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September 04, 2017, 11:13:40 AM
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https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/904638606857330688

Chinese bank say ICO's are illegal. China exchange stop something altcoin (erc20 token) trading. The news is advantageous to xel.


https://bter.com/  click the cny markets can see it.

In the eyes of governments would the donation phase for XEL be seen as an ICO or something different?

It's not fake FUD.  It is an issue I have raised before.  We should be conscious of it rather than dismissing it.

Well, we could decide to rename that thing - maybe just XEL? Or we could write it with a "k" at the end? We could also try to find out if this would be necessary first. It's up to you @community.

ElastiK sounds very good.

I think ElastiK sounds good also, but I do not think there is an immediate need to change it just yet.
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September 04, 2017, 11:46:44 AM
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https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/904638606857330688

Chinese bank say ICO's are illegal. China exchange stop something altcoin (erc20 token) trading. The news is advantageous to xel.


https://bter.com/  click the cny markets can see it.

In the eyes of governments would the donation phase for XEL be seen as an ICO or something different?


Officials are crazy enough to interpret anything they want in their favor, but I'd not say that the donation is ICO.
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September 04, 2017, 11:51:13 AM
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https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/904638606857330688

Chinese bank say ICO's are illegal. China exchange stop something altcoin (erc20 token) trading. The news is advantageous to xel.


https://bter.com/  click the cny markets can see it.

In the eyes of governments would the donation phase for XEL be seen as an ICO or something different?


Officials are crazy enough to interpret anything they want in their favor, but I'd not say that the donation is ICO.

but in the end it doesn´t matter at all for elastic

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September 04, 2017, 12:22:11 PM
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https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/904638606857330688

Chinese bank say ICO's are illegal. China exchange stop something altcoin (erc20 token) trading. The news is advantageous to xel.


https://bter.com/  click the cny markets can see it.

In the eyes of governments would the donation phase for XEL be seen as an ICO or something different?


Officials are crazy enough to interpret anything they want in their favor, but I'd not say that the donation is ICO.

but in the end it doesn´t matter at all for elastic

In the long run it won't matter at all, but for now the markets will panic like it always does in these situations. I am hoping to pick up more at a discount so this will probably benefit me, couple months everything will calm down.
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September 04, 2017, 03:36:47 PM
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It's not fake FUD.  It is an issue I have raised before.  We should be conscious of it rather than dismissing it.

Well, we could decide to rename that thing - maybe just XEL? Or we could write it with a "k" at the end? We could also try to find out if this would be necessary first. It's up to you @community.
I do not think it is necessary, at least now. If/when elastic team meet problems due to trademark then community and team could consider rebranding. IMO

I also think it's not needed at this point. There're many entities in the world that share the same names, especially if the name is common word.
The differences then come from logos, slogans, and other stuff rather than the name itself.
Glad to know I'm not the only one who thinks so.
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September 04, 2017, 07:53:59 PM
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It's not fake FUD.  It is an issue I have raised before.  We should be conscious of it rather than dismissing it.

Well, we could decide to rename that thing - maybe just XEL? Or we could write it with a "k" at the end? We could also try to find out if this would be necessary first. It's up to you @community.

Yes that would be one way to get round it.  In fact I may be wrong but I think Elastic itself may be considered too generic to be copyrighted anyway.  So Elastik (assuming nobody else has used it) would be better.

Elastik.com is available for purchase (https://uniregistry.com/market/domain/elastik.com). Of course, it's probably best to search trademarks databases (US / Europe, etc) and talk to a trademark specialist before doing anything like this. It might be cheaper to just research and create a new name that becomes valuable and unique to the project. There are naming consultants that help startups create unique names with domains and trademarks cleared.

It's always an uphill battle to use a common word as a brand name.
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September 05, 2017, 06:26:11 AM
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It's not fake FUD.  It is an issue I have raised before.  We should be conscious of it rather than dismissing it.

Well, we could decide to rename that thing - maybe just XEL? Or we could write it with a "k" at the end? We could also try to find out if this would be necessary first. It's up to you @community.

Yes that would be one way to get round it.  In fact I may be wrong but I think Elastic itself may be considered too generic to be copyrighted anyway.  So Elastik (assuming nobody else has used it) would be better.

Elastik.com is available for purchase (https://uniregistry.com/market/domain/elastik.com). Of course, it's probably best to search trademarks databases (US / Europe, etc) and talk to a trademark specialist before doing anything like this. It might be cheaper to just research and create a new name that becomes valuable and unique to the project. There are naming consultants that help startups create unique names with domains and trademarks cleared.

