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October 30, 2017, 12:52:30 PM
Last edit: October 30, 2017, 01:49:27 PM by NutMasterTardd
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There is a discussion currently ongoing in Slack about setting up an Elastic foundation/core group. As many people currently involved with XEL agree that this marketing strategy might be a good idea after the compute engine is finished and not now - Not to market something that isn't quite done yet. This is currently in talks and nothing has been fully decided yet though.


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October 30, 2017, 01:02:50 PM
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things looking good for XEL, price going up nicely, good new marketing sign-on, i see twitter hype building.

this coin will pop huge in 2018!  Cool
And when it will be necessary to buy this coin?
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October 30, 2017, 01:19:15 PM
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things looking good for XEL, price going up nicely, good new marketing sign-on, i see twitter hype building.

this coin will pop huge in 2018!  Cool
And when it will be necessary to buy this coin?

well now to be honest!  the whole alt market is a buy right now since everything has dumped since the spring/summer pump action from whales, XEL is a coin that still never hit it's highest potential but it should during 2018, BUT this WILL take awhile, longer than some other alts you can probably buy and get returns quicker on (just FYI).

zoomout to the 1 day chart and see...the ideal buy time was 3k-6k sats which you just missed...it's already jumped a lil bit to 7k plus which is still a decent price.  it could easily dump back down again to say 4k range but who knows.  it could make a run to 10k again just as easy.  i do not think we'll see 25k until well into 2018 though.

https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-XEL

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October 30, 2017, 02:02:48 PM
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Well, i dont understand why the senior devs dont want to promote, but I see the passion in their words. If they are not really interested in the project and do not put a soul in it, they would just accept the help of marketing company and feel happy to get more money. The fact they dont want that means that their main aim is to make a really good project. Nice.

So far I prefer a team that work more on the development than working on the marketing.
Marketing just slowing down the process. We have time to do it later, or as for now, asking it to someone else.

yeah, HyperLoop is right, processes are not slowed in such a situation. But the fact that the main developers do not any pay attention to marketing is THAT cool Smiley

IMO it is better that EK and Coralreefer are more focused on development of Elastic and working towards a finished product than constantly talking about the price or returns and solely focused on pure hype, like so many other devs do. They don't care about money or the price, they care about the progress of XEL and that is why it will do so well in the future. Marketing is always good but the best marketing is a finished product, which is what they are purely focused on.


Absolutely agree Smiley I didnt put a sarcasm in my words about coolness. It is really nice.
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October 30, 2017, 03:44:11 PM
Last edit: October 30, 2017, 04:00:17 PM by by rallier
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I typed from slack channel, I am pasting here:

Do we agree marketing is right, we need it at anytime?

This data from elastic.pw visitor analytic. In normally, we have a daily 200 visitor.
We loss visitors day by day. But yesterday is start to increase.
Also twitter follower's increased, reddit follower increased. Newsletter followers increased.
Everyone to be sure, I believe just we need to reach more people with a guidance / a helps. That wasn't a plan about pump dump.
Yes right, they fucked up all community eyes and my eyes.
They said they are professional and they wanted to more content / mottos about XEL for sharing social media keep up to date.
They gave a example Okcash works. I said okcash pump/dump we dont want to say pump/dump scheme.
They said to me, Okcash price drop While btc was big rising.
I agree, I said my first message, If you have a doubt about my works, Come and manage I didn't keep secret that things, anybody need to give a hand for this.
One more example, The company reviewed our information github/website etc.
They recommended to me website need re-design, whitepaper need to re-design. I talked with @distro  he is working on new website.
I contacted with @clivemy I said to him we need revise whitepaper, he worked before on our whitepaper, he said last night, He can't continue and give information to @techwriterjoe he will be   work on about whitepaper
I don't waste my time, I tried to fix When devs focused to development, We could fix something.
We don't have a FAQ!!!
Community members working on it, I am following it for when it's done I will finish on website.
Here is a draft about FAQ: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RaK7Kz3iG9a3F7jC35iMDbOwdffoKcYtFtGb2bhL97o/edit?usp=sharing
That's my understand marketing. Not pump/dump.

