[ANN][HLM] HELIUM

[szfinx]

Would enjoy hearing more of this?

what would you like to know?

I would like to know where your 5 data-centres are located, which countries and regions?
Do you have the same price regardless the location?

 Bonjour s'il vous plaît j'aimerai savoir je peux me procurer les pièces et quelle est sa valeur actuelle? Merci d'avance

My french is not perfect, but i suspect you are asking about how to participate and the value of the coin.

The best way to participate is to buy SpreadCoin (SPR) in Bittrex and hold it until the snapshot date and join the Slack group for much more info. (link is in the announcement)
The HLM is not out yet, you can buy it only in September, but in the meantime you can buy SPR and you will receive the equal amount of HLM as well.

[grex]

Everyone please be advised, as it doesn't seem to be clear.

THE DATE FOR THE SNAPSHOT IS NOT AUGUST 1.

The new snapshot date will be announced later, and will take place sometime before the September launch.

Would it not have been easier for coins101 to actually post himself in the second post that is titled "RESERVED FOR REGULAR UPDATES." Instead of linking to a paste bin that is still kind of vague? I am just meaning that it does not actually say out right that the snap shot date is moved to "x" (which said link is not even in the "RESERVED FOR REGULAR UPDATES".

I just mentioned this to Karmashark. Hopefully we can get this to be more visible shortly.

Would be nice to update the OP regarding the snapshot date, even with an estimated date.

[defunctec]

 

You guy's know Helium is just an escape vehicle for Spreadcoin bag holders? Do some research.

https://github.com/spreadcoin/spreadcoin

Why would a developer fork this s@*t?

Only sensible reason behind it is so Spreadcoin bag holders are able to finally have a large stake in a masternode token.

Spreadcoin $1 now, nearing $10 marketcap... with the prospect of above code and masternodes?

Wow.

[coma1013]

You guy's know Helium is just an escape vehicle for Spreadcoin bag holders? Do some research.

https://github.com/spreadcoin/spreadcoin

Why would a developer fork this s@*t?

Only sensible reason behind it is so Spreadcoin bag holders are able to finally have a large stake in a masternode token.

Spreadcoin $1 now, nearing $10 marketcap... with the prospect of above code and masternodes?

Wow.

Over two years Georgem lied.



Read the link page to see why helium appears.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.5480

[szfinx]

You guy's know Helium is just an escape vehicle for Spreadcoin bag holders? Do some research.

https://github.com/spreadcoin/spreadcoin

Why would a developer fork this s@*t?

Only sensible reason behind it is so Spreadcoin bag holders are able to finally have a large stake in a masternode token.

Spreadcoin $1 now, nearing $10 marketcap... with the prospect of above code and masternodes?

Wow.

Yes, you are right... So what?

Spreadcoin's original big bagholders are forking the coin to make it useable and create a very brave project. I can't see any problem with it.

[CHAOSiTEC]

Would enjoy hearing more of this?

what would you like to know?

I would like to know where your 5 data-centres are located, which countries and regions?
Do you have the same price regardless the location?

locations, 1 datacenter in US - 1 in Canada, 2 in France, and 1 in japan, new ones coming end this year, start next year

same price, but your alocated to a first free spot, meaning you cannot order a specific region (servers needs to be filled else i would have to charge way more than i do now

per masternode is 5 dollars

[defunctec]

You guy's know Helium is just an escape vehicle for Spreadcoin bag holders? Do some research.

https://github.com/spreadcoin/spreadcoin

Why would a developer fork this s@*t?

Only sensible reason behind it is so Spreadcoin bag holders are able to finally have a large stake in a masternode token.

Spreadcoin $1 now, nearing $10 marketcap... with the prospect of above code and masternodes?

Wow.

Over two years Georgem lied.



Read the link page to see why helium appears.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.5480

I know exactly what happened, I have a little history with SPR.
And there's nothing wrong with what the Helium team are doing, I just personally feel
that everyone should know the real reason Helium is a fork of SPR and not a completely new token (So the large SPR holders can have a controlling stake and manage the project how they want).
Nothing wrong with that but the community should know the true motives here.

The SPR code is old and needs serious core development work, take a look.
I'm open to any reasoning as to why the Helium team would fork SPR, but it's pretty obvious from my perspective.

