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August 07, 2013, 12:28:41 PM
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Yep, just waiting any info on chips here. Smiley
TH has done it's job so far.., slowly and with a lack of communication to us, but nonetheless at this point they are at Avalon's mercy just as we are.

Except the little tiny thing of breaking Federal Trade Commissions regulations, IF they are refusing refunds before a product has shipped.

Here come the lawyers.

Listen, start your refund process with Paypal or your Credit card and please stop whining here.

Stop being an advocate for everyone else and quietly take care of your own business.

The sooner you get a refund the faster I can buy up your stuff.

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August 07, 2013, 12:29:26 PM
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Yep, just waiting any info on chips here. Smiley
TH has done it's job so far.., slowly and with a lack of communication to us, but nonetheless at this point they are at Avalon's mercy just as we are.

Except the little tiny thing of breaking Federal Trade Commissions regulations, IF they are refusing refunds before a product has shipped.

Well, I wasn't talking about that since I am not looking to get a refund. I knew what I was heading into before I gave them the $.
But yeah I agree with you and at the same time see their point that they needed investment $ from these orders to finance all the stuff required.
Overall it's a bit of a mess.
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August 07, 2013, 12:32:01 PM
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Yep, just waiting any info on chips here. Smiley
TH has done it's job so far.., slowly and with a lack of communication to us, but nonetheless at this point they are at Avalon's mercy just as we are.

Except the little tiny thing of breaking Federal Trade Commissions regulations, IF they are refusing refunds before a product has shipped.
Ya,,, Have fun and good luck with that one Smiley

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August 07, 2013, 12:36:46 PM
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Yep, just waiting any info on chips here. Smiley
TH has done it's job so far.., slowly and with a lack of communication to us, but nonetheless at this point they are at Avalon's mercy just as we are.

Except the little tiny thing of breaking Federal Trade Commissions regulations, IF they are refusing refunds before a product has shipped.

Here come the lawyers.

Listen, start your refund process with Paypal or your Credit card and please stop whining here.

Stop being an advocate for everyone else and quietly take care of your own business.

The sooner you get a refund the faster I can buy up your stuff.



1) IANAL
2) I don't need to start any refund process with anyone
3) I am no being an advocate for everyone I am stating the facts as I see them, my own business is quietly taken care of, thanks ever so much for the lovely advice!  If you don't like what I say there is a neato little ignore button feel free to use it on me!!
4) see #1 no need for a refund here, btw if you want everyone refunded why not ask the company to abide by the law and issue a prompt full refund then you will get your wish and can buy up as many as you like.
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August 07, 2013, 12:41:11 PM
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Hey guys, is there a list somewhere of all Avalon orders?
Just trying to see how many are before us, etc....for estimating purposes. Smiley

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August 07, 2013, 12:41:43 PM
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These people probably wouldnt be whining or bitching about it for 40+ pages if TH would actually conduct business in an ethical manner and give people a prompt refund.
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August 07, 2013, 12:58:24 PM
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I think Terrahash, out of courtesy and appreciation to its first batch customers (us guys)... should consider offering us a Second Pre-order opportunity prior to reopening to the public,,,and maybe offer all of us who have hung tight with them a chance to purchase up to 2-k64's or 8-k16's  (128 chips) for example" at a respectable discount ( even 5-10% Smiley ), But only after the first batch has shipped and been received. Thus giving us a chance to help make up for lost time if any, or just a way to say thank you! If they ship us, then they know we are good paying customers, and it would be easy to to do for Terrahash as they would have the production machine rolling, and they would know, by limiting the amounts of G/Hash we can reorder at max, then there would be no big surprise for them in inventory counts. I think something like this could be a WIN WIN for us as well as Terrahash!...Think about it please Terrahash..... Might would be a good contolled stratigic order move that would serve your budget well and smoothly....Even if only for a limited 12 hour hour order window for us,,,so long as we get an email first! Ok, just thinking outside the box ,,,maybe wishfull thinking but deserves some consideration I would think Smiley
EDIT: Better Idea Terrahash...How about you take all cancelled orders from the 1st preorder, Tally up the chips involved, divide by the number of actual Processed orders and then offer that in a a 2nd preorder for us. Example: Cancelled chips = 5,000 divide by 16 (k16's) = 312/k16 boards divided by actual individual (per person) orders in que say 200 and we all get another crack at 1-2 additional k16s EACH (or whatever in reallity) at regular price Smiley Wheres Cryptoin he could could about it give us an exact amount. But you get the idea. So how about TH? It would make your oldest customers happy again! and use up all those spare chips nicely (when they ever get here lol) Would be a great publicity move,,, We could even contact Coindesk.com Smiley

