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[UAE Seasider]

I am looking at the participation in NVO more as buying shares in a company than simply a crypto, as they will distribute revenue from earnings.

From the Whitepaper
"50% of all fees per trade on the exchange will be automatically distributed to addresses with NVOT
on a weekly basis in the form of NVOS when the exchange is production ready. NVOS will have a
fixed price of $0.99 and can be traded for Bitcoin automatically using Counterparty exchange or
through the validator without fees. NVOT price will not be fixed and will be decided by the market."

With 15,000,000 NVO at a launch price of $0.51 they only need to generate fees of approx $16 m in a year and holders recoup 100% of their initial investment as a steady income stream year on year.

Any price appreciation of the NVOT on exchanges in the mean time will be a bonus for short term profiteers, but I can see many more advantages in holding if they deliver a successful product.

[SEnergy]

I can buy some of them after some of u get in wallet. You can send me pm and price want you want. Ty

$10/NVOT

If everything works as described the developers, each holder of NVOT tokens will receive 0.2% weekly of the trading volume on a decentralized exchanger, which will be created by the NVO team.
If now an approximate daily trading volume $ 4 billion, and for example 25% ($ 1 billion) of this volume will be processed on a decentralized exchanger, then each owner of NVOT tokens will receive weekly about $ 0.93 per token or about 3,72 dollars monthly)))
 ( (1,000,000,000 * 0.2%) / 15,000,000 (total number of tokens) ) * 7 days = $ 0.93

If you have for example 1000 NVOT, then weekly you will receive $ 930 or $ 3720 monthly

And now imagine if the share of the decentralized exchanger will be 50% or 75% of the total volume)))

Or if the daily trading volume will be 10 billion)))

like... what was your point? do you think I invested only by randomly dropping by, not doing my math? also your numbers are ridiculously unrealistic and wrong... 1 billion DAILY trading volume? yeah, in 5 years... also you can't just randomly double the trading volume... it's (NVOTshare / 15000000) * fees * 0.5 * volume, I'm not sure about the fees, the volume already includes BOTH, taker's and a maker's sales

[migello]

With 15,000,000 NVO at a launch price of $0.51 they only need to generate fees of approx $16 m in a year and holders recoup 100% of their initial investment as a steady income stream year on year.

so, $16 m a year of fees is 8 Bil a year of volume, / 365 days = about $22 M a day volume, quite conservative IMHO

i think, with some money for PR, volume will be from half (75 mil) or same as REX (150 mil a day)

if a strong PR and gaining ground in the asian Markets MAYBE 200/250 mil a day in the best projection.

[Knepala]

I can buy some of them after some of u get in wallet. You can send me pm and price want you want. Ty

$10/NVOT

If everything works as described the developers, each holder of NVOT tokens will receive 0.2% weekly of the trading volume on a decentralized exchanger, which will be created by the NVO team.
If now an approximate daily trading volume $ 4 billion, and for example 25% ($ 1 billion) of this volume will be processed on a decentralized exchanger, then each owner of NVOT tokens will receive weekly about $ 0.93 per token or about 3,72 dollars monthly)))
 ( (1,000,000,000 * 0.2%) / 15,000,000 (total number of tokens) ) * 7 days = $ 0.93

If you have for example 1000 NVOT, then weekly you will receive $ 930 or $ 3720 monthly

And now imagine if the share of the decentralized exchanger will be 50% or 75% of the total volume)))

Or if the daily trading volume will be 10 billion)))

It's 
your NVO share * 0,5 * 0,002 of the trading volume.

No, it is NVO share * 0,5 * 0,002 * 2, because the 0.2% fee is paid by maker AND taker.

Yes you are correct, had not taken that in account.

[Taki]

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I know what you mean and that there has to be a deadline and i will accept it even when it is the lower one.
But what i mean is it was just 1 unlucky day for all cryptos especially for Eth so it would be pretty nice if we imagined Deadline day would be 1 day later.
Also you have to think this was only possible becaus NVO delayed the deadline Day if they didnt do this they had a far more realistic price for the cryptocurrency than they have now. (hope it was understandable)
Also lets not argument and hope for a good working project , im just as you say a little bit sad becaus there is a difference over 600$ from yesterday and today for me and i would say the todays price(its not even that high) reflect much more the eth price of the past 2-3 weeks than yesterday that was an exception.

but since coins went down almost by the same %, everyone lost basically same amount, not only you, so with your investment you should get almost the same amount of NVOT as you'd get any other day... as you said, the WHOLE cryptomarket went down in the last 2 days, even LTC, XRP, ETC, DASH and other currencies people used to invest as well - everyone "lost" investment in regards to $, but not in regards to NVOT

That fall of almost all crypto-currencies happened because of speculative news about ETH creator and it wasn't leading long, as I think red color had place to be only two days. I think that wasn't a reason for panic, but it was a reason to buy cheap coins  