I accept that work like marketing things..
If someone judge me about that works, I feel free, Someone talked about my behind like byrallier is nothing etc. I don't care. A lot of people know me and trust me. I don't never bet to pump/dump scheme, It is unreliable for everyone.
I pissed of them for price image on twitter. They removed from twitter, I told to our care about that to them.

Who is trusted guy from our community, I will give domains / newsletter etc to him for marketing today or later. That accounts is not mine. Just I manage for community, feel free.
If someone has an issue with me, PM me pls. I don't want to post on here about that things.


some more words: 2 days ago, Some people discussing about "daily volume" at this topic. if the volume is low, A lot of people scaring from Bittrex removal policy. Did you see yesterday XEL volumes ? It reached 2000BTC. XEL is not a pump/dump coin. But it deserve more people attentions. That is possible with development + marketing. I believe both(dev+marketing) of important XEL.
Thanks for read all this crap.

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October 30, 2017, 04:55:07 PM
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Marketing group IS active.

XEL dev team, is not directly affiliated with Marketing group.

These things are both true.  Decentralized projects require community to rally, even when Dev makes stupid messages  Grin
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October 30, 2017, 05:01:17 PM
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If you keep up what you are doing now, you might kill the project.

A marketing company like this will not work with you ever again. Maybe you can agree to cooperate independently, since marketing doesn't hurt anyone. And the marketing company is offering useful services.

Right now your community needs your response. You are hurting us in the first place.
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October 30, 2017, 05:21:29 PM
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Is the codebase of XEL in part based on NXT? It would be nice to integrate XEL into Internet of Coins.
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October 30, 2017, 05:21:31 PM
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Just because the partnership with Golden Smophy isn't happening now doesn't mean anything. The project will grow on its own when further updates happen, If people want to dump because the marketing isn't happening then go ahead, it won't change development or success of Elastic in the long run. The best marketing is a finished product, and it will happen in time! Talking about the project dying because of this is way too dramatic.. but hopefully these pumps can be avoided in future and XEL will grow with real value.

https://twitter.com/elastic_coin

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October 30, 2017, 05:28:30 PM
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Fully agree with you there. Real development of a project is much better for long term value development, than hyping or marketing.
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October 30, 2017, 05:34:21 PM
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Just because the partnership with Golden Smophy isn't happening now doesn't mean anything. The project will grow on its own when further updates happen, If people want to dump because the marketing isn't happening then go ahead, it won't change development or success of Elastic in the long run. The best marketing is a finished product, and it will happen in time! Talking about the project dying because of this is way too dramatic..

https://twitter.com/elastic_coin

Disagree : "The best marketing is a finished product, and it will happen in time!"

Agree:   "Talking about the project dying because of this is way too dramatic.."

The best marketing IS marketing. I liked this model.  1.) Create or identify a need.  2.) Inform on how to fill that need  3.) Provide positives of use 4.) Inform what happens when you don't act soon 5.) call to action.  Regardless, its already having positive effect.

I don't see Golden Smophy saying they aren't advertising.  Anyone can do this (including you community)  Devs don't need to be affiliated for it to be successful.
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October 30, 2017, 06:24:50 PM
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Guys, you should perform such fake news-FUD pump and dump schemes at higher levels of valuation. Not in the middle of a bear season, lol.
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October 30, 2017, 07:42:29 PM
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Fully agree with you there. Real development of a project is much better for long term value development, than hyping or marketing.

When I met with the project Xel he was worth 15000, then it started to cost 13500 and I bought and hold. Then I watched as the price falls and believed in the team and the project. Price dropped to 4500. When there was an announcement about marketing I bought for 8000 more. I believed that now this project gets more people began to advertise to friends. Marketing it correctly, but it is different. Without marketing, very bad.I sold all the coins at 6200 and lost a lot. You didn't even apologize on Twitter for it. This is a very terrible case in which you have not even tried to find good words to investors and even to apologize. You spat in our faces.
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October 30, 2017, 07:46:32 PM
Last edit: October 30, 2017, 08:10:20 PM by NutMasterTardd
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Fully agree with you there. Real development of a project is much better for long term value development, than hyping or marketing.

When I met with the project Xel he was worth 15000, then it started to cost 13500 and I bought and hold. Then I watched as the price falls and believed in the team and the project. Price dropped to 4500. When there was an announcement about marketing I bought for 8000 more. I believed that now this project gets more people began to advertise to friends. Marketing it correctly, but it is different. Without marketing, very bad.I sold all the coins at 6200 and lost a lot. You didn't even apologize on Twitter for it. This is a very terrible case in which you had not even tried odabrati kind words to investors and even to apologize. You spat in our faces.

