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Where can you see the work_diff data mentioned during the following section of the website:

sqrt (MIN (share diff, network_diff) / work_diff) * work_diff / 2

I see DERP, HERP, shares, etc.; however, I don't see work_diff so I can run through few mathematical scenarios.

Depends on your mining hardware and what diff it's currently mining at.

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[BSGMiner]

Where can you see the work_diff data mentioned during the following section of the website:

sqrt (MIN (share diff, network_diff) / work_diff) * work_diff / 2

I see DERP, HERP, shares, etc.; however, I don't see work_diff so I can run through few mathematical scenarios.

Depends on your mining hardware and what diff it's currently mining at.

Thanks. I just wasn't sure if that was displayed on the site somewhere.

[BSGMiner]

Lots of questions... Just let me know if I should just go back and read all previous posts.

1) So, I noticed the Active Miner page isn't always sorted by descending hashrate. Does it sometimes seem out of order due to those with less hashpower just having mined long enough to earn a spot that high or what?

2) Does being in the top 100 on the Active Miner page denote who will get a payout during the creation of the next block?

Maybe I'm misunderstanding some things along the way.

Thanks in advance for the patience.

EDIT: Found the following quote, which helps with some of this:

A number of short restarts coming up shortly for some updates.

All the restarts are complete. There are now a number of changes to both appearance and behaviour.

The pool work now shows which users have their reward postponed and how much herp they've accumulated. This means it lists the users who will not receive a payout in the next block solved, but shows how much herp will be accumulated to contribute to one where they meet the threshold requirement to receive a payout. This also means that miners below the dust threshold will eventually get a payout once their cumulative rewards make them meet the dust threshold over enough block solves.

Additionally as large coinbase transactions contribute negatively to miners latency, are incompatible with AVA2->7 devices, and contribute to many small miner rewards that end up costing a lot in fees to redeem, I have placed a limit on the number of transactions that will ever be included of 150. The top 100 miners will always receive a coinbase generation transaction with every block solved. The other 50 payouts will be interleaved amongst those who have reached payment threshold and are ordered by who has waited the longest for a payout. Miners will be able to monitor their accumulated herp if they've been postponed in the new user statistic "accumulated" and see how many times they've been postponed by the "postponed" variable.

Realistically these limits won't come into effect any time soon as there are currently only ~50 users that have reached payment threshold. Once we get above 150 active users it will start coming into effect - which would also correspond with a larger hashrate so more frequent blocks, however the dust threshold miners will already be counted towards future solves.

This concludes all my planned changes required to enable the pool to cope with as many miners of wildly varying sizes as could possibly be aimed at it, including what I think is a very fair offering for very small miners.

And now for some blocks...

[-ck]

1) So, I noticed the Active Miner page isn't always sorted by descending hashrate. Does it sometimes seem out of order due to those with less hashpower just having mined long enough to earn a spot that high or what?

2) Does being in the top 100 on the Active Miner page denote who will get a payout during the creation of the next block?

It is sorted by highest current 1 minute hashrate which is not shown on that page for brevity.

Active miners does not correlate with shares contributed.  Being in the top 100 share contributors guarantees a payout.

[BSGMiner]

Being in the top 100 share contributors guarantees a payout.

Great! So, does HERP reset after getting a payout so others can make their way to the top, or is that a stupid question?

By the way, it's awesome to actually get my questions answered by someone who's contributed so much to the mining community. Thanks for all you've done!

[-ck]

Great! So, does HERP reset after getting a payout so others can make their way to the top, or is that a stupid question?

No, because herp is the record of your contributed shares.

[SWA_HD]

Good morning,

It's almost a month I am hashing on this pool. Have mixed feelings and uncertain if it was the right decision. With a new block , hope in week or so, I would reach a payment 4-5 times less than i.e. I would be mining on nicehash...

Are these derp numbers are correct and shows the exact payout?  I would be having 4 times more than current

Thanks you / regards

[-ck]

Good morning,

It's almost a month I am hashing on this pool. Have mixed feelings and uncertain if it was the right decision. With a new block , hope in week or so, I would reach a payment 4-5 times less than i.e. I would be mining on nicehash...

