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May 14, 2017, 08:35:12 AM
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I joined last night, I've been mining now for 8 hours 20 minutes on ckpool.org @ 7.28 TH/s, i might be bringing some more workers online sometime today, i would like to maybe meet that 10 TH/s threshold.  Wink
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May 15, 2017, 06:29:36 AM
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I almost feel like restarting the pool just so I'd have something to say as an update but I feel obliged to post some words anyway. The pool's functioning fine as we slowly edge past 75% diff on this first block, and we now have had over 200 unique users sign up. A huge number of those are tiny miners and that's great because one of my aims was to provide a haven for the tiny miners to eventually get some kind of payout, but it's also not enough to find us blocks much faster. 94 users have already made it into the potential payouts for the first mined block. As the initial enthusiasm faded from the renters, the hashrate is settling at ~300Th rate which won't find us a block any time soon but slow growth is to be expected.  I wish I could magic the first block into existence but if I had such magic I'd have been using it for myself long ago. I'm sure (or at least hope) there are miners out there waiting for the first block to fall before joining with significantly more hashrate (and have the beta tag removed), but it's the old catch 22 - can't get miners until you have miners and you won't have miners till you get them.  The current best share for the pool is still sitting at 315G and I'm sure you all know network difficulty is 560G.

Anyway welcome to all the newcomers and thanks for joining us. Be patient and tell your friends Smiley

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May 15, 2017, 09:49:16 PM
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As the initial enthusiasm faded from the renters, the hashrate is settling at ~300Th rate which won't find us a block any time soon but slow growth is to be expected.

I'm here to stay, I'd rent more but I'm out of BTC at the moment. Had to sell off my BTC to pay some bills. So just my little miners here for now, I'll add more if I can find a couple cheap power supplies.

BTW I added your pool to my sig, hope it helps!


Thanks man, every little bit counts  Smiley

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May 15, 2017, 10:18:01 PM
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[2017-05-15 17:14:54.553] Proxy 0:stratum+tcp://pool.ckpool.org:3333 failed, attempting reconnect
[2017-05-15 17:14:57.166] Failed initial subscribe to pool.ckpool.org:3333 !

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May 15, 2017, 10:24:10 PM
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[2017-05-15 17:14:54.553] Proxy 0:stratum+tcp://pool.ckpool.org:3333 failed, attempting reconnect
[2017-05-15 17:14:57.166] Failed initial subscribe to pool.ckpool.org:3333 !
Was updating bitcoind which temporarily takes address validation offline. Unfortunately this took much longer than expected so many users were put on hold for a while. Sorry about the inconvenience.

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May 16, 2017, 08:26:01 PM
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Now would be a good time to find a block, look at those fees!  Shocked

   
466,711   Bixin   998,070   16.79773795 BTC   
466,710   Bixin   998,089   16.65436166 BTC   
466,709   SlushPool   998,146   16.04295952 BTC   
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Current Block Reward*: 17.05439732
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And doesn't it figure that someone is about to dump 250+ coins on the market, so I can't buy any rentals yet.  Cry


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May 17, 2017, 11:45:10 PM
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We've got a handful of new miners which is always good to see but only marginally more hashrate. Diff will be going up another 50G in just over 5 days so unless we find a block before then (which is unlikely at the current hashrate) then it will push our diff% down again. Hopefully we're lucky in that time and/or some bigger miners join to help us crack the block before then.

Otherwise, mine on and tell your friends Smiley

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May 19, 2017, 12:55:20 AM
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Looks like the pool hashrate is dropping, likely due to the BTC price going up...
I'm not sure how one relates to the other.  Huh


Edit: of note, we're ~12 hrs into my "off" day Wink

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May 19, 2017, 12:57:15 AM
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Looks like the pool hashrate is dropping, likely due to the BTC price going up. I got my S7LN back up and running. I'm going to stick it out at least through the first block even if I have to find it with my 3TH alone! lol
I don' t think BTC value has anything to do with it. Not entirely sure what is driving the drop in hashrate but it looks like a combination of all rentals going completely offline and some people just losing patience/confidence/faith and thinking it's better to abandon than to stick it out, even though on average the final returns should be similar over a much longer period. I always knew getting hashrate to start off a new pool from scratch was going to be hard but the pool is staying regardless and those who stay on should be amply rewarded in time. Either that or perhaps there isn't a market for a low fee high performance no frills unique pool after all? I'd like to think that's wrong and that it all comes down to luck. If the pool had solved a block in absurdly lucky timeframe, people would have just jumped on board without thinking - even though past luck has zero effect on future luck. It's just getting over that initial activation energy that proves so hard and keeps everyone on large shit centralised pools.

Edit: of note, we're ~12 hrs into my "off" day Wink

I'm aware and still grateful for your hashes Smiley I have been watching. It's not for lack of number of users, we just don't have anyone bigger than you hashing.

EDIT: Whoops I forgot to mention one other similarly sized miner whose hashrate fluctuates wildly is currently offline too and that appears to be temporary.

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May 19, 2017, 02:20:40 PM
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I feel like I'm solo mining in 2028  Cry

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May 19, 2017, 02:56:46 PM
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Come on block. Lets crack the first one and get this show on the road!!

