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Author Topic: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite - NEW Thread | 1st mini-blockchain coin | Bounties!  (Read 155024 times)
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June 29, 2017, 11:33:46 PM
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So, my hashrate is 44mh/s -small equipment- according to whattomine.com I should be mining 27 coins per hour but actually Iäm getting just 18 per hour.. Idk, what could be the reason for that? is it the pool?

thanks,

From where you take that hashrate? Miner or pool side? Thats big difference. How typed pallas whattomine cannot count with orphans, pool luck, diff and other factors.

Those are the readings of the miner. I don't trust suprnova because it shows obviously wrong hashrates. I mean right now it says 63 mh/s and I'm pretty sure 4 GTX 1060 can't do that. I just wanna know if I'm missing something. ist it normal to have such difference -40%- between expectations and results?

something is wrong with suprnova.
with 4 nvidia 1070 local hashrate is around 46mh.
pool hashrate vary between 16 and 63mh.
estimation on statistic/pool 41,881mh    982.268XCN/day
earning Last Hour    13.63484121, that make 327 XCN/day
3 times lower than estimated.
about 7 hours of mining, for test, and 1/3 of expected gain.
i will let them mine for a whole day, but i do not think will be better.


I just calculated the earnings from the last day. exactly 400 XCN/day with reported hashrate from CCminer 43-45.5 mh/s. the estimations were actually 640 XCN/day. Well, the stratum connection goes off sometime but I always keep an eye on it. I don't think the total time offline would more than half an hour during the whole day. still the profit from XCN is higher than ethereum though but I'm a bit disappointed.

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June 29, 2017, 11:41:09 PM
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The numbers go along with what I am experiencing.
The projection do not match the actual.
I bring in about 60% to 80% of what should be mined

From the looks of things, taking three guesses:
- There are a number of disconnects that occur, and thus actual mining performance suffers.
- The pool running on Suprnova is experiencing high CPU rates (based on the posting history).
- This of course is the only public pool, which the system's resources may be at limits with the number of mining functions being performed.

I am looking at getting a pool running and documented of "How To", but the current available documentation is lacking, and no one seems to be willing to share the information of how to do this. So, I am exploring a couple of options to jump start it, while going through the codes.

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June 30, 2017, 12:00:02 AM
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First of all I'd like to say that altcoins, especially those developed years ago, are supposed to be experiments.
The best that comes out from them, might be imported into the "main" coins like bitcoin.
The best ones may get market acceptance but that is really hard, as there are many coins and even bitcoin itself still has a long way to go, in this department.
XCN is experimental in nature, there is a lot of innovation, and despite that, it is still running fine as of today.
I'm pretty sure that catia, the original developer, didn't hope for a life so long of his coin ;-)
About regulation against mining and other consensus methods, well, maybe it's a bit offtopic but we can still talk about it, as a possible future development for XCN.
I do agree... and what I find odd, is how there are values to these coins.
I have Coin A and someone has Coin B. Neither one is really any different from the other. But Coin B has more value to it than Coin A. And people are willing to trade between the two. It is something that I have a difficult time explaining to people who do not know about crypto currencies.

Aside from the technical aspects, there are unfortunately single point of failures. For XCN, one of which as example, if Suprnova takes its pool off-line, the coin pretty much dies; as it would prevent any new comers for it, and kill off its potential popularity. Then again it could become like Latin, a dead language, but still has use...

For regulation, I am exploring the means of regulating the mining side for coins. The goal is to make mining fun and bring people (general public) into it, seeing as they could earn money from home without working. I see this as one of the key means of getting a coin to be successful. But in order to do so, regulations would be used to ensure 'fairness' (as best as possible) of mining. This I think though will turn some people off, as their identities would have to be validated.

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June 30, 2017, 05:13:13 AM
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and what I find odd, is how there are values to these coins.

Well the same goes for "normal" fiat money. The value comes from people's trust that they get something for the money. Nothing more, nothing less. Normal money is backed by government law forcing every trader to accept that currency as the nominated value and therefore enforcing that trust. That's still lacking for crypto coins.
If a country goes bankrupt, it's actually that promise that's being broken which causes disaster - but it doesn't have to. The far bigger disaster is caused from the fact that every bit of normal money out there is created by debt and therefore every one of us is indirectly paying huge interest rates to those who created the money. And that's unfortunately not the general public / government.