[stormcleric]

I'm curious about this coin but it's true that the 1:1 rate with Spreadcoin is suspicious. I'm not exactly sure if SPR hodlers want to get out with a more powerful token to compensate their investments or what.

[grex]

I hope they can strike a deal with bittrex for the coin distribution or at least give us enough time to withdraw the coins. However still no official announcement about the postponed snapshot date 

[Islapdonkey]

You guy's know Helium is just an escape vehicle for Spreadcoin bag holders? Do some research.

https://github.com/spreadcoin/spreadcoin

Why would a developer fork this s@*t?

Only sensible reason behind it is so Spreadcoin bag holders are able to finally have a large stake in a masternode token.

Spreadcoin $1 now, nearing $10 marketcap... with the prospect of above code and masternodes?

Wow.

Over two years Georgem lied.



Read the link page to see why helium appears.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.5480

I know exactly what happened, I have a little history with SPR.
And there's nothing wrong with what the Helium team are doing, I just personally feel
that everyone should know the real reason Helium is a fork of SPR and not a completely new token (So the large SPR holders can have a controlling stake and manage the project how they want).
Nothing wrong with that but the community should know the true motives here.

The SPR code is old and needs serious core development work, take a look.
I'm open to any reasoning as to why the Helium team would fork SPR, but it's pretty obvious from my perspective.

I don't think any of this is hidden to prospective investors. All one need is a little research and this info is quite apparent. And they are utilizing airdrop for the helium, which I can appreciate. I have seen similar incidents where the developer had an ico or an ipo to distribute the coin but in their case, they are sharing the wealth with the prior investors. Also, if spread had the original idea for a masternode but didn't deploy it and the idea was hijacked and utilized efficiently by dash, i wouldn't blame majority shareholders from wanting to create a separate situation. It's almost akin to majority stock shareholders ousting the owner of a company if he/she is underperforming in the role as a leader.

[antonio8]

You guy's know Helium is just an escape vehicle for Spreadcoin bag holders? Do some research.

https://github.com/spreadcoin/spreadcoin

Why would a developer fork this s@*t?

Only sensible reason behind it is so Spreadcoin bag holders are able to finally have a large stake in a masternode token.

Spreadcoin $1 now, nearing $10 marketcap... with the prospect of above code and masternodes?

Wow.

So you still waiting for that?

Are people still paying him monthly for the "use" of his new wallet?

I guess we need to leave the talk of SPR in the SPR thread and leave this for HLM discussion.

[andrew24p]

You guy's know Helium is just an escape vehicle for Spreadcoin bag holders? Do some research.

https://github.com/spreadcoin/spreadcoin

Why would a developer fork this s@*t?

Only sensible reason behind it is so Spreadcoin bag holders are able to finally have a large stake in a masternode token.

Spreadcoin $1 now, nearing $10 marketcap... with the prospect of above code and masternodes?

Wow.

Over two years Georgem lied.



Read the link page to see why helium appears.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.5480

I know exactly what happened, I have a little history with SPR.
And there's nothing wrong with what the Helium team are doing, I just personally feel
that everyone should know the real reason Helium is a fork of SPR and not a completely new token (So the large SPR holders can have a controlling stake and manage the project how they want).
Nothing wrong with that but the community should know the true motives here.

The SPR code is old and needs serious core development work, take a look.
I'm open to any reasoning as to why the Helium team would fork SPR, but it's pretty obvious from my perspective.

Its less of a fork, more of a movement in a different direction since the fork will actually be of the dash code not SPR code. I think choosing to fork off an existing coin that had potential  before developers ruined it and help keep the promise the coin was supposed to be isnt a bad idea. I like it better than an ICO or a premine, the coin is still very inexpensive in the grand scheme of things with the marketcap below 10 million so there is still time for people who want to get in. I like where this coin is going personally, it is okay to criticize it though, I see what apprehensions you might have.

[hughson]

I'm trying to get the word out about the snapshot.

https://steemit.com/bitcoincash/@thomas.hughson/you-got-your-free-bitcoin-cash-here-s-how-another-upcoming-snapshot-of-spreadcoin-will-get-you-more-free-coins
Repost to help out.