[DotNetApp]

I can buy some of them after some of u get in wallet. You can send me pm and price want you want. Ty

$10/NVOT

If everything works as described the developers, each holder of NVOT tokens will receive 0.2% weekly of the trading volume on a decentralized exchanger, which will be created by the NVO team.
If now an approximate daily trading volume $ 4 billion, and for example 25% ($ 1 billion) of this volume will be processed on a decentralized exchanger, then each owner of NVOT tokens will receive weekly about $ 0.93 per token or about 3,72 dollars monthly)))
 ( (1,000,000,000 * 0.2%) / 15,000,000 (total number of tokens) ) * 7 days = $ 0.93

If you have for example 1000 NVOT, then weekly you will receive $ 930 or $ 3720 monthly

And now imagine if the share of the decentralized exchanger will be 50% or 75% of the total volume)))

Or if the daily trading volume will be 10 billion)))

like... what was your point? do you think I invested only by randomly dropping by, not doing my math? also your numbers are ridiculously unrealistic and wrong... 1 billion DAILY trading volume? yeah, in 5 years... also you can't just randomly double the trading volume... it's (NVOTshare / 15000000) * fees * 0.5 * volume, I'm not sure about the fees, the volume already includes BOTH, taker's and a maker's sales

yea that is the exact formula its still pretty decent lets say we have a weekly trading volume of 10,000,000 $ and only 0,2% fees (to lowball it we say only holder pays the fees)


EDIT Calculation:
(1000/15000000)*0,002*0,5*10000000  = 0,667$

[SEnergy]

I can buy some of them after some of u get in wallet. You can send me pm and price want you want. Ty

$10/NVOT

If everything works as described the developers, each holder of NVOT tokens will receive 0.2% weekly of the trading volume on a decentralized exchanger, which will be created by the NVO team.
If now an approximate daily trading volume $ 4 billion, and for example 25% ($ 1 billion) of this volume will be processed on a decentralized exchanger, then each owner of NVOT tokens will receive weekly about $ 0.93 per token or about 3,72 dollars monthly)))
 ( (1,000,000,000 * 0.2%) / 15,000,000 (total number of tokens) ) * 7 days = $ 0.93

If you have for example 1000 NVOT, then weekly you will receive $ 930 or $ 3720 monthly

And now imagine if the share of the decentralized exchanger will be 50% or 75% of the total volume)))

Or if the daily trading volume will be 10 billion)))

like... what was your point? do you think I invested only by randomly dropping by, not doing my math? also your numbers are ridiculously unrealistic and wrong... 1 billion DAILY trading volume? yeah, in 5 years... also you can't just randomly double the trading volume... it's (NVOTshare / 15000000) * fees * 0.5 * volume, I'm not sure about the fees, the volume already includes BOTH, taker's and a maker's sales

yea that is the exact formula its still pretty decent lets say we have a weekly trading volume of 10,000,000 $ and only 0,2% fees (to lowball it we say only holder pays the fees)

(1000/15000000)*0,2*0,5*10000000  = 66,667$ and i would say 10,000,000 Trading Volume a week is really realistic or not?
And 66,667$ a week is pretty nice if you take in account that you had to pay around 510$ for the 1000 NVOT, so after around 8 weeks you got your invest back.

0.2% is 0.002, not 0.2, so its 0.66667$/week, also again, the volume already includes both sides - maker and a taker, so when a trade of 1BTC to 8ETH is made, that's 2 BTC volume, not 1 BTC, doubling it again (the volume, the 2 BTC) is nonsense

[UAE Seasider]

With 15,000,000 NVO at a launch price of $0.51 they only need to generate fees of approx $16 m in a year and holders recoup 100% of their initial investment as a steady income stream year on year.

so, $16 m a year of fees is 8 Bil a year of volume, / 365 days = about $22 M a day volume, quite conservative IMHO

i think, with some money for PR, volume will be from half (75 mil) or same as REX (150 mil a day)

if a strong PR and gaining ground in the asian Markets MAYBE 200/250 mil a day in the best projection.

Yes I know very conservative but I think it nicely demonstrates how little is needed to reap even a modest return.

[hellflame]

Important thing is realisation of decentralized exchange so we no longer are help captive by centralized one who can go bankrupt or be hacked and all our funds lost.

