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Seems like your main agenda here is to discredit Nimiq as a project and, in order to do that, you always use this kind of FUD theories. There is a lot of discussion about that in the same Reddit post that you talk about and doesn't make sense to copy/paste a month-old discussion here (anyone interested can find it there). The real question here is why are you spamming FUD about things not related to the project itself but about variables controlled by an entire market. See. It is exactly what I am pointing about. You just don't discuss facts and just shout at me making me the boogeyman. While the truth is never brought to light by you. You just "forgot" (of course intentionally) to discuss about my 2 true facts. 1. Robin has exited the project. Nobody knows NOTHING about Robin in the last 6 months. Not even one photo, one video, one sound. NOTHING. ZERO proof. He did not use facebook, twitter or anything. I believe he just exit scammed when he saw that the project will become bankrupt. 2. We need a TRANSPARENCY REPORT of how much MONEY you still have. A group of people including me believe that you will become bankrupt next year. Is it TRUE? Your burning rate is 250-300K USD per month, while the project looks almost dead from an outsider view. We need a report, how how much money you still have and how much money you generate and burn every month. 1. That is not a fact, but just you and your theories again. Discussing this with you makes no sense since you made your mind already and you are not asking anything but spamming FUD. THAT is a fact. 2. We do have a transparency report: https://medium.com/nimiq-network/transparency-report-74d4d89933fe. We also recently shared the latest upgrades to the Ecosystem: https://medium.com/nimiq-network/nim-is-coming-to-town-23c28d687ffb. But there is more prepared for the next months as we don't promise but we do deliver. Your personal opinion does not summarize the feeling of an entire community. If you were part of the Nimiq community you would be more informed and you'd know that this project is very much alive.
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1. What ROBIN did he create or do in the last 6 months. His last message is about 7 months ago. He did not research anything. He did not deliver anything. This is just a BS story to make us tricked that he never exited the project. He did! Just admit it! There is no input and content from Robin. He is not present in the project. He did not brought anything new to the table. Simple, he doesn't exist in the nimiq project anymore because he exited the project. Are the rumors right that ROBIN had a physical fight with the other developers from the team and he needed hospitalization? 2. The Transparency reported is ~ 6 months old. Same bullshit. I was asking for a NEW TRANSPARENCY REPORT about your funding and how much Funds you do still have from the ICO. The market has crashed along with your funds from banks and cryptowallets! We believe that the Team Nimiq will became bankrupt next year because of the high burning rate and downfall of the crypto market. Just write a new report with how much money you still have and don't bullshit with content like "for this ICO we bought a 1 million dollar villa in Costa Rica, while we have 4 dudes in the house and another 2 dudes in Germany". Thanks ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif)
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1. Robin has exited the project. Nobody knows NOTHING about Robin in the last 6 months. Not even one photo, one video, one sound. NOTHING. ZERO proof. He did not use facebook, twitter or anything. I believe he just exit scammed when he saw that the project will become bankrupt.
Robin was active on Telegram to explain what he was gonna do over the next months. You can read a transcript here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nimiq/comments/9dgkuw/breakfast_with_robin/2. We need a TRANSPARENCY REPORT of how much MONEY you still have. A group of people including me believe that you will become bankrupt next year. Is it TRUE? Your burning rate is 250-300K USD per month, while the project looks almost dead from an outsider view. We need a report, how how much money you still have and how much money you generate and burn every month.
There is a transparency report at https://medium.com/nimiq-network/transparency-report-74d4d89933fe - as you used the term and numbers from it, I guess you already know about that. I don't think it is necessary for them to publish a report every week, the last one is not even 4 months old. Using the numbers there and considering the changes in BTC and ETH prices as well as their monthly burn rate, I estimate they should at least own about 8 Mio. USD worth of assets - even with a way higher burn rate, that will still be enough for more than a year and they will also get their additional NIM released every 6 months, so nothing to fear about right now.
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1. Robin has exited the project. Nobody knows NOTHING about Robin in the last 6 months. Not even one photo, one video, one sound. NOTHING. ZERO proof. He did not use facebook, twitter or anything. I believe he just exit scammed when he saw that the project will become bankrupt.
