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February 07, 2018, 08:16:45 PM
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Hello! I just joined your pool with my lonely but hardworking S9 miner, I understand that it's stupid to ask how much I will receive, but what is the probability of finding a block by my miner, with an average speed of 12.8-13.3 Th/s?
Your Hash rate = 13 TH/s
100% probability to win a block in 35,55 years



I would love to see this exercise on 7 PH/s


Pool Hash rate = 7000 TH/s
128% probability to win a block in 1 month
Alas these are wrong. There is no such thing as 100% probability with mining which is a stochastic process. It keeps approaching 100% but never gets there.

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February 07, 2018, 11:12:45 PM
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Hello! I just joined your pool with my lonely but hardworking S9 miner, I understand that it's stupid to ask how much I will receive, but what is the probability of finding a block by my miner, with an average speed of 12.8-13.3 Th/s?
Your Hash rate = 13 TH/s
100% probability to win a block in 35,55 years



I would love to see this exercise on 7 PH/s


Pool Hash rate = 7000 TH/s
128% probability to win a block in 1 month
Alas these are wrong. There is no such thing as 100% probability with mining which is a stochastic process. It keeps approaching 100% but never gets there.

Maybe better to say

Your Hash rate = 13 TH/s -> If you have neutral luck you will mine 1 block in 35,55 years
Pool Hash rate = 7000 TH/s -> Having neutral luck 1 block will be mined in 24 days (or 1.28 blocks in 1 month, even it is imposible to mine 0,28 blocks)

Definetively, 128% luck doesn't make any sense
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February 07, 2018, 11:24:56 PM
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Maybe better to say

Your Hash rate = 13 TH/s -> If you have neutral luck you will mine 1 block in 35,55 years
Pool Hash rate = 7000 TH/s -> Having neutral luck 1 block will be mined in 24 days (or 1.28 blocks in 1 month, even it is imposible to mine 0,28 blocks)

Definetively, 128% luck doesn't make any sense
Maybe better to say that if nothing changes and you work on the exact same block, then you are likely to have an average find rate of 1 valid share for the current diff every 35 years (and this could also mean that you find 0 for the next 100 years and then find 3 in a row), and all of these numbers will be rendered moot in ~ 12 Days 6 Hours when the diff rises another likely 10%.  Smiley

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February 07, 2018, 11:36:28 PM
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I've spent this evening making a very basic app to view your user mining details on android for personal use.

I've not added individual miners yet and it is in the same format as the old web version. I'll make it look pretty with graphs and other things in the future but just thought that i would share it for those who want to use it.

You just enter your wallet address and it gets the details, refreshing every 5 seconds or on click. Just gets the data from the webpage and puts it in an app form basically :)



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February 07, 2018, 11:37:46 PM
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You just enter your wallet address and it gets the details, refreshing every 5 seconds or on click. Just gets the data from the webpage and puts it in an app form basically Smiley
The pages only update every minute on the server so this is wasteful at both ends.

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February 07, 2018, 11:39:48 PM
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You just enter your wallet address and it gets the details, refreshing every 5 seconds or on click. Just gets the data from the webpage and puts it in an app form basically Smiley
The pages only update every minute on the server so this is wasteful at both ends.

Ok, thanks for the feedback. Ill change it to update on tap or every 5 mins or so. That should make it better Smiley
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February 08, 2018, 06:52:42 PM
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Looks like we're down a few ph  Cry
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February 08, 2018, 07:54:49 PM
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Looks like we're down a few ph  Cry

I'm throwing in 190THs for about 3 hours.
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February 08, 2018, 09:03:18 PM
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Pool Hash rate = 7000 TH/s
128% probability to win a block in 1 month
Alas these are wrong. There is no such thing as 100% probability with mining which is a stochastic process. It keeps approaching 100% but never gets there.

Maybe better to say

Your Hash rate = 13 TH/s -> If you have neutral luck you will mine 1 block in 35,55 years
Pool Hash rate = 7000 TH/s -> Having neutral luck 1 block will be mined in 24 days (or 1.28 blocks in 1 month, even it is imposible to mine 0,28 blocks)

Definetively, 128% luck doesn't make any sense
128% luck would make sense. Just not 128% probability, right?

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February 08, 2018, 11:36:39 PM
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Pool Hash rate = 7000 TH/s
128% probability to win a block in 1 month
Alas these are wrong. There is no such thing as 100% probability with mining which is a stochastic process. It keeps approaching 100% but never gets there.

Maybe better to say

Your Hash rate = 13 TH/s -> If you have neutral luck you will mine 1 block in 35,55 years
Pool Hash rate = 7000 TH/s -> Having neutral luck 1 block will be mined in 24 days (or 1.28 blocks in 1 month, even it is imposible to mine 0,28 blocks)

Definetively, 128% luck doesn't make any sense
128% luck would make sense. Just not 128% probability, right?


