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March 13, 2018, 09:43:26 PM |
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To the old miner's defense, the S9 has about 50x more chips and uses much more power than a U3
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ComputerGenie
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March 13, 2018, 11:09:11 PM |
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To the old miner's defense, the S9 has about 50x more chips and uses much more power than a U3
I'm not sure that the U3 at 590 w/TH (0.59w/GH) is less power than the S9 96 w/TH is "using less power", but ok
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If you have to ask "why?", you wouldn`t understand my answer. Always be on the look out, because you never know when you'll be stalked by hit-men that eat nothing but cream cheese....
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crypto_curious
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March 13, 2018, 11:39:34 PM |
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To the old miner's defense, the S9 has about 50x more chips and uses much more power than a U3 That's weak defense:D 50x more chips, but 230x more hashrate
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gabriel0
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March 14, 2018, 12:30:31 PM |
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I'm not sure that the U3 at 590 w/TH (0.59w/GH) is less power than the S9 96 w/TH is "using less power", but ok
If you have one U3 and one S9, I'm pretty sure that although the S9 mines more, it uses significantly more power than the U3, but ok
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ComputerGenie
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March 14, 2018, 05:21:28 PM |
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I'm not sure that the U3 at 590 w/TH (0.59w/GH) is less power than the S9 96 w/TH is "using less power", but ok
If you have one U3 and one S9, I'm pretty sure that although the S9 mines more, it uses significantly more power than the U3, but ok For a given hashrate, the U3 uses 6.1458333 times more power(electric) than the S9. (S9 Electric usage per hash) * (6.145833333333333) = (U3 Electric usage per hash) Because, math. Comparing "overall" is like saying a jet uses more fuel than a moped.
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If you have to ask "why?", you wouldn`t understand my answer. Always be on the look out, because you never know when you'll be stalked by hit-men that eat nothing but cream cheese....
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gabriel0
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March 14, 2018, 08:31:22 PM |
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For a given hashrate, the U3 uses 6.1458333 times more power(electric) than the S9. (S9 Electric usage per hash) * (6.145833333333333) = (U3 Electric usage per hash) Because, math. Comparing "overall" is like saying a jet uses more fuel than a moped. Right, I simply commented his(/her) moped<->jet comparison: "Funny to see newer generation device is like 230x times faster than previous one." I was saying 230x hashrate because it uses more power, not that it uses 230x more power..
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March 15, 2018, 01:53:05 AM |
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... "Funny to see newer generation device is like 230x times faster than previous one." ...
Because technology waits for nobody. The BM1382 in the U3 looks like it is Bitmain's first 28nm ASIC from 2014 according to their data sheet.
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1xA921 + 1xA741 + Backup-->1xA6 ;)
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March 16, 2018, 01:55:00 PM |
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Just out of curiosity--since my contributions have started to be very intermittent--how long will I keep getting credit for the work I've done so far?
I'm in the mid-400s with HERP in the 60 millions.
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ComputerGenie
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March 16, 2018, 02:30:09 PM |
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Just out of curiosity--since my contributions have started to be very intermittent--how long will I keep getting credit for the work I've done so far?
I'm in the mid-400s with HERP in the 60 millions.
...The pool's Herp is simply added until it reaches 5 * network difficulty. After that it is biased every minute by scaling existing herp down to add the latest minute's herp and all users' herp is adjusted by the same scale the pool's was...
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If you have to ask "why?", you wouldn`t understand my answer. Always be on the look out, because you never know when you'll be stalked by hit-men that eat nothing but cream cheese....
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March 16, 2018, 03:50:29 PM |
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...The pool's Herp is simply added until it reaches 5 * network difficulty. After that it is biased every minute by scaling existing herp down to add the latest minute's herp and all users' herp is adjusted by the same scale the pool's was...
Cool. Thanks for the clarifying quote.
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ComputerGenie
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March 16, 2018, 04:54:02 PM |
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...The pool's Herp is simply added until it reaches 5 * network difficulty. After that it is biased every minute by scaling existing herp down to add the latest minute's herp and all users' herp is adjusted by the same scale the pool's was...
Cool. Thanks for the clarifying quote. NP, I find it's always useful to requote the OP to people that seem to have not bothered to read it.
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If you have to ask "why?", you wouldn`t understand my answer. Always be on the look out, because you never know when you'll be stalked by hit-men that eat nothing but cream cheese....
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March 16, 2018, 11:35:29 PM Last edit: March 17, 2018, 11:28:28 PM by BSGMiner |
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...The pool's HERP is simply added until it reaches 5 * network difficulty. After that it is biased every minute by scaling existing HERP down to add the latest minute's HERP and all users' HERP is adjusted by the same scale the pool's was...