It's always an uphill battle to use a common word as a brand name.

We changed logo several weeks ago, and now the name? I don't see the reason.
Perhaps later, if it's really going to become an issue but now it's just not needed.
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September 05, 2017, 01:55:03 PM
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Hello guys.

I am new in XEL.

Someone can help me to introduce myself to this crypto?
What forging means? What is the advantage to forge?

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September 06, 2017, 08:09:52 AM
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Hello guys.

I am new in XEL.

Someone can help me to introduce myself to this crypto?
What forging means? What is the advantage to forge?

XEL is NXT clone.
You can find more information on forging here https://nxtwiki.org/wiki/Forging
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September 06, 2017, 11:40:36 AM
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It's not fake FUD.  It is an issue I have raised before.  We should be conscious of it rather than dismissing it.

Well, we could decide to rename that thing - maybe just XEL? Or we could write it with a "k" at the end? We could also try to find out if this would be necessary first. It's up to you @community.

Yes that would be one way to get round it.  In fact I may be wrong but I think Elastic itself may be considered too generic to be copyrighted anyway.  So Elastik (assuming nobody else has used it) would be better.

Elastik.com is available for purchase (https://uniregistry.com/market/domain/elastik.com). Of course, it's probably best to search trademarks databases (US / Europe, etc) and talk to a trademark specialist before doing anything like this. It might be cheaper to just research and create a new name that becomes valuable and unique to the project. There are naming consultants that help startups create unique names with domains and trademarks cleared.

It's always an uphill battle to use a common word as a brand name.

We changed logo several weeks ago, and now the name? I don't see the reason.
Perhaps later, if it's really going to become an issue but now it's just not needed.

 Yay, its not a big deal and the name spelling does not mean that much. "Tech first, marketing later" as the wise people say)   


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September 06, 2017, 12:05:30 PM
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How's everything going? Think i've missed out on the recent news but it seems that there haven't been any since bittrex listing.
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How's everything going? Think i've missed out on the recent news but it seems that there haven't been any since bittrex listing.

Devs are still working on Elastic. You can get more info on their Slack Channel. Expect a moderate progression not a pump and dump and hold steady.   Wink

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September 06, 2017, 01:09:43 PM
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Maybe now his wallet is still on testnet, mainnet and live may be on the 17th with a lite wallet. then now can redeem your xel. You do it well and there is no obstacle at all. Smiley

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September 06, 2017, 02:18:35 PM
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How many coins are needed for a XEL masternode? is it 100k?
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September 06, 2017, 02:58:30 PM
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ElastiK rocks!!
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How many coins are needed for a XEL masternode? is it 100k?

We moved away from the supernode approach a couple months ago.  The community expressed concerns about it being to centralized of an approach.  In the current design being worked on, any node can opt in to validate Elastic jobs (or opt out such as in the case of exchanges).
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September 06, 2017, 03:14:04 PM
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ElastiK rocks!!
My opinion, if rebranding issue will arise with the name, it is better to stick with XEL.
Look at TenX and their token named PAY, and other projects. It is ridiculous, and ppl are tend to confuse them and think they are two different things...

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September 07, 2017, 03:31:18 AM
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I am an investor in the original xel project with my btc address. Can i redem my XEL or not? Thanks

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September 07, 2017, 05:21:09 AM
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Rebrand to Xel imo

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September 07, 2017, 08:54:29 AM
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I bought some XEL coins via heatwallet a while ago, but as you can't trade with them meanwhile on the heat platform, I would like to transfer them for being more flexible, but unfortunately I don't know how to get the xel's away from heatwallet.

Via slack a guy named oscurito23 messaged me following:

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I saw you
TRansfer asset
recipient fim2@heatwallet.com
asset XEL
amount amount
Message YOUR WALLET
fim2 is the automatic procesor for XEL of heat
not my acount
ty for trust in my
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He mentioned that I will get a certain amount of heat's for the xel's after sending to the recipient.

Questions:
1) How to get sure that "recipient fim2@heatwallet.com" is not a fake? Sounds like being the wallet from anyone else..
2) Isn't it possible sending xel coins from heatwallet to f.e. bittrex? I don't want to sell coins yet as i would have to pay taxes

Could not find any help so thanks for all useful answers.

You are a bit boring, we have already explained in the slack, those are the official instructions to withdraw from heat.

Sorry for being a pain, I could not really believe it at first, as it’s a strange way I think so, looks very improvised that process.
Moreover the sell/ change force from xel to heat is a big disadvantage, as I have to pay taxes when I switch the coins now. After 1 year it would be free of taxes.

However, thank you very much for your help! 
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