I am still in the accumulation phase of mining alts, I'm not really interested in mining directly to BTC anyway, but certainly do it if that was a large margin better, then just convert that BTC to what ever alt i wanted... but I'm just not seeing it.  Maybe something I am reading wrong off the nicehash site cuz i know the problem can't be my math lol ;-)

[philipma1957]

I still don't quite grasp how selling hash to nicehash seems to me much more profitable for many of you here. I get the concept but in doing the math for x11 Dash for instance, i see almost identical $ returns for selling vs mining.

Here's my math:  for today, it seems NH paying about .032 BTC per GH per day for x11 hash. at BTC avg of $1,080... that should be just about $34.50 in BTC per day.  My mini provides 150 MH, so that equates to about $5.15 per day in BTC using nicehash.

But... I am consistently getting .05 Dash per day with that mini... with Dash at $100, that also equates to $5/day.  So, what am I missing?  I've already mentioned that since I am still in the accumulation phase of mining alts, I'm not really interested in mining directly to BTC anyway, but certainly do it if that was a large margin better, then just convert that BTC to what ever alt i wanted... but I'm just not seeing it.  Maybe something I am reading wrong off the nicehash site cuz i know the problem can't be my math lol ;-)

can't do it without doing it. ?

IE    run it for 24 days and see what you get.



There are more complicated methods of mining  but here is one

point all your gear at nicehash  and check your daily  btc every hour on the hour   in my case 0.0427
see below

[philipma1957]

Sorry  but I want two post in a row.

so if 80.8th is an s-9 at .11 watts a gh that is 8888 watts per hour  this is $21.33 for $47.43

while my gpu is spending  2880 watts per hour  that is $6.91 for .0427 each day  or $6.91 for 47.43

translation   mine 2 days  any way you want to accumulate  alt coins

 mine 2 days all nicehash to get btc  sell ½ the btc

this means  you get :

alt coins
btc coins
cash

in theory  it is

50% alt
25% btc
25% cash

it is a very simple method to follow and gives you nice easy hedge. 


see how much th  is need for .0427 btc

comes to 80.81

[QuintLeo]

I still don't quite grasp how selling hash to nicehash seems to me much more profitable for many of you here. I get the concept but in doing the math for x11 Dash for instance, i see almost identical $ returns for selling vs mining.

Here's my math:  for today, it seems NH paying about .032 BTC per GH per day for x11 hash. at BTC avg of $1,080... that should be just about $34.50 in BTC per day.  My mini provides 150 MH, so that equates to about $5.15 per day in BTC using nicehash.

But... I am consistently getting .05 Dash per day with that mini... with Dash at $100, that also equates to $5/day.  So, what am I missing?  I've already mentioned that since I am still in the accumulation phase of mining alts, I'm not really interested in mining directly to BTC anyway, but certainly do it if that was a large margin better, then just convert that BTC to what ever alt i wanted... but I'm just not seeing it.  Maybe something I am reading wrong off the nicehash site cuz i know the problem can't be my math lol ;-)

 In my experience with NiceHash, the average bid for hashrate ends up being *USUALLY BUT NOT ALWAYS* a little higher than that hashrate actually yields.
 It does vary a lot short-term though, and there are times longterm when you're better off mining for yourself.
 It also varies a lot depending on the specific coin being mined when you mine foryourself.

 Also, don't forget to factor in fees on both sides of the comparison.

[QuintLeo]

What is the power consumption mining ZEC for nanos / furys compared to rx400?! I remember those furys are monsters?

If not mistaken, Fury X and Fury X Plus (Nitro?) -- these are massive full length cards -- comes with its own "radiator" like cooling system.

The Nanos, however are shorter and single fan cards but with 64 compute cores and HBM memory. Amazingly footprint - I guess it must have been designed for HTPC or small chassis gaming PCs.

Wattage at stock I think 200watts vs RX480's 150watts. Anwyays, I have free custom roms from Eliovp for the Nano for low power ZEC mining - customised for Optiminer.

 Fury and Fury X were full length cards, the Nano is basicallt a "short" furyX, slightly lower clock and single fan compared to the same model from the same maker normally but pretty close to a "full furyX" in performance.

 Closest thing I know of in a CURRENT card to them is the Gigabyte "ITX" model of the GTX 1070 - I am amazed nobody else has a competative card to that one after all these months.

[citronick]

I still don't quite grasp how selling hash to nicehash seems to me much more profitable for many of you here. I get the concept but in doing the math for x11 Dash for instance, i see almost identical $ returns for selling vs mining.

Here's my math:  for today, it seems NH paying about .032 BTC per GH per day for x11 hash. at BTC avg of $1,080... that should be just about $34.50 in BTC per day.  My mini provides 150 MH, so that equates to about $5.15 per day in BTC using nicehash.