[DotNetApp]

I can buy some of them after some of u get in wallet. You can send me pm and price want you want. Ty

$10/NVOT

If everything works as described the developers, each holder of NVOT tokens will receive 0.2% weekly of the trading volume on a decentralized exchanger, which will be created by the NVO team.
If now an approximate daily trading volume $ 4 billion, and for example 25% ($ 1 billion) of this volume will be processed on a decentralized exchanger, then each owner of NVOT tokens will receive weekly about $ 0.93 per token or about 3,72 dollars monthly)))
 ( (1,000,000,000 * 0.2%) / 15,000,000 (total number of tokens) ) * 7 days = $ 0.93

If you have for example 1000 NVOT, then weekly you will receive $ 930 or $ 3720 monthly

And now imagine if the share of the decentralized exchanger will be 50% or 75% of the total volume)))

Or if the daily trading volume will be 10 billion)))

like... what was your point? do you think I invested only by randomly dropping by, not doing my math? also your numbers are ridiculously unrealistic and wrong... 1 billion DAILY trading volume? yeah, in 5 years... also you can't just randomly double the trading volume... it's (NVOTshare / 15000000) * fees * 0.5 * volume, I'm not sure about the fees, the volume already includes BOTH, taker's and a maker's sales

yea that is the exact formula its still pretty decent lets say we have a weekly trading volume of 10,000,000 $ and only 0,2% fees (to lowball it we say only holder pays the fees)

(1000/15000000)*0,2*0,5*10000000  = 66,667$ and i would say 10,000,000 Trading Volume a week is really realistic or not?
And 66,667$ a week is pretty nice if you take in account that you had to pay around 510$ for the 1000 NVOT, so after around 8 weeks you got your invest back.

0.2% is 0.002, not 0.2, so its 0.66667$/week, also again, the volume already includes both sides - maker and a taker, so when a trade of 1BTC to 8ETH is made, that's 2 BTC volume, not 1 BTC, doubling it again (the volume, the 2 BTC) is nonsense

UUps you are right what a stupid mistake from me (and i study computer science.....) .
How high would you estimate the weekly trading volume for the start 10.000.000 is a bit high or not would say around 1kk to 5kk would be realistic.

[kamar]

I can buy some of them after some of u get in wallet. You can send me pm and price want you want. Ty

$10/NVOT

If everything works as described the developers, each holder of NVOT tokens will receive 0.2% weekly of the trading volume on a decentralized exchanger, which will be created by the NVO team.
If now an approximate daily trading volume $ 4 billion, and for example 25% ($ 1 billion) of this volume will be processed on a decentralized exchanger, then each owner of NVOT tokens will receive weekly about $ 0.93 per token or about 3,72 dollars monthly)))
 ( (1,000,000,000 * 0.2%) / 15,000,000 (total number of tokens) ) * 7 days = $ 0.93

If you have for example 1000 NVOT, then weekly you will receive $ 930 or $ 3720 monthly

And now imagine if the share of the decentralized exchanger will be 50% or 75% of the total volume)))

Or if the daily trading volume will be 10 billion)))

like... what was your point? do you think I invested only by randomly dropping by, not doing my math? also your numbers are ridiculously unrealistic and wrong... 1 billion DAILY trading volume? yeah, in 5 years... also you can't just randomly double the trading volume... it's (NVOTshare / 15000000) * fees * 0.5 * volume, I'm not sure about the fees, the volume already includes BOTH, taker's and a maker's sales

I want just tell that 10$ is it very small, I think 100$  per one token will be good

Still very, very small amount people use crypto currency, so trading volume will increasing

Perhaps the fees will be pay only by makers or takers(but I've seen information about fees paid maker and taker 0.2% each) but still it does not really change the situation

[DotNetApp]

I can buy some of them after some of u get in wallet. You can send me pm and price want you want. Ty

$10/NVOT

If everything works as described the developers, each holder of NVOT tokens will receive 0.2% weekly of the trading volume on a decentralized exchanger, which will be created by the NVO team.
If now an approximate daily trading volume $ 4 billion, and for example 25% ($ 1 billion) of this volume will be processed on a decentralized exchanger, then each owner of NVOT tokens will receive weekly about $ 0.93 per token or about 3,72 dollars monthly)))
 ( (1,000,000,000 * 0.2%) / 15,000,000 (total number of tokens) ) * 7 days = $ 0.93

If you have for example 1000 NVOT, then weekly you will receive $ 930 or $ 3720 monthly

And now imagine if the share of the decentralized exchanger will be 50% or 75% of the total volume)))

Or if the daily trading volume will be 10 billion)))

like... what was your point? do you think I invested only by randomly dropping by, not doing my math? also your numbers are ridiculously unrealistic and wrong... 1 billion DAILY trading volume? yeah, in 5 years... also you can't just randomly double the trading volume... it's (NVOTshare / 15000000) * fees * 0.5 * volume, I'm not sure about the fees, the volume already includes BOTH, taker's and a maker's sales

I want just tell that 10$ is it very small, I think 100$  per one token will be good

Still very, very small amount people use crypto currency, so trading volume will increasing

Perhaps the fees will be pay only by makers or takers(but I've seen information about fees paid maker and taker 0.2% each) but still it does not really change the situation

10$ isnt low lol you would get around 19x your invest lol 100$ would be crazy than i would be close to be a millionaire .