In case of experimental altcoins I would say the trust is more like hope that the coin's innovation might lead to it becoming widely accepted at some stage. The huge advantage of crypto coins is the fact that they're created in a public, open source process and represent value WITHOUT any claims for interest of any party. That's for example the reason why I'm interested in cryptos.
Other people might have different reasons like trust that they will be able to sell it for more of a different coin.

After learning about the nature of money I at least realized that the whole concept is way more abstract than I ever thought. I think misunderstanding the true nature of money is one of the biggest general shortcomings of modern society. Fortunately, bitcoin is changing that at the moment and shows that literally anything can be money, as long as people trust in it. The more trust, the higher the demand and demand vs availability then results in a value.

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June 30, 2017, 05:22:04 AM
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and what I find odd, is how there are values to these coins.
After learning about the nature of money I at least realized that the whole concept is way more abstract than I ever thought.
Ain't that the truth.

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June 30, 2017, 05:28:19 AM
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Made some progress at learning about mining pools...
Have one Pool up using Cryptonote and now for MPOS.
These are not using XCN, however. Still understanding how they work, while looking under the hood of the coding.
I am hoping in a few days to get an internal test pool running.

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June 30, 2017, 08:13:52 AM
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About the suprnova estimates (on pool stats): they are always about double what I actually get, please keep this in mind.

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June 30, 2017, 08:41:19 AM
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Finally found it!

Last week a friend would like to use XCN to exchange my BTC, I have not yet agreed because I was the first time to hear about XCN.

A more question: where to trade XCN? or How do I confirm the price of XCN?
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June 30, 2017, 08:43:03 AM
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Finally found it!

Last week a friend would like to use XCN to exchange my BTC, I have not yet agreed because I was the first time to hear about XCN.

A more question: where to trade XCN? or How do I confirm the price of XCN?

If you look thru the first post of this thread, there is a list of exchanges supporting XCN/BTC and XCN/CNY trading pairs.

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June 30, 2017, 10:25:46 AM
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Back again,

So, my hashrate is 44mh/s -small equipment- according to whattomine.com I should be mining 27 coins per hour but actually Iäm getting just 18 per hour.. Idk, what could be the reason for that? is it the pool?

thanks,

From where you take that hashrate? Miner or pool side? Thats big difference. How typed pallas whattomine cannot count with orphans, pool luck, diff and other factors.

Those are the readings of the miner. I don't trust suprnova because it shows obviously wrong hashrates. I mean right now it says 63 mh/s and I'm pretty sure 4 GTX 1060 can't do that. I just wanna know if I'm missing something. ist it normal to have such difference -40%- between expectations and results?

something is wrong with suprnova.
with 4 nvidia 1070 local hashrate is around 46mh.
pool hashrate vary between 16 and 63mh.
estimation on statistic/pool 41,881mh    982.268XCN/day
earning Last Hour    13.63484121, that make 327 XCN/day
3 times lower than estimated.
about 7 hours of mining, for test, and 1/3 of expected gain.
i will let them mine for a whole day, but i do not think will be better.


with 4 GTX 1070 you should be mining at around 60mh/s I'm having 4 gtx 1060 and already reaching 46 mh/s



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June 30, 2017, 11:01:58 AM
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Back again,

So, my hashrate is 44mh/s -small equipment- according to whattomine.com I should be mining 27 coins per hour but actually Iäm getting just 18 per hour.. Idk, what could be the reason for that? is it the pool?

thanks,

From where you take that hashrate? Miner or pool side? Thats big difference. How typed pallas whattomine cannot count with orphans, pool luck, diff and other factors.

Those are the readings of the miner. I don't trust suprnova because it shows obviously wrong hashrates. I mean right now it says 63 mh/s and I'm pretty sure 4 GTX 1060 can't do that. I just wanna know if I'm missing something. ist it normal to have such difference -40%- between expectations and results?

something is wrong with suprnova.
with 4 nvidia 1070 local hashrate is around 46mh.
pool hashrate vary between 16 and 63mh.
estimation on statistic/pool 41,881mh    982.268XCN/day
earning Last Hour    13.63484121, that make 327 XCN/day
3 times lower than estimated.
about 7 hours of mining, for test, and 1/3 of expected gain.
i will let them mine for a whole day, but i do not think will be better.


with 4 GTX 1070 you should be mining at around 60mh/s I'm having 4 gtx 1060 and already reaching 46 mh/s




and on suprnova? what hashrate have you?
how many xcn in a day? calculated by you, last 24h, not by the pool.
i use win7, what do you use?
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June 30, 2017, 11:41:00 AM
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Back again,

So, my hashrate is 44mh/s -small equipment- according to whattomine.com I should be mining 27 coins per hour but actually Iäm getting just 18 per hour.. Idk, what could be the reason for that? is it the pool?

thanks,

From where you take that hashrate? Miner or pool side? Thats big difference. How typed pallas whattomine cannot count with orphans, pool luck, diff and other factors.