But... I am consistently getting .05 Dash per day with that mini... with Dash at $100, that also equates to $5/day.  So, what am I missing?  I've already mentioned that since I am still in the accumulation phase of mining alts, I'm not really interested in mining directly to BTC anyway, but certainly do it if that was a large margin better, then just convert that BTC to what ever alt i wanted... but I'm just not seeing it.  Maybe something I am reading wrong off the nicehash site cuz i know the problem can't be my math lol ;-)

can't do it without doing it. ?

IE    run it for 24 days and see what you get.



There are more complicated methods of mining  but here is one

point all your gear at nicehash  and check your daily  btc every hour on the hour   in my case 0.0427
see below
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Also, certain hours of early morning US time - past midnight my time -- I see surged payrate for about an hour; just last night I saw our 25GH X11 farm getting 0.9 BTC payrate... after an hour or so... dropped to 0.745 BTC.

Although renting/mining may end up to be the same, renters still win a few greenbacks every now and then, when coins are hot (like NOW), because I think someone paid high premium to get 1 hour of 100GHs for who knows what. Saw some crazy surge for ZEC too.

Sure reminds me of renting SHA256 hash to chase blocks at kano or trying out a lucky roll at solo.ckpool -- the good ole days.

@Quintleo - I have been monitoring the X11 farm for several weeks now, and I think if I mined at a DASH pool, after x confirmation, transfer to wallet or Polo, then to Coinbase if I want to cash out -- this whole process is worth the 3% NH is charging. Unless you are collecting DASH coins, then thats an entire different story all together - NH is the wrong strategy.

@Quintleo - in the ZEC forum, some dude showcased his 6 x 1070 rig mining ZEC with EWBF miner with amazingly huge sols. I think NVIDIA got this right with ZEC mining - not too sure about the rest of algos.

[philipma1957]

I got this email today from pandaminer:


The pandaminer B3plus Pre-order!
Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:16 AM
From:
"official" <official@pandaminer.com>
To:
"philipxxxxxxx" <philipxxxxxxx@yahoo.com>

Hey,
How is it going ?  

The next batch will be opened at 20:00 on Thursday (GMT+8) !

Best Regards






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I just woke up in NJ  so what time is:

 20:00 on Thursday (GMT+8)  

in EST

I think below is correct


20:00 GMT is 8:00pm GMT

which is 4:00PM EST

+ 8  means 11:59 PM EST    well really midnight


https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/gmt-to-est-converter

[xleejohnx]

I got this email today from pandaminer:


The pandaminer B3plus Pre-order!
Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:16 AM
From:
"official" <official@pandaminer.com>
To:
"philipxxxxxxx" <philipxxxxxxx@yahoo.com>

Hey,
How is it going ?  

The next batch will be opened at 20:00 on Thursday (GMT+8) !

Best Regards






------------------
PandaMiner Service

TEL: +86 755 8670 7660
E-mail: official@pandaminer.com
Facebook: PandaMiner
Twitter: @PandaMiner_
QQ Group:470977519
 


I just woke up in NJ  so what time is:

 20:00 on Thursday (GMT+8)  

in EST

I think below is correct


20:00 GMT is 8:00pm GMT

which is 4:00PM EST

+ 8  means 11:59 PM EST    well really midnight


https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/gmt-to-est-converter

im not sure if i want one or not

[vg54dett]

With simplemining , do we need to do something about the usual following commands ?

setx GPU_FORCE_64BIT_PTR 0
setx GPU_MAX_HEAP_SIZE 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_SINGLE_ALLOC_PERCENT 100

[citronick]

With simplemining , do we need to do something about the usual following commands ?

setx GPU_FORCE_64BIT_PTR 0
setx GPU_MAX_HEAP_SIZE 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_SINGLE_ALLOC_PERCENT 100

I think this is only a Windows thing.

However, "GPU_SINGLE_ALLOC_PERCENT 100" is needed in smOS, and Tytanick has already included that line in in the last few version.

[vg54dett]

mining become simple ! 

[citronick]

mining become simple ! 
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I think "simple" is an understatement... its stability of Linux that impresses me 

And most of all.... no bloody WIN10 forced updates!

[philipma1957]

mining become simple ! 
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I think "simple" is an understatement... its stability of Linux that impresses me 

And most of all.... no bloody WIN10 forced updates!

I am going to toss some coin at him today.

[vg54dett]

I used to achieve 27mh/s eth mining with modded rx470 and windows.
Now with simplemining the GPUs are hard to achieve 25mh/s , even playing with OC feature.
Is that normal with SM ? or should I "dig" the point ?