Robin was active on Telegram to explain what he was gonna do over the next months. You can read a transcript here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nimiq/comments/9dgkuw/breakfast_with_robin/It was only ONE conversation on telegram that lasted 2 hours and it was 3 months and 20 days ago! No new information from the CEO of this Project in almost 4 months! What is new about his research? Why he doesn't post anything on facebook, on twitter, on GitHub ( absolutely no commits) NOTHING. There is a transparency report at https://medium.com/nimiq-network/transparency-report-74d4d89933fe - as you used the term and numbers from it, I guess you already know about that. I don't think it is necessary for them to publish a report every week, the last one is not even 4 months old. Using the numbers there and considering the changes in BTC and ETH prices as well as their monthly burn rate, I estimate they should at least own about 8 Mio. USD worth of assets - even with a way higher burn rate, that will still be enough for more than a year and they will also get their additional NIM released every 6 months, so nothing to fear about right now. Totally false. The numbers in the document are at end of July ( ~ 20/08/2017). Now it is almost end of 2018. So there had been over 4 months. I am just asking for a new report about their financial statement due to the fact, we believe the project will become bankrupt next year by 2 reasons. The fall of the crypto market (and their assets as well) and the high burning rate ~ 250-300k usd per month.
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Totally false. The numbers in the document are at end of July ( ~ 20/08/2017). Now it is almost end of 2018. So there had been over 4 months. I am just asking for a new report about their financial statement due to the fact, we believe the project will become bankrupt next year by 2 reasons. The fall of the crypto market (and their assets as well) and the high burning rate ~ 250-300k usd per month.
I have the feeling you are terrible at math. Even if we consider all their crypto assets of end of July worthless (they definitely are not) and assume they won't be able to get rid of their real estate, then they still have 5 Mio USD in Fiat. 5 Mio / 250k/month = 20 months of funds beginning in July, so even with these strong assumptions and assuming no other incomes (they receive NIM through the network) the money will be enough until at least Feb 2020 - and I bet they will find a way to reduce costs should it become necessary.
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1. Robin has exited the project. Nobody knows NOTHING about Robin in the last 6 months. Not even one photo, one video, one sound. NOTHING. ZERO proof. He did not use facebook, twitter or anything. I believe he just exit scammed when he saw that the project will become bankrupt.
Robin was active on Telegram to explain what he was gonna do over the next months. You can read a transcript here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nimiq/comments/9dgkuw/breakfast_with_robin/It was only ONE conversation on telegram that lasted 2 hours and it was 3 months and 20 days ago! No new information from the CEO of this Project in almost 4 months! What is new about his research? Why he doesn't post anything on facebook, on twitter, on GitHub ( absolutely no commits) NOTHING. He never was 'CEO' of Nimiq. Nimiq doesn't have a single decision-making authority. We share decisions among the Team Members. This has been clear all along, please share any public statement where that is informed in a different way. About his research: We recently held some meetings to discuss on how to move forward with his research approach, as you mention, it is his responsibility and something he decided to focus completely on for the last 6 months. As soon as we finish these discussions we will share the information publicly as usual.
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1. What ROBIN did he create or do in the last 6 months. His last message is about 7 months ago. He did not research anything. He did not deliver anything. This is just a BS story to make us tricked that he never exited the project. He did! Just admit it! There is no input and content from Robin. He is not present in the project. He did not brought anything new to the table. Simple, he doesn't exist in the nimiq project anymore because he exited the project. Are the rumors right that ROBIN had a physical fight with the other developers from the team and he needed hospitalization? 2. The Transparency reported is ~ 6 months old. Same bullshit. I was asking for a NEW TRANSPARENCY REPORT about your funding and how much Funds you do still have from the ICO. The market has crashed along with your funds from banks and cryptowallets! We believe that the Team Nimiq will became bankrupt next year because of the high burning rate and downfall of the crypto market. Just write a new report with how much money you still have and don't bullshit with content like "for this ICO we bought a 1 million dollar villa in Costa Rica, while we have 4 dudes in the house and another 2 dudes in Germany". Thanks ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) 1- As commented above we are discussing his research with him. There are no such rumors, it is fake and you are making this up. 2- This is just a bunch of non-sense theories. The transparency report was shared with an honest informative mindset. It took a lot of effort and time. If we were acting as you suggest then we would have just never released it in the first place.