[thesavoyard]

The time-stamp for the conversion rates is: 19:00 UTC - 28/06/2017.

Total BTC raised (at these exchange rates): 3055.120324
Total USD raised at the BTC-USD price (Bitstamp): 7790556.826
This means that any price changes for you, as an investor, no longer matter. You can use these numbers to estimate the number of tokens that you will receive.

Based on the totals from Lauda
The initial price of one NVO is going to be:

BTC 0.00020367
USD 0.51937

Which is a major loss. How did you come up with that number?

Could you elaborate what you mean by major loss?

What I mean by major loss is my wife pointed out my math sucks and we will be receiving twice as many tokens as I calculated.

[AjithBtc]

The time-stamp for the conversion rates is: 19:00 UTC - 28/06/2017.

Total BTC raised (at these exchange rates): 3055.120324
Total USD raised at the BTC-USD price (Bitstamp): 7790556.826
This means that any price changes for you, as an investor, no longer matter. You can use these numbers to estimate the number of tokens that you will receive.

Based on the totals from Lauda
The initial price of one NVO is going to be:

BTC 0.00020367
USD 0.51937

Which is a major loss. How did you come up with that number?

Could you elaborate what you mean by major loss?

What I mean by major loss is my wife pointed out my math sucks and we will be receiving twice as many tokens as I calculated.

Each token getting a value of more than half the dollar is simply good for for the investors. In a short this could give at least a pumping close to $150%, because even the low investment ICO's has gained such a price pumping. So this will surely happen with our NVO tokens.

[n1que]

Issuing Tokens on July 1st 2017

a note for myself

but an email notification in my mailbox would be very helpful

[Albortz]

I will buy some of your tokens later on.

Even tho I might pay premium (not sure about it actually) at least I will know everything is coded and running.

These kind of investments without a track record or little is not my thing.


But congrats to all who participated

[slaman29]

Nice to speculate on how much we could earn, but I feel even the numbers used are far too high for a new service that will really take patience. I might even say a lot of patience. Weeks at the minimum to see the first gains. But I hope to be proven wrong!

[KeyJockey]

Nice to speculate on how much we could earn, but I feel even the numbers used are far too high for a new service that will really take patience. I might even say a lot of patience. Weeks at the minimum to see the first gains. But I hope to be proven wrong!

Those numbers are high, optimistic, yes... but more realistically I think I remember reading something posted by one of the NVO devs someplace where they said they're aiming to achieve transaction volume on the exchange to be able to pay about a penny a day per NVOT to all holders.

For someone who invested 1 BTC in the crowdsale and who now will HODL approximately 5,000 tokens, this would amount to a continuous passive-income stream of about $1,500 per month, received in bitcoin (?) directly to your associated BTC address connected to your NVO.  A pretty nice setup for sure

To do this, the exchange would have to spin out about $150,000 worth of commission income per day (a penny per 15 million NVOT tokens) and to get to that, at 0.2% vig rate (half of the 0.004 total charged to maker/taker) they'll have to be moving about $750,000,000 (750 Million) $75,000,000 (75 Million) thru the exchange on a daily basis (NOTE: Edited per correction below, my bad math LOL sorry).

Yes it's a big number for a startup company that hasn't barely even written ANY code yet, LOL, but to me it's do-able.

Just pulling a random guess number out of my ass I'm giving it about 20% odds of success on 80% odds of failure: that means maybe lose a bitcoin today, that's worth about $2500, at eighty percent likely (let's be real: ICO's are gambling LOL) but on the other hand, 20% odds of having a permanent, continuous passive income of $18,000 per year in a couple years...?

That's a pretty good bet

Let's just hope the guys can really DO it, eh?  LOL

[FlamingFingers]

What I mean by major loss is my wife pointed out my math sucks and we will be receiving twice as many tokens as I calculated.

I got what you wanted to say, but still, 'major loss' doesn't make any sense.

Issuing Tokens on July 1st 2017

a note for myself

but an email notification in my mailbox would be very helpful

You get an email for investing in the crowdsale, so I believe you will get an email for issued token, as well.

I will buy some of your tokens later on.

Even tho I might pay premium (not sure about it actually) at least I will know everything is coded and running.

These kind of investments without a track record or little is not my thing.


But congrats to all who participated

A non-coded project doesn't necessarily mean that the project itself is bad or fake. There are a lot of pre-coded and ready for the go projects which end up in the trashcan — primarily pre-mined coins.

[migello]

i think the name of tokens are changed (a troll registered the tokens with the previous name and wanted money)

from slack : "NVST is the NVO token name, and NVSX is the secondary token name".

so basically

NVOT ---) NVST
NVOS ---) NVSX


i have tought about NVO name, in my prospective NUO (can be spelled also like new in english "NEWo") is better

NUOT
NUOS