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January 05, 2018, 10:41:15 AM
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While XZC is still profitable for me and maybe has a future, I started with BWK today to see if it's any good. Should make 2x XZC profits (higher power usage though).
Was getting 0.9~ XZC per day in december now just 0.5, this new diff really sucks =/

Jkcrypto has some awesome posts on this, really good updated info for us with 1080 ti!

Were u able to run the miner he posted? Mine crashes with an windows error.
If not, Which miner are u using?
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January 05, 2018, 10:42:37 AM
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Apologies in advance since I imagine this has been covered before.  Basic simple question.

What temp range is safe to run the 1080ti at long term without seriously degrading the longevity of the GPU?

Got my e-bill today and it wasn't as bad as expected.  So am going to push TDP up and get more hash - while also getting more heat.
It's a difficult question to answer. I suggest you watch Gamers Nexus latest Q&A video on youtube, he addresses this point specifically. The general understanding is, as long as your card is not temp throttling, you should be fine. What's most likely to pop are capacitors. They are rated between 5000 and 10000 hours usually.

the capacitors on these cards are rated for 90 000 hours(10 years) @70c.
According to Steve Burke at Gamers Nexus you're looking at 5000 or 10000 hours @ 105C.
Not saying it is gospel, just parroting what he says.
Video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WWfj7RF_z8&t=874s
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Are there really people running their GPU's at 105C?
I dont believe so, to much throttle to run it at that temp
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January 05, 2018, 10:58:00 AM
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Apologies in advance since I imagine this has been covered before.  Basic simple question.

What temp range is safe to run the 1080ti at long term without seriously degrading the longevity of the GPU?

Got my e-bill today and it wasn't as bad as expected.  So am going to push TDP up and get more hash - while also getting more heat.
It's a difficult question to answer. I suggest you watch Gamers Nexus latest Q&A video on youtube, he addresses this point specifically. The general understanding is, as long as your card is not temp throttling, you should be fine. What's most likely to pop are capacitors. They are rated between 5000 and 10000 hours usually.

the capacitors on these cards are rated for 90 000 hours(10 years) @70c.
According to Steve Burke at Gamers Nexus you're looking at 5000 or 10000 hours @ 105C.
Not saying it is gospel, just parroting what he says.
Video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WWfj7RF_z8&t=874s
For everyone's benefit and enjoyment...

I could care less about that nobody, its right on some 1080Ti boxes btw.
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January 05, 2018, 10:59:37 AM
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Apologies in advance since I imagine this has been covered before.  Basic simple question.

What temp range is safe to run the 1080ti at long term without seriously degrading the longevity of the GPU?

Got my e-bill today and it wasn't as bad as expected.  So am going to push TDP up and get more hash - while also getting more heat.
It's a difficult question to answer. I suggest you watch Gamers Nexus latest Q&A video on youtube, he addresses this point specifically. The general understanding is, as long as your card is not temp throttling, you should be fine. What's most likely to pop are capacitors. They are rated between 5000 and 10000 hours usually.

the capacitors on these cards are rated for 90 000 hours(10 years) @70c.
According to Steve Burke at Gamers Nexus you're looking at 5000 or 10000 hours @ 105C.
Not saying it is gospel, just parroting what he says.
Video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WWfj7RF_z8&t=874s
For everyone's benefit and enjoyment...

Are there really people running their GPU's at 105C?
I dont believe so, to much throttle to run it at that temp

no matter what you read, dont go over 70C if you want to use your card more than 4 years. Going over 75C is asking for problem...
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January 05, 2018, 11:23:36 AM
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Apologies in advance since I imagine this has been covered before.  Basic simple question.

What temp range is safe to run the 1080ti at long term without seriously degrading the longevity of the GPU?