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1. Robin has exited the project. Nobody knows NOTHING about Robin in the last 6 months. Not even one photo, one video, one sound. NOTHING. ZERO proof. He did not use facebook, twitter or anything. I believe he just exit scammed when he saw that the project will become bankrupt.
Robin was active on Telegram to explain what he was gonna do over the next months. You can read a transcript here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nimiq/comments/9dgkuw/breakfast_with_robin/It was only ONE conversation on telegram that lasted 2 hours and it was 3 months and 20 days ago! No new information from the CEO of this Project in almost 4 months! What is new about his research? Why he doesn't post anything on facebook, on twitter, on GitHub ( absolutely no commits) NOTHING. He never was 'CEO' of Nimiq. Nimiq doesn't have a single decision-making authority. We share decisions among the Team Members. This has been clear all along, please share any public statement where that is informed in a different way. About his research: We recently held some meetings to discuss on how to move forward with his research approach, as you mention, it is his responsibility and something he decided to focus completely on for the last 6 months. As soon as we finish these discussions we will share the information publicly as usual. Such a big BS i have never seen. Probably only in politics i have seen bigger BS than yours. The guy is the "Creator" of nimiq, and just told me that the guy was not even important in the project, just a fella who was working from time to time to this side-project. Totally false, he envision the entire project, he built the prototype and most of the code! Without Robin, this project couldn't have been done. He was the main character and this is the reason why I put my money during the ICO. Where is this research published? Where is it? Oh boy, you will reply to me: it is a top secret document, the secret service keep it secret to avoid leaks to Satoshi Nakamoto who could steal his neat cutting-edge research. Haha. Pathetic.
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December 28, 2018, 05:20:04 PM |
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1. Robin has exited the project. Nobody knows NOTHING about Robin in the last 6 months. Not even one photo, one video, one sound. NOTHING. ZERO proof. He did not use facebook, twitter or anything. I believe he just exit scammed when he saw that the project will become bankrupt.
Robin was active on Telegram to explain what he was gonna do over the next months. You can read a transcript here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nimiq/comments/9dgkuw/breakfast_with_robin/It was only ONE conversation on telegram that lasted 2 hours and it was 3 months and 20 days ago! No new information from the CEO of this Project in almost 4 months! What is new about his research? Why he doesn't post anything on facebook, on twitter, on GitHub ( absolutely no commits) NOTHING. He never was 'CEO' of Nimiq. Nimiq doesn't have a single decision-making authority. We share decisions among the Team Members. This has been clear all along, please share any public statement where that is informed in a different way. About his research: We recently held some meetings to discuss on how to move forward with his research approach, as you mention, it is his responsibility and something he decided to focus completely on for the last 6 months. As soon as we finish these discussions we will share the information publicly as usual. Such a big BS i have never seen. Probably only in politics i have seen bigger BS than yours. The guy is the "Creator" of nimiq, and just told me that the guy was not even important in the project, just a fella who was working from time to time to this side-project. Totally false, he envision the entire project, he built the prototype and most of the code! Without Robin, this project couldn't have been done. He was the main character and this is the reason why I put my money during the ICO. Where is this research published? Where is it? Oh boy, you will reply to me: it is a top secret document, the secret service keep it secret to avoid leaks to Satoshi Nakamoto who could steal his neat cutting-edge research. Haha. Pathetic. This is clearly a case of lack of information were you seem to have made up your mind with ideas YOU think are true. If there is any blog post, video or official announcement where that is informed in the way you talk please share it. Nimiq website -> https://nimiq.com/en/#teamlists 3 creators. I didn't say he is not 'important' nor that he works on it part-time, just that we don't have hierarchy levels like 'CEO'. Every prototype and app of Nimiq was built by a team. You can check GitHub for that. There is even a nice video that dates September: https://youtu.be/RDkofTS4q48We (Nimiq Community) are building a decentralized payment protocol. The whole idea about a decentralized payment protocol is that it is resilient and censorship-resistant, in other words: it works without you having to trust ANY third party and is very difficult (for all considerations impossible) to block/freeze any user's account/transaction. If you think there is (or has to be) a main character and that everything depends on this one person, you clearly don't understand decentralization. Oh, and yes, research is not public yet.