Those are the readings of the miner. I don't trust suprnova because it shows obviously wrong hashrates. I mean right now it says 63 mh/s and I'm pretty sure 4 GTX 1060 can't do that. I just wanna know if I'm missing something. ist it normal to have such difference -40%- between expectations and results?

something is wrong with suprnova.
with 4 nvidia 1070 local hashrate is around 46mh. win 10 anniversary update. CUDA installed and virtual memory adjusted to 20 - 30 GB
pool hashrate vary between 16 and 63mh.
estimation on statistic/pool 41,881mh    982.268XCN/day
earning Last Hour    13.63484121, that make 327 XCN/day
3 times lower than estimated.
about 7 hours of mining, for test, and 1/3 of expected gain.
i will let them mine for a whole day, but i do not think will be better.


with 4 GTX 1070 you should be mining at around 60mh/s I'm having 4 gtx 1060 and already reaching 46 mh/s




and on suprnova? what hashrate have you?
how many xcn in a day? calculated by you, last 24h, not by the pool.
i use win7, what do you use?


The pool is pretty unstable showing values between 35 and 65 mh/s. I get 400 XCN/day

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June 30, 2017, 11:53:25 AM
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Back again,

So, my hashrate is 44mh/s -small equipment- according to whattomine.com I should be mining 27 coins per hour but actually Iäm getting just 18 per hour.. Idk, what could be the reason for that? is it the pool?

thanks,

From where you take that hashrate? Miner or pool side? Thats big difference. How typed pallas whattomine cannot count with orphans, pool luck, diff and other factors.

Those are the readings of the miner. I don't trust suprnova because it shows obviously wrong hashrates. I mean right now it says 63 mh/s and I'm pretty sure 4 GTX 1060 can't do that. I just wanna know if I'm missing something. ist it normal to have such difference -40%- between expectations and results?

something is wrong with suprnova.
with 4 nvidia 1070 local hashrate is around 46mh. win 10 anniversary update. CUDA installed and virtual memory adjusted to 20 - 30 GB
pool hashrate vary between 16 and 63mh.
estimation on statistic/pool 41,881mh    982.268XCN/day
earning Last Hour    13.63484121, that make 327 XCN/day
3 times lower than estimated.
about 7 hours of mining, for test, and 1/3 of expected gain.
i will let them mine for a whole day, but i do not think will be better.


with 4 GTX 1070 you should be mining at around 60mh/s I'm having 4 gtx 1060 and already reaching 46 mh/s




and on suprnova? what hashrate have you?
how many xcn in a day? calculated by you, last 24h, not by the pool.
i use win7, what do you use?


The pool is pretty unstable showing values between 35 and 65 mh/s. I get 400 XCN/day

to see a more stable hashrate (because it is averaged over a longer period) click on "statistics", then "graphs".

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June 30, 2017, 12:56:36 PM
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Back again,

So, my hashrate is 44mh/s -small equipment- according to whattomine.com I should be mining 27 coins per hour but actually Iäm getting just 18 per hour.. Idk, what could be the reason for that? is it the pool?

thanks,

From where you take that hashrate? Miner or pool side? Thats big difference. How typed pallas whattomine cannot count with orphans, pool luck, diff and other factors.

Those are the readings of the miner. I don't trust suprnova because it shows obviously wrong hashrates. I mean right now it says 63 mh/s and I'm pretty sure 4 GTX 1060 can't do that. I just wanna know if I'm missing something. ist it normal to have such difference -40%- between expectations and results?

something is wrong with suprnova.
with 4 nvidia 1070 local hashrate is around 46mh. win 10 anniversary update. CUDA installed and virtual memory adjusted to 20 - 30 GB
pool hashrate vary between 16 and 63mh.
estimation on statistic/pool 41,881mh    982.268XCN/day
earning Last Hour    13.63484121, that make 327 XCN/day
3 times lower than estimated.
about 7 hours of mining, for test, and 1/3 of expected gain.
i will let them mine for a whole day, but i do not think will be better.


with 4 GTX 1070 you should be mining at around 60mh/s I'm having 4 gtx 1060 and already reaching 46 mh/s




and on suprnova? what hashrate have you?
how many xcn in a day? calculated by you, last 24h, not by the pool.
i use win7, what do you use?