Got my e-bill today and it wasn't as bad as expected.  So am going to push TDP up and get more hash - while also getting more heat.
It's a difficult question to answer. I suggest you watch Gamers Nexus latest Q&A video on youtube, he addresses this point specifically. The general understanding is, as long as your card is not temp throttling, you should be fine. What's most likely to pop are capacitors. They are rated between 5000 and 10000 hours usually.

the capacitors on these cards are rated for 90 000 hours(10 years) @70c.
According to Steve Burke at Gamers Nexus you're looking at 5000 or 10000 hours @ 105C.
Not saying it is gospel, just parroting what he says.
Video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WWfj7RF_z8&t=874s
For everyone's benefit and enjoyment...

I could care less about that nobody, its right on some 1080Ti boxes btw.

from MSI's website:
All Solid Capacitors
    10 years long lifetime under full load.
    Lower temperature and higher efficiency.
    Aluminum core for higher stability.
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti-Founders-Edition.html

Infos are more specifics (with 2 charts) on the box with lifespan expectancy according to the temperature.  Ill grab a picture next time I see it.
These infos are clearly made for rendering software users (and miners Wink )
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January 05, 2018, 11:27:42 AM
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How much underwolt are you guys able to run on your cards while still overclocking? Im running my cards at around +100 core while having 90% power draw.
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January 05, 2018, 11:43:55 AM
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How much underwolt are you guys able to run on your cards while still overclocking? Im running my cards at around +100 core while having 90% power draw.

I guess it depends of the algorithm/miner
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January 05, 2018, 12:01:50 PM
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the capacitors on these cards are rated for 90 000 hours(10 years) @70c.
According to Steve Burke at Gamers Nexus you're looking at 5000 or 10000 hours @ 105C.
Not saying it is gospel, just parroting what he says.
Video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WWfj7RF_z8&t=874s
For everyone's benefit and enjoyment...

Are there really people running their GPU's at 105C?
I dont believe so, to much throttle to run it at that temp

vrms can hit 100+ *C

anyway i have run various cards for years 24/7/365 at folding and mining, only lost a couple fans. but i do keep them clean and cool(ish).
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January 05, 2018, 02:10:51 PM
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the capacitors on these cards are rated for 90 000 hours(10 years) @70c.
According to Steve Burke at Gamers Nexus you're looking at 5000 or 10000 hours @ 105C.
Not saying it is gospel, just parroting what he says.
Video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WWfj7RF_z8&t=874s
For everyone's benefit and enjoyment...

Are there really people running their GPU's at 105C?
I dont believe so, to much throttle to run it at that temp

vrms can hit 100+ *C

anyway i have run various cards for years 24/7/365 at folding and mining, only lost a couple fans. but i do keep them clean and cool(ish).

you forget other parts on the card that cant handle these temp for a long time without being affect. The cards are built to run @70C, its a fact. Now if you want to go ahead and run them @85C its your business.
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January 05, 2018, 02:33:35 PM
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How much underwolt are you guys able to run on your cards while still overclocking? Im running my cards at around +100 core while having 90% power draw.
Thats where silicon lottery kicks in as some of the cards are already maxed out at factory settings like aorus extreme  while others are can be oc without problem.Also different algos different power draw and oc
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January 05, 2018, 05:10:43 PM
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you forget other parts on the card that cant handle these temp for a long time without being affect. The cards are built to run @70C, its a fact. Now if you want to go ahead and run them @85C its your business.

Where this 'fact' comes from?. Even working temperature of CPU depend on each generation. No air-cooled 1080ti will run @70 C in any demanding game. You can argue that's only for short sessions, but the world is full of crazy gamers miners.  Many of them run in SLI, where the card on the top will reach  85C easily. 

I think the lifetime  depends on the card quality. I  put my money in a hight quality board, like these of FTW3/Srix/Lighting/etc,  running at 75C 24/365 instead of a cheap card running at 65C  24/365.

All this discussion is a bit silly.  As long as  the card is under warranty it's a manufacturer's problem, not our business,  to make sure  that the card is not fried under extreme conditions while the warranty is active.






 
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January 05, 2018, 05:43:52 PM
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you forget other parts on the card that cant handle these temp for a long time without being affect. The cards are built to run @70C, its a fact. Now if you want to go ahead and run them @85C its your business.

Where this 'fact' comes from?.
 