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You are literally lying. From your telegram comments last day it shows that literally he has exited the project and you DON'T KNOW ANYTHING about Robin, the founder and main guy behind this project. This is due the fact, you are hired to keep the lie to get rolling day after day. These are your comments about the disappeared of Robin from the project. It shows clearly that you don't know where Robin is and what he is doing. Definitely he is not doing any "research" as you are saying. https://i.imgur.com/pY6arO6.pngWhy did you post a video that is 11 months old as a proof of Robin participation in the project? It doesn't make any sense. The only sense you make, is that there is no involvement of Robin in this project for 10-11 months. Why would you lie? Simple. The founder exited the project, the project will become bankrupt next year with all the ICO money, and you Richy are hired to keep the community afloat a few more months.
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The founder exited the project, the project will become bankrupt next year with all the ICO money
You did not answer the most interesting question about your theory: - Will the project become bankrupt because the founder exited or did the founder exit because the project will become bankrupt? - Assuming your theory is true and the team will run out of money next year, what should we as the community do? Crying out loud doesn't help. The Team provided the platform and network they initially announced in the whitepaper and token sale terms. So if they run out of money it boils down to the question: will they or any other people from the community continue their work unpaid or do we as a community need to step up and do a fundraiser to ensure the project will continue?
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December 29, 2018, 06:11:43 PM Last edit: December 29, 2018, 06:53:36 PM by yuluxugi32132 |
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The founder exited the project, the project will become bankrupt next year with all the ICO money
You did not answer the most interesting question about your theory: - Will the project become bankrupt because the founder exited or did the founder exit because the project will become bankrupt? - Assuming your theory is true and the team will run out of money next year, what should we as the community do? Crying out loud doesn't help. The Team provided the platform and network they initially announced in the whitepaper and token sale terms. So if they run out of money it boils down to the question: will they or any other people from the community continue their work unpaid or do we as a community need to step up and do a fundraiser to ensure the project will continue? Definitely nobody will continue this project after it burns out all the money worth of 12 million dollars. All the ICO and all coins will go to dust. Most of the people who are active in this project are just the miners with significant hash rate dumping coins on the market. They are active in this project shilling the project to make other people buy their coins. Most of us believe that Robin has exited the project after he realized that the project will become bankrupt next year. Pretty much he exit-scam the project with some cash letting the boat crush the iceberg after some time (next year). This is the reason why they don't post anything about Robin the founder of the project (there is no new content including him in the last 6 months). He definitely exit scam the project and not "doing any top secret research" ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) I know, I lost a lot of money funding this ICO. I am -90% of my investment, but at least I want to make the truth to be revealed.
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December 29, 2018, 09:49:17 PM |
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You are literally lying. From your telegram comments last day it shows that literally he has exited the project and you DON'T KNOW ANYTHING about Robin, the founder and main guy behind this project. This is due the fact, you are hired to keep the lie to get rolling day after day. These are your comments about the disappeared of Robin from the project. It shows clearly that you don't know where Robin is and what he is doing. Definitely he is not doing any "research" as you are saying. Why did you post a video that is 11 months old as a proof of Robin participation in the project? It doesn't make any sense. The only sense you make, is that there is no involvement of Robin in this project for 10-11 months. Why would you lie? Simple. The founder exited the project, the project will become bankrupt next year with all the ICO money, and you Richy are hired to keep the community afloat a few more months. Simple facts: - Robin is still part of the project. - Robin has been focusing only on research for the last 6 months. Other members of the team met with him recently to analyze his research approach. - Somebody in Nimiq Telegram asked why he is not part of meetups. I shared a video of THE FIRST meetup and explained that he also didn't participate in this meetup even though he was in the next room coding. - There are 3 founders, a Team of developers and an entire community behind Nimiq. - This is all true. You can decide not to believe it, that's your own right. But it is the truth.
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Definitely nobody will continue this project after it burns out all the money worth of 12 million dollars. All the ICO and all coins will go to dust.
You can only speak about you and not about everyone. I am here for the project and from what I can see in the Discord, there are quiet some others that do the same. Cryptocurrency projects can work without any funding - in fact Bitcoin development worked without funding for years.