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August 07, 2013, 01:05:37 PM
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Yep, just waiting any info on chips here. Smiley
TH has done it's job so far.., slowly and with a lack of communication to us, but nonetheless at this point they are at Avalon's mercy just as we are.

Except the little tiny thing of breaking Federal Trade Commissions regulations, IF they are refusing refunds before a product has shipped.

Here come the lawyers.

Listen, start your refund process with Paypal or your Credit card and please stop whining here.

Stop being an advocate for everyone else and quietly take care of your own business.

The sooner you get a refund the faster I can buy up your stuff.




1) IANAL
2) I don't need to start any refund process with anyone
3) I am no being an advocate for everyone I am stating the facts as I see them, my own business is quietly taken care of, thanks ever so much for the lovely advice!  If you don't like what I say there is a neato little ignore button feel free to use it on me!!
4) see #1 no need for a refund here, btw if you want everyone refunded why not ask the company to abide by the law and issue a prompt full refund then you will get your wish and can buy up as many as you like.
Holy Cow,,,sensitive... Smiley

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August 07, 2013, 01:07:36 PM
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Except the little tiny thing of breaking Federal Trade Commissions regulations, IF they are refusing refunds before a product has shipped.

I read the FTC regulations ...They are not in violation of anything.... Yet.

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August 07, 2013, 02:25:02 PM
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I think Terrahash, out of courtesy and appreciation to its first batch customers (us guys)... should consider offering us a Second Pre-order opportunity prior to reopening to the public,,,and maybe offer all of us who have hung tight with them a chance to purchase up to 2-k64's or 8-k16's  (128 chips) for example" at a respectable discount ( even 5-10% Smiley ), But only after the first batch has shipped and been received. Thus giving us a chance to help make up for lost time if any, or just a way to say thank you! If they ship us, then they know we are good paying customers, and it would be easy to to do for Terrahash as they would have the production machine rolling, and they would know, by limiting the amounts of G/Hash we can reorder at max, then there would be no big surprise for them in inventory counts. I think something like this could be a WIN WIN for us as well as Terrahash!...Think about it please Terrahash..... Might would be a good contolled stratigic order move that would serve your budget well and smoothly....Even if only for a limited 12 hour hour order window for us,,,so long as we get an email first! Ok, just thinking outside the box ,,,maybe wishfull thinking but deserves some consideration I would think Smiley
EDIT: Better Idea Terrahash...How about you take all cancelled orders from the 1st preorder, Tally up the chips involved, divide by the number of actual Processed orders and then offer that in a a 2nd preorder for us. Example: Cancelled chips = 5,000 divide by 16 (k16's) = 312/k16 boards divided by actual individual (per person) orders in que say 200 and we all get another crack at 1-2 additional k16s EACH (or whatever in reallity) at regular price Smiley Wheres Cryptoin he could could about it give us an exact amount. But you get the idea. So how about TH? It would make your oldest customers happy again! and use up all those spare chips nicely (when they ever get here lol) Would be a great publicity move,,, We could even contact Coindesk.com Smiley
I f@ckin love this guy!! Tongue
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August 07, 2013, 04:12:04 PM
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Click Refresh.
No chip news.
Grrr...
wait 5min
Click Refresh.
Ugh...no chips. Grrrrr
Go get coffee..
wait 10 min...
click refresh .. hmmm
Still no news of Chips..
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Click refresh
difficulty going up
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So, hows every one else's day going? lmao
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August 07, 2013, 04:16:22 PM
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About the same....
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August 07, 2013, 04:17:38 PM
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Click Refresh.
No chip news.
Grrr...
wait 5min
Click Refresh.
Ugh...no chips. Grrrrr
Go get coffee..
wait 10 min...
click refresh .. hmmm
Still no news of Chips..
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hahaha, so true.  Add in a few steps for running ROI calculations using 3 different calculators and a custom google spreadsheet and increasing sinking feeling that it will be better to sell the box on Ebay then mine with it.