[MoneroMooo]

A beautiful and reliable team. helium has projected one of the latest technologies. Good luck. I follow social media.

[rhinomonkey]

You guy's know Helium is just an escape vehicle for Spreadcoin bag holders? Do some research.

https://github.com/spreadcoin/spreadcoin

Why would a developer fork this s@*t?

Only sensible reason behind it is so Spreadcoin bag holders are able to finally have a large stake in a masternode token.

Spreadcoin $1 now, nearing $10 marketcap... with the prospect of above code and masternodes?

Wow.

Over two years Georgem lied.



Read the link page to see why helium appears.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.5480

I know exactly what happened, I have a little history with SPR.
And there's nothing wrong with what the Helium team are doing, I just personally feel
that everyone should know the real reason Helium is a fork of SPR and not a completely new token (So the large SPR holders can have a controlling stake and manage the project how they want).
Nothing wrong with that but the community should know the true motives here.

The SPR code is old and needs serious core development work, take a look.
I'm open to any reasoning as to why the Helium team would fork SPR, but it's pretty obvious from my perspective.

I don't exactly know why you are coming in here and spreading misinformation. But you are highly incorrect. HLM won't be a fork of Spreadcoin. It will be a snapshot of Spreadcoin and will be a hardfork of Dash until it moves away from Dash when Service Nodes are developed.

[defunctec]

You guy's know Helium is just an escape vehicle for Spreadcoin bag holders? Do some research.

https://github.com/spreadcoin/spreadcoin

Why would a developer fork this s@*t?

Only sensible reason behind it is so Spreadcoin bag holders are able to finally have a large stake in a masternode token.

Spreadcoin $1 now, nearing $10 marketcap... with the prospect of above code and masternodes?

Wow.

Over two years Georgem lied.



Read the link page to see why helium appears.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.5480

I know exactly what happened, I have a little history with SPR.
And there's nothing wrong with what the Helium team are doing, I just personally feel
that everyone should know the real reason Helium is a fork of SPR and not a completely new token (So the large SPR holders can have a controlling stake and manage the project how they want).
Nothing wrong with that but the community should know the true motives here.

The SPR code is old and needs serious core development work, take a look.
I'm open to any reasoning as to why the Helium team would fork SPR, but it's pretty obvious from my perspective.

I don't exactly know why you are coming in here and spreading misinformation. But you are highly incorrect. HLM won't be a fork of Spreadcoin. It will be a snapshot of Spreadcoin and will be a hardfork of Dash until it moves away from Dash when Service Nodes are developed.

Semantics.

Snapshot of the chain so you guys can import your private keys over to Helium blockchain.
Why not just fork Dash and start over?

[rhinomonkey]

You guy's know Helium is just an escape vehicle for Spreadcoin bag holders? Do some research.

https://github.com/spreadcoin/spreadcoin

Why would a developer fork this s@*t?

Only sensible reason behind it is so Spreadcoin bag holders are able to finally have a large stake in a masternode token.

Spreadcoin $1 now, nearing $10 marketcap... with the prospect of above code and masternodes?

Wow.

Over two years Georgem lied.



Read the link page to see why helium appears.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.5480

I know exactly what happened, I have a little history with SPR.
And there's nothing wrong with what the Helium team are doing, I just personally feel
that everyone should know the real reason Helium is a fork of SPR and not a completely new token (So the large SPR holders can have a controlling stake and manage the project how they want).
Nothing wrong with that but the community should know the true motives here.

The SPR code is old and needs serious core development work, take a look.
I'm open to any reasoning as to why the Helium team would fork SPR, but it's pretty obvious from my perspective.

I don't exactly know why you are coming in here and spreading misinformation. But you are highly incorrect. HLM won't be a fork of Spreadcoin. It will be a snapshot of Spreadcoin and will be a hardfork of Dash until it moves away from Dash when Service Nodes are developed.

Semantics.

Snapshot of the chain so you guys can import your private keys over to Helium blockchain.
Why not just fork Dash and start over?

It's not semantics when your main point was about the codebase being old?

Coins has made a post about why the split is being done the way it is. It is in the OP. But clearly you don't care to read and instead want to spread misinformation.