The pool is pretty unstable showing values between 35 and 65 mh/s. I get 400 XCN/day

to see a more stable hashrate (because it is averaged over a longer period) click on "statistics", then "graphs".

Thanks, seems like it's averaging around 40 considering the connection drops

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June 30, 2017, 06:17:19 PM
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has anyone heard from ocminer why the pool is always disconnecting?  I see he is active in other coin topics.  It is getting to bad to mine at supernova.

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June 30, 2017, 10:22:28 PM
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Cryptonite Paper Wallet is now available!

I'm right now testing this - looks great and I'd like to use it to gift some xcn to friends.
Which leads me to the question: How does one import a private key into a xcn wallet?

XCN: CJSECkHi7tTTTA1ze9qYRkkUCKfFiF8EEG
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June 30, 2017, 11:59:21 PM
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I'm right now testing this - looks great and I'd like to use it to gift some xcn to friends.
Which leads me to the question: How does one import a private key into a xcn wallet?

I think it should be the same as for any other coin: In the wallet console type "importprivkey "cryptoniteprivkey" "


Can anyone tell the best settings for mining XCN with GTX 1080 Ti?
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July 01, 2017, 05:55:36 AM
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Cryptonite Paper Wallet is now available!
Win 50 XCN!
(see way below)

tl;dr - Download here, run it in a browser on a secure machine, choose Cryptonite, choose wallet type(paper, BIP38 encrypted, brain, bulk), print.

http://i.imgur.com/AgMOpsu.png
http://i.imgur.com/AgMOpsu.png

If you like cold storage, you are going to love a paper wallet!  Working with the maintainer of WalletGenerator.net I was able to create a paper wallet for Cryptonite!

While it isn't live(yet) on WalletGenerator.net, a downloadable version with Cryptonite is.  I have forked it off their current version and made a pull request, so it should be live 'someday'(his words not mine) on their page, but this version will be available until then.

Instructions:
  • Download the zip file
  • Unzip
  • Open the index.html file on a secure machine
  • Wiggle your mouse around
  • Select Cryptonite from the drop down at the top
  • Select Paper(w/BIP38 or w/o), Bulk, or Brain
  • Print

Couple of things to remember/do:
  • RTFM - The index.html has instructions and information.
  • Try it first with some small amounts.
  • Check a chain explorer to validate if coins are present in the wallet.
  • Unless it is BIP38 encrypted, anyone that finds your paper wallet can access steal all of your coin.
  • Brain and BIP38 may require that you come back to this same index.html to recover your (WIF)private key. (could be wrong on this)
  • Once a paper wallet is imported to a live wallet, and any coins spent, the paper wallet will be empty.
  • Best to make a new paper wallet and transfer funds there if it has been imported into a live wallet.
  • They make great gifts!

Learn about it!
Google 'paper wallet bitcoin', or check out the links below.  You will get deeper insight into how crypto really works, and learn how paper wallets can be a HODL'rs best friend.

That's all I got...  Try it out, and let me know what you think.


Acknowledgements: - Please cryptocoin responsibly, and don't forget to tip your developers.

Michael Mure @ WalletGenerator.net on Github  BTC 15DHZzv7eBUwss77qczZiL3DUEZLjDYhbM
Cryptonite Team @ Cryptonite.info  XCN  CP6uhgcDnXzdgQhnz2q1xhSFMFinmqkQkh  (fund address)
tnotm <-- this is me!  Tip me!!  XCN  CPtFmAxGz2RMdp9wumtVyBTPeDQNAV3AsB  (yep, its a cold storage paper wallet... ADL)

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How to win 50 XCN:

Be the first one to tweet a pic of you holding a printed Cryptonite paper wallet.

Rules:
  • Tweet with the earliest timestamp wins
  • Paper wallet must be created from the wallet generator in this post(not just your doodles of your keys)
  • 50 xcn for the winning tweet, from my personal account
  • Tweet must contain the following: a link to this post, hashtags: #Cryptonite #XCN $XCN #paperwallet
  • proof of printing - an image of you with the printed wallet (don't use the wallet you fool, you just shared it with everyone!)
  • PM me the tweet
  • No nudes, this is a family coin... It's up to you really... I don't really mind either way  Shocked
  • This is a unofficial thingy I am doing, not the devs. All on me, because Cryptonite paper wallets rock!

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Thanks so much! Feeling so much better about having my xcn off exchange and on a paper wallet.
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July 01, 2017, 10:09:36 AM
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And.... the pool is down.

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Back to the point.  How big is the blockchain on disk as of today?

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