1080Ti boxes, MSI website (read my previous post)
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you forget other parts on the card that cant handle these temp for a long time without being affect. The cards are built to run @70C, its a fact. Now if you want to go ahead and run them @85C its your business.

Where this 'fact' comes from?.

 

after 70C you get a significant lifespan drop , even mining softwares change the color from green to yellow as soon as a card reach 70C

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January 05, 2018, 06:03:38 PM
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Damn, just saw http://pools.you-stupid-woman.com/, thats pretty cool, think i might use that
If it works out nice ill make sure send small tip hehe
Thx for the contribution man

Thanks. Just something I made. I was working on an advanced version, but no seemed to care so..

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January 05, 2018, 06:03:42 PM
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the capacitors on these cards are rated for 90 000 hours(10 years) @70c.
According to Steve Burke at Gamers Nexus you're looking at 5000 or 10000 hours @ 105C.
Not saying it is gospel, just parroting what he says.
Video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WWfj7RF_z8&t=874s
For everyone's benefit and enjoyment...

Are there really people running their GPU's at 105C?
I dont believe so, to much throttle to run it at that temp

vrms can hit 100+ *C

anyway i have run various cards for years 24/7/365 at folding and mining, only lost a couple fans. but i do keep them clean and cool(ish).

you forget other parts on the card that cant handle these temp for a long time without being affect. The cards are built to run @70C, its a fact. Now if you want to go ahead and run them @85C its your business.

hey i run mine in the mid 60s on gpus, and my evga 1070tis/sapphires 390s can tell vrm temps too (mid 50s to mid 60s *C). ill take me chances Wink

but some cards had stupid hot vrms and right next to cheap(ish) caps, i agree with that.. dont recall which models through, read about it in reviews at anandtech i believe. no idea how they fared on long term compute usage.
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January 05, 2018, 06:43:30 PM
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Damn, just saw http://pools.you-stupid-woman.com/, thats pretty cool, think i might use that
If it works out nice ill make sure send small tip hehe
Thx for the contribution man

Thanks. Just something I made. I was working on an advanced version, but no seemed to care so..
What you've got there is great. I've probably referred to it a dozen times in the last few days. Thank you.
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January 05, 2018, 06:45:18 PM
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What you've got there is great. I've probably referred to it a dozen times in the last few days. Thank you.

You're welcome. Smiley

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January 05, 2018, 07:48:36 PM
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you forget other parts on the card that cant handle these temp for a long time without being affect. The cards are built to run @70C, its a fact. Now if you want to go ahead and run them @85C its your business.

Where this 'fact' comes from?.

 

after 70C you get a significant lifespan drop , even mining softwares change the color from green to yellow as soon as a card reach 70C




Well the science is settled then. The miner changed the color so 70c is it.
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January 05, 2018, 08:05:50 PM
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you forget other parts on the card that cant handle these temp for a long time without being affect. The cards are built to run @70C, its a fact. Now if you want to go ahead and run them @85C its your business.

Where this 'fact' comes from?.

 

after 70C you get a significant lifespan drop , even mining softwares change the color from green to yellow as soon as a card reach 70C




Well the science is settled then. The miner changed the color so 70c is it.

what a fcking idiot, lol, I blame your parents.
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January 05, 2018, 08:21:18 PM
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While XZC is still profitable for me and maybe has a future, I started with BWK today to see if it's any good. Should make 2x XZC profits (higher power usage though).
Was getting 0.9~ XZC per day in december now just 0.5, this new diff really sucks =/

Jkcrypto has some awesome posts on this, really good updated info for us with 1080 ti!

Were u able to run the miner he posted? Mine crashes with an windows error.
If not, Which miner are u using?

Yep I'm using the miner he posted. It's just a CC miner modded (palgin version)
I'm running win 7, if you are running something else try comp mode maybe? Or try other ccminer unmodded.
I'm getting 88mh/s with 100% power +75 core +0 mem

Been mining for around 18 hours and I have probably around 0.79 BWKs (since pool deposits every 4~ hours and its been a few hours without deposits). Since BWK is around $10, I guess $10 per day is pretty accurate!
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