[defunctec]

You guy's know Helium is just an escape vehicle for Spreadcoin bag holders? Do some research.

https://github.com/spreadcoin/spreadcoin

Why would a developer fork this s@*t?

Only sensible reason behind it is so Spreadcoin bag holders are able to finally have a large stake in a masternode token.

Spreadcoin $1 now, nearing $10 marketcap... with the prospect of above code and masternodes?

Wow.

Over two years Georgem lied.



Read the link page to see why helium appears.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.5480

I know exactly what happened, I have a little history with SPR.
And there's nothing wrong with what the Helium team are doing, I just personally feel
that everyone should know the real reason Helium is a fork of SPR and not a completely new token (So the large SPR holders can have a controlling stake and manage the project how they want).
Nothing wrong with that but the community should know the true motives here.

The SPR code is old and needs serious core development work, take a look.
I'm open to any reasoning as to why the Helium team would fork SPR, but it's pretty obvious from my perspective.

I don't exactly know why you are coming in here and spreading misinformation. But you are highly incorrect. HLM won't be a fork of Spreadcoin. It will be a snapshot of Spreadcoin and will be a hardfork of Dash until it moves away from Dash when Service Nodes are developed.

Semantics.

Snapshot of the chain so you guys can import your private keys over to Helium blockchain.
Why not just fork Dash and start over?

It's not semantics when your main point was about the codebase being old?

Coins has made a post about why the split is being done the way it is. It is in the OP. But clearly you don't care to read and instead want to spread misinformation.

Sorry, this confused me

Spreadcoin > HLM economic fork

The only 'Fork' is that of Dash>HLM. The only reason SPR is mentioned is to import SPR Private keys to HLM.
Again so large holders from SPR can have a majority stake in the project.

This isn't a Fork of SPR>HLM, HLM is a new Alt with a large pre-mine/instamine.
And will propably retain "Non premined status", great.

Worse than I originally thought.

[rhinomonkey]

You guy's know Helium is just an escape vehicle for Spreadcoin bag holders? Do some research.

https://github.com/spreadcoin/spreadcoin

Why would a developer fork this s@*t?

Only sensible reason behind it is so Spreadcoin bag holders are able to finally have a large stake in a masternode token.

Spreadcoin $1 now, nearing $10 marketcap... with the prospect of above code and masternodes?

Wow.

Over two years Georgem lied.



Read the link page to see why helium appears.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.5480

I know exactly what happened, I have a little history with SPR.
And there's nothing wrong with what the Helium team are doing, I just personally feel
that everyone should know the real reason Helium is a fork of SPR and not a completely new token (So the large SPR holders can have a controlling stake and manage the project how they want).
Nothing wrong with that but the community should know the true motives here.

The SPR code is old and needs serious core development work, take a look.
I'm open to any reasoning as to why the Helium team would fork SPR, but it's pretty obvious from my perspective.

I don't exactly know why you are coming in here and spreading misinformation. But you are highly incorrect. HLM won't be a fork of Spreadcoin. It will be a snapshot of Spreadcoin and will be a hardfork of Dash until it moves away from Dash when Service Nodes are developed.

Semantics.

Snapshot of the chain so you guys can import your private keys over to Helium blockchain.
Why not just fork Dash and start over?

It's not semantics when your main point was about the codebase being old?

Coins has made a post about why the split is being done the way it is. It is in the OP. But clearly you don't care to read and instead want to spread misinformation.

Sorry, this confused me

Spreadcoin > HLM economic fork

The only 'Fork' is that of Dash>HLM. The only reason SPR is mentioned is to import SPR Private keys to HLM.
Again so large holders from SPR can have a majority stake in the project.

This isn't a Fork of SPR>HLM, HLM is a new Alt with a large pre-mine/instamine.
And will propably retain "Non premined status", great.

Worse than I originally thought.

The Spreadcoin to Helium switch is nothing more than a community based effort to change the direction of a project. Not much different from a hardfork, in principle. Do you believe if a community wants to take a coin in a different direction (after spending loads of time, energy and money) should just leave and make their own brand new coin from scratch? Most people invested in Spreadcoin (well, at least I did) because of Coins101's ideas and whitepapers. I and a number of other people spent time and money (donating to Georgem) with the expectation that Georgem would deliver on those ideas. Alas, he hasn't, and won't, because the whitepapers aren't in line with his ideology. That wasn't made clear initially though, because until the end of last year, the community was told everything was being worked on highly diligently... I don't need to explain this to you... you know.