I think Luck and Probability mean exactly the same thing.
 They allude to a notion but really don't mean much at the end of the day
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February 09, 2018, 12:44:52 AM
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I think Luck and Probability mean exactly the same thing.
 They allude to a notion but really don't mean much at the end of the day
Literally, the most wrong thing to be written in the entirety of the last 54 pages.  Roll Eyes

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February 09, 2018, 03:09:50 PM
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I think Luck and Probability mean exactly the same thing.
 They allude to a notion but really don't mean much at the end of the day
Literally, the most wrong thing to be written in the entirety of the last 54 pages.  Roll Eyes


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February 09, 2018, 03:12:30 PM
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Asking some math wiz here....

What's the calculation for the mean max diff that statistically can be achieved in a 24hr day if say I have a system that is:

20TH
200TH
2PH

I know that it's all variance and it can go to the tails but what is the statistical norm?

And further to that based on that value, what's the max mean diff that can be achieved in a 30 day month?

I know it's out there somewhere but I can't be sure of the answer for some reason. Help will be greatly appreciated!
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February 09, 2018, 03:19:56 PM
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Pool Hash rate = 7000 TH/s
128% probability to win a block in 1 month
Alas these are wrong. There is no such thing as 100% probability with mining which is a stochastic process. It keeps approaching 100% but never gets there.

Maybe better to say

Your Hash rate = 13 TH/s -> If you have neutral luck you will mine 1 block in 35,55 years
Pool Hash rate = 7000 TH/s -> Having neutral luck 1 block will be mined in 24 days (or 1.28 blocks in 1 month, even it is imposible to mine 0,28 blocks)

Definetively, 128% luck doesn't make any sense
128% luck would make sense. Just not 128% probability, right?


I think Luck and Probability mean exactly the same thing.
 They allude to a notion but really don't mean much at the end of the day



If we stay at 7ph and the diff stays flat  the odds are we need to make 128 blocks in 100 months.


If we did that we would have 100% of what we should have this 100% luck .

If we do 192 we would have really good luck since our return is far higher then normal.

If we do 64 we would have really bad luck since our return is far lower then normal.

Of course we do not stay at 7ph  and diff does not stay flat which has nothing to do with the statement but causes difficulty in understanding projections into the future.


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February 10, 2018, 04:08:06 AM
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No, when we cross 5x network diff in herp, ie about 10 quadrillion shares. However the dormant miners' share of the herp is lessening as time progresses so it's not like they're entitled to the same payout with each subsequent block.

I just want to make sure I understand this. Our current herp is about 10 trillion shares and I'm guessing it drops back to 0 after each block that we find. So in order to drop the dormant miners, we need cross 10 quadrillion shares before we find our next block?  

 

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February 10, 2018, 04:10:18 AM
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I just want to make sure I understand this. Our current herp is about 10 trillion shares and I'm guessing it drops back to 0 after each block that we find. So in order to drop the dormant miners, we need cross 10 quadrillion shares before we find our next block?
I should have said trillion. We don't drop to zero, it levels off and starts biasing towards the new shares so the old miners slowly decrease in value.

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February 10, 2018, 04:27:28 AM
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I just want to make sure I understand this. Our current herp is about 10 trillion shares and I'm guessing it drops back to 0 after each block that we find. So in order to drop the dormant miners, we need cross 10 quadrillion shares before we find our next block?
I should have said trillion. We don't drop to zero, it levels off and starts biasing towards the new shares so the old miners slowly decrease in value.

"The rolling average is weighted according to when the shares were found - the more recent shares are the more they are worth." I think I got it now. Thank you!

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February 10, 2018, 08:48:45 AM
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I've spent this evening making a very basic app to view your user mining details on android for personal use.

I've not added individual miners yet and it is in the same format as the old web version. I'll make it look pretty with graphs and other things in the future but just thought that i would share it for those who want to use it.

You just enter your wallet address and it gets the details, refreshing every 5 seconds or on click. Just gets the data from the webpage and puts it in an app form basically Smiley



Link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.BadgerHobbs.CKPoolMonitor&rdid=com.BadgerHobbs.CKPoolMonitor&pli=1


If you can add graphs for individual workers that would be fantastic. Right now, it's nothing above what we can get from just entering link with our address on the website. So I will patiently wait for progress.

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February 10, 2018, 05:35:50 PM
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I like the new ckpool website but the only thing I don't see there is my postponed number... I don't see it in the user section anymore. Any way to add that in or am I not looking in the right spot.
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February 10, 2018, 08:05:04 PM
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I like the new ckpool website but the only thing I don't see there is my postponed number... I don't see it in the user section anymore. Any way to add that in or am I not looking in the right spot.
It can probably be added. All the old direct links still work by the way.

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