 Ive only got a few Ghs (2x2pacs, 1x compac, 1x Black Arrow X1) but I'm feeling good today. Could just be the friday feeling but still would be a nice surprise when I get home from work.

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May 19, 2017, 03:13:05 PM
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... Could just be the friday feeling but still would be a nice surprise when I get home from work.
One of my VMs has a script that scrapes stats every 60 seconds and will play the "Hey! Listen!" from Zelda (at full volume) when Diff resets.  Grin Tongue

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May 19, 2017, 06:40:03 PM
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I feel like I'm solo mining in 2028  Cry
Indeed it's been a dud couple of days for hashrate but looks a little better now.

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May 22, 2017, 02:58:58 AM
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Ping.

Not much more I can do to raise hashrate further but say we're all still here mining away.

In obliquely related news it appears all the major pools have come to an agreement behind closed doors and will activate segwit. They'll be doing it on their own terms insisting on a 2MB hard fork a year later but at least it will clear the air for segwit and allow bitcoin to move on beyond this absurd stalemate.

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May 22, 2017, 04:16:22 AM
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Ping.

Not much more I can do to raise hashrate further but say we're all still here mining away.

In obliquely related news it appears all the major pools have come to an agreement behind closed doors and will activate segwit. They'll be doing it on their own terms insisting on a 2MB hard fork a year later but at least it will clear the air for segwit and allow bitcoin to move on beyond this absurd stalemate.

this has been the greatest growth in marketcap ever.

and  all of the crypto coin world is thriving.

So I don't see the stalemate that you see.

But that is what starts fights between good people.

If segwit comes it will radically change the game.  Since I have a foot in the btc camp and the alt coin world I hope to survive the change.

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May 22, 2017, 04:24:56 AM
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this has been the greatest growth in marketcap ever.

and  all of the crypto coin world is thriving.

So I don't see the stalemate that you see.

But that is what starts fights between good people.

If segwit comes it will radically change the game.  Since I have a foot in the btc camp and the alt coin world I hope to survive the change.
I'm aware you're against segwit and basically feel exactly the opposite way you do about it but of course only time will tell. The stalemate I spoke of was the lack of ability of any change to be accepted. That would hurt bitcoin long term. The market capitalisation seems to be completely dissociated from what's been going on in the development space which is in itself reassuring because it means it's the economy itself that is driving value up. Nonetheless economy can go on driving the value fine, but engineering is still required to develop the network further - be that fatter, wider, more compressed, bigger, smaller, smarter, more anonymous, more features, smart contracts, whatever... The excitement regarding the huge fees from miners comes at the cost of disgust from the users at the huge fees. Leaving it as is long term is not viable. We don't really want to be in a situation where one group is antagonising the other; we're supposed to all be benefiting from the design and network.

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May 22, 2017, 04:31:37 AM
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this has been the greatest growth in marketcap ever.

and  all of the crypto coin world is thriving.

So I don't see the stalemate that you see.

But that is what starts fights between good people.

If segwit comes it will radically change the game.  Since I have a foot in the btc camp and the alt coin world I hope to survive the change.
I'm aware you're against segwit and basically feel exactly the opposite way you do about it but of course only time will tell. The stalemate I spoke of was the lack of ability of any change to be accepted. That would hurt bitcoin long term. The market capitalisation seems to be completely dissociated from what's been going on in the development space which is in itself reassuring because it means it's the economy itself that is driving value up. Nonetheless economy can go on driving the value fine, but engineering is still required to develop the network further - be that fatter, wider, more compressed, bigger, smaller, smarter, more anonymous, more features, smart contracts, whatever... The excitement regarding the huge fees from miners comes at the cost of disgust from the users at the huge fees. Leaving it as is long term is not viable. We don't really want to be in a situation where one group is antagonising the other; we're supposed to all be benefiting from the design and network.

which is why i split my choices since I view it from economical viewpoint more then a technical viewpoint.

I hope those that are all in segwit only  all or nothing  don't get burned.


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May 22, 2017, 08:15:30 AM
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Now that I've seen the draft for the agreement, it appears the segwit activation by the large pools is actually going to be their own implementation associated with a 2MB hard fork in September this year and won't even use the existing segwit bits meaning it will be incompatible with any existing bitcoin node software out there by core, BU, or anyone else. Umm....  Huh

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May 22, 2017, 11:03:53 AM
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... and won't even use the existing segwit bits...
While it's no secret that I dislike segwit, it should also be no secret that I see an adoption of segwit that isn't coded by the wonderful folks at Core as a blessing to Bitcoin itself. Much like folks stopped seeing IE as the "official" browser of the internet; there needs to come a day of reckoning where the devs either bow to the wants/wishes of the marketplace (and not the wrong way round) or they get left behind.

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May 22, 2017, 11:10:30 AM
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... and won't even use the existing segwit bits...
While it's no secret that I dislike segwit, it should also be no secret that I see an adoption of segwit that isn't coded by the wonderful folks at Core as a blessing to Bitcoin itself. Much like folks stopped seeing IE as the "official" browser of the internet; there needs to come a day of reckoning where the devs either bow to the wants/wishes of the marketplace (and not the wrong way round) or they get left behind.
Um, no, they'll be using segwit as coded by Core. They're just going to add a hard fork to it and use a different bit.

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