It's really beginning to feel like Avalon is f*cking people over on these chip orders.  
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August 07, 2013, 04:22:26 PM
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So what, we got like 7 business days for the chips to be received if we want to see anything by the end of the month...
Color me shocked if that actually comes true. lol
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August 07, 2013, 04:35:56 PM
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So what, we got like 7 business days for the chips to be received if we want to see anything by the end of the month...
Color me shocked if that actually comes true. lol

Highly doubtful. We still got zefirs 6 batches of chips and steamboats batch before terrahash.

Id love to be proven wrong but I think were all screwed

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August 07, 2013, 04:41:04 PM
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So what, we got like 7 business days for the chips to be received if we want to see anything by the end of the month...
Color me shocked if that actually comes true. lol

Highly doubtful. We still got zefirs 6 batches of chips and steamboats batch before terrahash.

Id love to be proven wrong but I think were all screwed

Danny

That is not correct - Terrahash bought two early May chip batches of 10k each.  If things ship in order (or any more chips are shipped at all), then those chips should arrive before zefirs batch 2.
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August 07, 2013, 04:45:50 PM
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So what, we got like 7 business days for the chips to be received if we want to see anything by the end of the month...
Color me shocked if that actually comes true. lol

Highly doubtful. We still got zefirs 6 batches of chips and steamboats batch before terrahash.

Id love to be proven wrong but I think were all screwed

Danny

That is not correct - Terrahash bought two early May chip batches of 10k each.  If things ship in order (or any more chips are shipped at all), then those chips should arrive before zefirs batch 2.

From zefir's thread.
#10149    April 30, 2013    Chips ordered    ฿1,564.20 for 2 items
#10137    April 28, 2013    Chips ordered    ฿782.10 for 1 item
#10105    April 24, 2013    Chips ordered    ฿782.10 for 1 item
#10037    April 20, 2013    Chips ordered    ฿782.10 for 1 item
#9921    April 20, 2013    Chips ordered    ฿782.10 for 1 item
#9725    April 16, 2013    Chips ordered    ฿782.10 for 1 item
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August 07, 2013, 04:48:30 PM
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My bad.  For some reason I thought that zephir's buys were in May.
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August 07, 2013, 04:52:03 PM
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My bad.  For some reason I had the idea that Zephirs buys were in May.

All good, I was spending my day at work researching all the buys to see our position.
and my final thoughts on this thing is:
WE ARE DEFINITELY SCREWED
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They should definitely add it.
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August 07, 2013, 05:11:58 PM
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So what, we got like 7 business days for the chips to be received if we want to see anything by the end of the month...
Color me shocked if that actually comes true. lol

Highly doubtful. We still got zefirs 6 batches of chips and steamboats batch before terrahash.

Id love to be proven wrong but I think were all screwed

Danny

That is not correct - Terrahash bought two early May chip batches of 10k each.  If things ship in order (or any more chips are shipped at all), then those chips should arrive before zefirs batch 2.

From zefir's thread.
#10149    April 30, 2013    Chips ordered    ฿1,564.20 for 2 items
#10137    April 28, 2013    Chips ordered    ฿782.10 for 1 item
#10105    April 24, 2013    Chips ordered    ฿782.10 for 1 item
#10037    April 20, 2013    Chips ordered    ฿782.10 for 1 item
#9921    April 20, 2013    Chips ordered    ฿782.10 for 1 item
#9725    April 16, 2013    Chips ordered    ฿782.10 for 1 item
TH also bought out 20k extra chips, a while back from somebodys early order on top of what they ordered.... maybe they will see those sooner???

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