As you have said, a hardfork is not technically feasible because the Spreadcoin codebase is so old. So the only other option without just ditching everything  is to fork a working coinbase and continue the community and ideas elsewhere with a competent developement team that will work inline with what the community here has invested in (Service Nodes).

I appreciate that you are allowed to have your grievances and your questions / skepticisms. But I can't respect the way you have brought them up as you made false claims and accusations from the very start.

[defunctec]

You guy's know Helium is just an escape vehicle for Spreadcoin bag holders? Do some research.

https://github.com/spreadcoin/spreadcoin

Why would a developer fork this s@*t?

Only sensible reason behind it is so Spreadcoin bag holders are able to finally have a large stake in a masternode token.

Spreadcoin $1 now, nearing $10 marketcap... with the prospect of above code and masternodes?

Wow.

Over two years Georgem lied.



Read the link page to see why helium appears.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.5480

I know exactly what happened, I have a little history with SPR.
And there's nothing wrong with what the Helium team are doing, I just personally feel
that everyone should know the real reason Helium is a fork of SPR and not a completely new token (So the large SPR holders can have a controlling stake and manage the project how they want).
Nothing wrong with that but the community should know the true motives here.

The SPR code is old and needs serious core development work, take a look.
I'm open to any reasoning as to why the Helium team would fork SPR, but it's pretty obvious from my perspective.

I don't exactly know why you are coming in here and spreading misinformation. But you are highly incorrect. HLM won't be a fork of Spreadcoin. It will be a snapshot of Spreadcoin and will be a hardfork of Dash until it moves away from Dash when Service Nodes are developed.

Semantics.

Snapshot of the chain so you guys can import your private keys over to Helium blockchain.
Why not just fork Dash and start over?

It's not semantics when your main point was about the codebase being old?

Coins has made a post about why the split is being done the way it is. It is in the OP. But clearly you don't care to read and instead want to spread misinformation.

Sorry, this confused me

Spreadcoin > HLM economic fork

The only 'Fork' is that of Dash>HLM. The only reason SPR is mentioned is to import SPR Private keys to HLM.
Again so large holders from SPR can have a majority stake in the project.

This isn't a Fork of SPR>HLM, HLM is a new Alt with a large pre-mine/instamine.
And will propably retain "Non premined status", great.

Worse than I originally thought.

The Spreadcoin to Helium switch is nothing more than a community based effort to change the direction of a project. Not much different from a hardfork, in principle. Do you believe if a community wants to take a coin in a different direction (after spending loads of time, energy and money) should just leave and make their own brand new coin from scratch? Most people invested in Spreadcoin (well, at least I did) because of Coins101's ideas and whitepapers. I and a number of other people spent time and money (donating to Georgem) with the expectation that Georgem would deliver on those ideas. Alas, he hasn't, and won't, because the whitepapers aren't in line with his ideology. That wasn't made clear initially though, because until the end of last year, the community was told everything was being worked on highly diligently... I don't need to explain this to you... you know.

As you have said, a hardfork is not technically feasible because the Spreadcoin codebase is so old. So the only other option without just ditching everything  is to fork a working coinbase and continue the community and ideas elsewhere with a competent developement team that will work inline with what the community here has invested in (Service Nodes).

I appreciate that you are allowed to have your grievances and your questions / skepticisms. But I can't respect the way you have brought them up as you made false claims and accusations from the very start.

Don't disregard everything I said from a little mistake I made from being confused by the Helium OP. I also see a bit of confusion from a few guys in here so its not just me. I should have done 5 mins more research to find  that SPR is not the fork but Dash.

I appreciate you being open about the project and why you guys decided to do what you did.
This just needs to be completely obvious to your community, probably in the OP.

The method of distribution still concerns me and should others.
Even Pre-mine is better than snapshit because all development funds are public.

I do wish you guys good luck and hope we can work together in the future when HLM is established more