Let me just check that this is correct; you decide to buy in at 15k, then decide to hold on the downtrend and then purchased more at 8k after a 200% increase.. and both trades were entirely your decision then you decide to sell at a loss, this means that the devs spat in your face? I am sorry you have lost money, but buying into any cryptocurrency is a huge risk, and you should only gamble with what you can afford to lose.

I am just an XEL supporter btw.

GEO, RLC & QRL.
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October 30, 2017, 07:51:11 PM
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There are a lot of disgruntled investors. Probably, many of you watched the picture, when the coin enters the market, then a dizzying fall occurs, then, in a half-year, a stir may begin. Maybe this is it? It's the same market. You bought for example a smartphone, and after a month another sharply becomes cheaper. So it is here. If the goods become useless to nobody, then it falls sharply in value.

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October 30, 2017, 08:01:43 PM
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There are a lot of disgruntled investors. Probably, many of you watched the picture, when the coin enters the market, then a dizzying fall occurs, then, in a half-year, a stir may begin. Maybe this is it? It's the same market. You bought for example a smartphone, and after a month another sharply becomes cheaper. So it is here. If the goods become useless to nobody, then it falls sharply in value.

No. You are not right. I have my own business and I was in different situations. People who do not think that you write and think only of their personal authority, I do not participate in such business. These 3 tweets you can write in other words, just needed to think about us and at least apologize for what happened. You can't trust money. Here are the facts - and it is undermining confidence, I don't care about the money. I regret the time spent on the analysis of Xel, advertising friends, and this time I will not return. The money I will try to earn a more responsible team. Sorry for my English.
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October 30, 2017, 08:13:42 PM
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Fully agree with you there. Real development of a project is much better for long term value development, than hyping or marketing.

When I met with the project Xel he was worth 15000, then it started to cost 13500 and I bought and hold. Then I watched as the price falls and believed in the team and the project. Price dropped to 4500. When there was an announcement about marketing I bought for 8000 more. I believed that now this project gets more people began to advertise to friends. Marketing it correctly, but it is different. Without marketing, very bad.I sold all the coins at 6200 and lost a lot. You didn't even apologize on Twitter for it. This is a very terrible case in which you had not even tried odabrati kind words to investors and even to apologize. You spat in our faces.

Let me just check that this is correct; you decide to buy in at 15k, then decide to hold on the downtrend and then purchased more at 8k after a 200% increase.. and both trades were entirely your decision then you decide to sell at a loss, this means that the devs spat in your face?

I am just an XEL supporter btw.

There are actions and there are consequences. Going to say 100 times. The official Twitter account is a real post. Its aftermath saw everything. All seen the consequences the other 3 posts. Who is to blame? Who does not know how to speak and thinks only of himself. It's a business. You can't make mistakes like this. And people who make excuses, and no apology cannot be trusted with money!!!
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October 30, 2017, 08:25:44 PM
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Its aftermath saw everything.
didnt like 80% of the price increase happen before the post?
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October 30, 2017, 08:55:32 PM
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Its aftermath saw everything.
didnt like 80% of the price increase happen before the post?

I know this project well and I know what kind of price is he after a marketing. I don't have time to buy at 4500, and bought for 8000. But it doesn't matter. Tomorrow it will be again 4000. It is like you sold the painting, they took the money for it and then said that she's a fake. Here is not the fault of the exchange, the consequences of actions and words, and no one apologizes !! In business, this is unacceptable. Now I'm not an investor in this coin, and will short-term speculator. In this respect it will continually give good waves where you can earn and the price strongly will not rise as there is no trust from new investors.


That's what marketers, what would be in this situation to find words which won't cause costs to investors. And it's not difficult, it is very easy. Very very very easy to find the right words.

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October 30, 2017, 09:00:43 PM
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So do i understand it right someone has access to the twitter account and prepared a fakenews as well as a pump on the exchange before the news ?

I mean this is not the projects fault, but how can you give someone like this access to the account?
It will definitely give a bad light on this and lot of investors who bought the news are obviously pissed now.

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