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December 29, 2018, 11:46:32 PM |
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Definitely nobody will continue this project after it burns out all the money worth of 12 million dollars. All the ICO and all coins will go to dust.
You can only speak about you and not about everyone. I am here for the project and from what I can see in the Discord, there are quiet some others that do the same. Cryptocurrency projects can work without any funding - in fact Bitcoin development worked without funding for years. I love when there are many communities remain positive and supporting a project although it also there are a lot of people are ignoring it and assume that all will not run. We just have to give the dev time to work carefully to avoid any error occurs.
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December 29, 2018, 11:55:32 PM |
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Definitely nobody will continue this project after it burns out all the money worth of 12 million dollars. All the ICO and all coins will go to dust.
You can only speak about you and not about everyone. I am here for the project and from what I can see in the Discord, there are quiet some others that do the same. Cryptocurrency projects can work without any funding - in fact Bitcoin development worked without funding for years. Get real! Don't dream what you want to dream. The community did not do a god damn thing about the code. The protocol was development using 3 million dollars in funds by them. They did so well that Robin (main guy and developer as well) has left the project. They published in their report that they spend over 250,000 USD every month investing in coding, marketing and communities. The money they invest is the reason why there is some noise in the community. Otherwise nobody gives a cent about this project. Look at the github https://i.imgur.com/jJgmjpP.png Except the team who was well paid with millions and millions of dollars (last year they spent 2-3 million dollars to write code), nobody else contributed in a significant way.
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December 30, 2018, 12:45:20 AM |
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Definitely nobody will continue this project after it burns out all the money worth of 12 million dollars. All the ICO and all coins will go to dust.
You can only speak about you and not about everyone. I am here for the project and from what I can see in the Discord, there are quiet some others that do the same. Cryptocurrency projects can work without any funding - in fact Bitcoin development worked without funding for years. Get real! Don't dream what you want to dream. The community did not do a god damn thing about the code. The protocol was development using 3 million dollars in funds by them. They did so well that Robin (main guy and developer as well) has left the project. They published in their report that they spend over 250,000 USD every month investing in coding, marketing and communities. The money they invest is the reason why there is some noise in the community. Otherwise nobody gives a cent about this project. Look at the github ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjJgmjpP.png&t=665&c=waBWFOkZAc3nwQ) Except the team who was well paid with millions and millions of dollars (last year they spent 2-3 million dollars to write code), nobody else contributed in a significant way. I think we need to get the facts right again. 1- Nimiq-core The public repo for the Javascript Node: https://github.com/nimiq-network/core/graphs/contributors32 contributors, 10 from the team and the rest from the community. Seven open PR at the time of writing. Three of them from community members. About Robin being the "main guy and developer", at least 3 community members have contributed as much as him. Not saying his contributions are not important, but your statement is not quite valid. 2- Nimiq core-rs Rust implementation of the Nimiq Node. Released this month and already has one open PR from a community member. 3- Nimiq Apps https://nimiq.com/en/#appsNine Apps made by the Nimiq Team, 16 built by community developers. I think your overall assessment of the community and the development of Nimiq shows a general lack of knowledge of open source project and software development. If you have questions we are happy to answer them but so far you have been sharing nothing but factually wrong arguments.
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The project is literally dead, and it will become bankrupt next year. You are saying that the code is being developed and a lot of new commits are coming. Robin is doing a neat secret research that nobody knows about, not even you. These are just lies This is a screenshot from github https://github.com/nimiq-network The community is not doing almost anything, and after the nimiq ico will get bankrupt nobody will ever continue the project, and the expensive nimiq seed servers that cost about 10,000 dollars per month, will be closed and the network will shut down for ever. https://i.imgur.com/EIWr4Et.pngLook at the screenshot and you can see that all repositories are almost dead from this project. No "community" commits
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEIWr4Et.png&t=665&c=C-ONbZdcB02mNw) Look at the screenshot and you can see that all repositories are almost dead from this project. No "community" commits I guess you "just forgot" (you wouldn't do that deliberately, because then you would be the liar, right?) to take a screenshot of the https://github.com/nimiq GitHub organization that contains all the new code...
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