Cool. Thanks for the clarifying quote. NP, I find it's always useful to requote the OP to people that seem to have not bothered to read it. Ouch... Actually, I previously read all 1,068 words--yep, I counted 'em--of both the Home page and the first post here; however, I must've forgot that it specifically stated that the users' HERP also adheres to the 5Nd. Maybe what threw me off was how the "[r]ewards accumulate from blocks worked on even if miners are not scheduled for a payout". Hopefully I'm not missing where it specifically states that those accumulated rewards are also diminished along with the rest of the HERP, but I'll just consider that to be the case unless told otherwise. Thanks again!
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March 17, 2018, 09:17:08 PM |
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Ahhhhh... That would also explain how/why the derp does the two steps forward, one step back thing.... Duh!
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March 19, 2018, 03:29:22 PM |
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I have approx 1PH. Would it be easy to configure my Avalon’s to point to this pool? I e tried to read through as much as possible, but it seems different than other pools I’ve used. (slush and NiceHash)
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I have approx 1PH. Would it be easy to configure my Avalon’s to point to this pool? I e tried to read through as much as possible, but it seems different than other pools I’ve used. (slush and NiceHash)
Mining on this pool is as easy as any other. Point your miners to pool.ckpool.org:3333, with your username as the wallet address you want to send your earned BTC too, and with password x. Rewards will be larger but less often at this pool due to the lower hashrate. And getting in the top 100 for being paid each time a block is found shouldn't be an issue of you have 1PH rate.
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crypto_curious
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March 19, 2018, 09:59:19 PM |
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I have approx 1PH. Would it be easy to configure my Avalon’s to point to this pool? I e tried to read through as much as possible, but it seems different than other pools I’ve used. (slush and NiceHash)
Mining on this pool is as easy as any other. Point your miners to pool.ckpool.org:3333, with your username as the wallet address you want to send your earned BTC too, and with password x. Rewards will be larger but less often at this pool due to the lower hashrate. And getting in the top 100 for being paid each time a block is found shouldn't be an issue of you have 1PH rate. Yeah, and in the longterm, you will have much more than on Nicehash, which doesn't pay for Tx fees. I pointed 2x Antminer S9 here so far, along with Antminer U3 (little UFO)
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March 20, 2018, 01:39:10 AM |
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I have approx 1PH. Would it be easy to configure my Avalon’s to point to this pool? I e tried to read through as much as possible, but it seems different than other pools I’ve used. (slush and NiceHash)
You won't have a problem getting on the payout list quickly and in the long run should do well with 1PH.
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March 20, 2018, 05:57:26 AM |
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Question about shares and the difficulty level:
Over in the support thread for the new terminus miners, we are working on correcting a USB traffic load problem that seems to pop up with multiple miners. Someone floated the idea of using the -suggest diff setting to increase the recognized shares difficulty.
If that ends up working, would that negatively impact our shares in this pool? For the solo pool it makes no difference as the only thing that matters is a hash enough to solve a block... But on this pool our contribution is accumulated over time. Would a suggest diff of, say, 100,000 therefore end up with less herp/derp than one of 40?
It may be a moot point because your pool automatically adjusts to the miner within minutes regardless of the difficulty level...
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-ck (OP)
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March 20, 2018, 05:59:37 AM |
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Question about shares and the difficulty level:
Over in the support thread for the new terminus miners, we are working on correcting a USB traffic load problem that seems to pop up with multiple miners. Someone floated the idea of using the -suggest diff setting to increase the recognized shares difficulty.
If that ends up working, would that negatively impact our shares in this pool? For the solo pool it makes no difference as the only thing that matters is a hash enough to solve a block... But on this pool our contribution is accumulated over time. Would a suggest diff of, say, 100,000 therefore end up with less herp/derp than one of 40?
It may be a moot point because your pool automatically adjusts to the miner within minutes regardless of the difficulty level...
Increasing the suggested diff beyond what the pool sets will decrease your bandwidth but increase your variance. Overall your share payout will pretty much end up the same but fluctuate a bit more. Given this pool finds blocks every few weeks I doubt you'll notice any difference whatsoever so if you're trying to decrease bandwidth it's a fine way to do it.
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-ck (OP)
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March 20, 2018, 10:11:52 AM |
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I have approx 1PH. Would it be easy to configure my Avalon’s to point to this pool? I e tried to read through as much as possible, but it seems different than other pools I’ve used. (slush and NiceHash)
You'd be most welcome here. There is no need for setting up an account or registering so it's actually easier. Just set the pool to pool.ckpool.org:3333 , the username to your chosen bitcoin address (use the same on all miners) and any password you like.
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Developer/maintainer for cgminer, ckpool/ckproxy, and the -ck kernel 2% Fee Solo mining at solo.ckpool.org -ck
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