Are these derp numbers are correct and shows the exact payout?  I would be having 4 times more than current

Thanks you / regards

Yes those derp numbers are correct if we find a block at the exact moment you are looking at the derp value which changes by the minute. If it's less than you see on other pools it's because you haven't mined here long term, but you'll continue to get paid on subsequent blocks as well, even if you pull out now. It averages out over many blocks rather than per day or per week or month even. If our pool was 100x larger it would be different and you could do a daily comparison. Luck will be the main determinant of whether you'll end up getting substantially more or less on this pool than if you mined elsewhere, which is much more of an effect than the pool's fee which is zero.

[ComputerGenie]

Block Party!
https://btc.com/0000000000000000003c68ad7520b43c603d08b8cc8331e9f74f8769e50e0a84

[-ck]

Block Party!
https://btc.com/0000000000000000003c68ad7520b43c603d08b8cc8331e9f74f8769e50e0a84

Code:

[2018-02-28 10:45:40.381] Possible block solve diff 4659424304660.333984 !
[2018-02-28 10:45:40.528] BLOCK ACCEPTED!
[2018-02-28 10:45:40.537] Solved block 511309 by 1EcH7pHYTHLo3cbdXfkf6e6Zh5JzCPGumc.wetsuit_jeffcolo594
[2018-02-28 10:45:40.537] User 1EcH7pHYTHLo3cbdXfkf6e6Zh5JzCPGumc:{"hashrate1m": "1.83P", "hashrate5m": "1.86P", "hashrate1hr": "2.19P", "hashrate1d": "5.41P", "hashrate7d": "5.58P"}
[2018-02-28 10:45:40.537] Worker 1EcH7pHYTHLo3cbdXfkf6e6Zh5JzCPGumc.wetsuit_jeffcolo594:{"hashrate1m": "482T", "hashrate5m": "492T", "hashrate1hr": "498T", "hashrate1d": "463T", "hashrate7d": "403T"}
[2018-02-28 10:52:36.139] Hash for block height 511309 confirms block was CONFIRMED

\o/

How close to 100% can we get haha, 100.8% diff. Also a big 1.47MB block chock full of segwit transactions now that 2 major exchanges are finally doing segwit and bitcoin core 0.16.0 has come out with native segwit support.

Full work and payout details:
http://ckpool.org/pool/blocks/511309.confirmed

[o_solo_miner]

  congratulation to Wetsuit for solving this Block!!!

May the Blocks be with us.

[BSGMiner]

Congrats, everybody! That one was almost right on schedule.

[-ck]

Congrats, everybody! That one was almost right on schedule.

Indeed. Now if only it actually worked like that, mining would be much simpler to explain to miners without needing a luck explanation... though no mechanism could make that possible and fair at the same time

[philipma1957]

Thank you for payment

[Ron83]

Block Party!
https://btc.com/0000000000000000003c68ad7520b43c603d08b8cc8331e9f74f8769e50e0a84

a good day for a block!!!!!

Thanks,

ck for the pool
wetsuit for solving it

and all the other miners who helped with hashing and hang out on this pool!

[gabriel0]

-ck, could you add some more stats to the pool, such as "All time Diff"/"Last 10 blocks average Diff", "Total pool payout count", "30 day hashrate", "Hashrate within this PPLNS"(The user's hashrate, calculated by the users herp submitted within the '5x network difficutly' period)?

[-ck]

-ck, could you add some more stats to the pool, such as "All time Diff"/"Last 10 blocks average Diff", "Total pool payout count", "30 day hashrate", "Hashrate within this PPLNS"(The user's hashrate, calculated by the users herp submitted within the '5x network difficutly' period)?

Would that bring us another 100PH of miners? Investing more and more time in this pool for free gets harder as time goes on if the pool doesn't take off much more.

[gabriel0]

Would that bring us another 100PH of miners? Investing more and more time in this pool for free gets harder as time goes on if the pool doesn't take off much more.

Yes, it will.
Or maybe not Doesn't have to be added today, it was only a suggestion/proposal.


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[ComputerGenie]

Would that bring us another 100PH of miners? Investing more and more time in this pool for free gets harder as time goes on if the pool doesn't take off much more.

Yes, it will.
Or maybe not Doesn't have to be added today, it was only a suggestion/proposal.

Perhaps such things as suggestions/proposals should be accompanied by an incentive and/or working code...
#JustSayin'


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[gabriel0]

Perhaps such things as suggestions/proposals should be accompanied by an incentive and/or working code...
#JustSayin'

Sure. For every byte present in the completed code, I will pay: 1 satoshi*0.003176*pool_hashrate*1.00038*last_block_diff*0*1.22819*total_users.

Or I can add 1 PH to the pool