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Author Topic: Any word on amd vega hash rates?  (Read 202666 times)
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October 23, 2017, 11:53:26 AM
Last edit: October 23, 2017, 04:05:10 PM by rednoW
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Guys, if you have good memory cooling cards there are some good news.
Original idea from overclock.net's gupsterg and Nuke33 and me.
We found a way to overclock HBM2 memory further.
All is done via softpowerplay.
Seems it can oc stable to 1150-1170 mhz.
eth speed goes to 46.2+mhs (old 44.2).
xmr goes to 21502050+h/s (old 1990).
It is Vega64 LC 1408/1150@905mV
No other tweaks except memory speed boost applied.
Consumption increase is negligible.



Disclaimer! This is only tested for few hours. No responsibility if you'll burn you cards.
Disclaimer 2! With mem speed higher then 1150mhz seems to produce fake hashrate. Meaning that memory errors lead to less found shares. Pity we have no tools to track HBM memory errors as we have with polaris cards.
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October 23, 2017, 12:02:09 PM
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What miner did use?
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October 23, 2017, 01:53:03 PM
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Damn, thats good hashrate.  I wouldnt do it to my 56 though, can anyone confirm whether the hbm2 chips are the same between 56 or 64, or they took the better ones for 64...?  And for the other guy with high power consumption, if you mine monero, you dont really need to flash to 64 and do soft mods if you want acceptable hashrate (1900) and lowish power consumption (175).  if you just flash to 64 and dont do mods than thats the worst scenario, all you get is higher watts.
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October 23, 2017, 02:00:33 PM
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Guys, if you have good memory cooling cards there are some good news.
Original idea from overclock.net's gupsterg and Nuke33 and me.
We found a way to overclock HBM2 memory further.
All is done via softpowerplay.
Seems it can oc stable to 1150-1170 mhz.
eth speed goes to 46.2+mhs (old 44.2).
xmr goes to 2150+h/s (old 1990).
It is Vega64 LC 1408/1150@905mV
No other tweaks except memory speed boost applied.
Consumption increase is negligible.



Disclaimer! This is only tested for few hours. No responsibility if you'll burn you cards.

WOW that is impressive! Good work rednoW
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October 23, 2017, 02:39:04 PM
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WOW that is impressive! Good work rednoW

Be careful about fake hashrate - I added the notice to that post

"With mem speed higher then 1150mhz seems to produce fake hashrate. Meaning that memory errors lead to less found shares. Pity we have no tools to track HBM memory errors as we have with polaris cards."
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October 23, 2017, 04:03:11 PM
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WOW that is impressive! Good work rednoW

Be careful about fake hashrate - I added the notice to that post

"With mem speed higher then 1150mhz seems to produce fake hashrate. Meaning that memory errors lead to less found shares. Pity we have no tools to track HBM memory errors as we have with polaris cards."

Either way very impressive what you guys have achieved.
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October 23, 2017, 04:38:18 PM
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So what did you do to achieve 1150Mhz HBM clocks? Since it should not matter how you set the clocks, it wont work if the chip cant do those clocks. If only we could add a little more juice to memory. I have 2 64s, other can do 1100Mhz and the other 1060mhz (anymore clocks and it wont iprove hasrate and 1100 will crash).
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October 23, 2017, 05:29:52 PM
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Guys, if you have good memory cooling cards there are some good news.
Original idea from overclock.net's gupsterg and Nuke33 and me.
We found a way to overclock HBM2 memory further.
All is done via softpowerplay.
Seems it can oc stable to 1150-1170 mhz.
eth speed goes to 46.2+mhs (old 44.2).
xmr goes to 21502050+h/s (old 1990).
It is Vega64 LC 1408/1150@905mV
No other tweaks except memory speed boost applied.
Consumption increase is negligible.
http://cdn.overclock.net/2/20/900x900px-LL-205ebcd6_vega_1150mem.png
http://cdn.overclock.net/8/8f/900x900px-LL-8f73cfea_vega_1150mem_xmr.png

Disclaimer! This is only tested for few hours. No responsibility if you'll burn you cards.
Disclaimer 2! With mem speed higher then 1150mhz seems to produce fake hashrate. Meaning that memory errors lead to less found shares. Pity we have no tools to track HBM memory errors as we have with polaris cards.

Great news Rednow! Thanks for sharing! :-)
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October 23, 2017, 05:42:40 PM
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Any news on what the hash rate of upcoming Vega 20 will be?
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October 23, 2017, 05:54:44 PM
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Hi,

I have got a question...

Actually I have one with 3 VEGA 64, mining XMR 1408-1100@905. Power consumtion for the whole rig is around 520Watt.
I have a 850W PSU "evga 850 g2 supernova".

Now my question: Does it work out to add a 4th VEGA to the rig with that one 850W PSU?

Thanks and cheers

Oskar
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October 23, 2017, 07:28:48 PM
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Hi,

I have got a question...

Actually I have one with 3 VEGA 64, mining XMR 1408-1100@905. Power consumtion for the whole rig is around 520Watt.
I have a 850W PSU "evga 850 g2 supernova".

Now my question: Does it work out to add a 4th VEGA to the rig with that one 850W PSU?

Thanks and cheers

Oskar


Only if it is Platinum-rated.  Otherwise, if gold rated, 80% rule of 850 is 680.  680-520 = 130 headroom for another Vega, I wouldn't do that on mine.

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October 23, 2017, 08:02:44 PM
Last edit: October 23, 2017, 08:35:18 PM by einherjar
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Here are my results, running stable for a few hours now

https://imgur.com/a/KxdIw

4 x vega56 stock bios with softpowerplay mod running compute drivers
8gb of ddr3 ram
73gb Virtual memory (although 40-60 gb didn't make any difference)
 Power at the wall whole system is 670w
All card are runng 900mv core except 1 that needs 910, will tinker with that one again later.

Big thanks to all the people sharing information here , it's a bit help for us newbies !
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October 23, 2017, 08:19:10 PM
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Hi,

I have got a question...

Actually I have one with 3 VEGA 64, mining XMR 1408-1100@905. Power consumtion for the whole rig is around 520Watt.
I have a 850W PSU "evga 850 g2 supernova".

Now my question: Does it work out to add a 4th VEGA to the rig with that one 850W PSU?

Thanks and cheers

Oskar


Only if it is Platinum-rated.  Otherwise, if gold rated, 80% rule of 850 is 680.  680-520 = 130 headroom for another Vega, I wouldn't do that on mine.
Thanks.
I expect around 700W for the hole rig with 4 Vegas, these are just 20W too much... Sad
The efficiency of the PSU is min.92%@220V
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October 23, 2017, 08:29:04 PM
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Hi,

I have got a question...

Actually I have one with 3 VEGA 64, mining XMR 1408-1100@905. Power consumtion for the whole rig is around 520Watt.
I have a 850W PSU "evga 850 g2 supernova".

Now my question: Does it work out to add a 4th VEGA to the rig with that one 850W PSU?

Thanks and cheers

Oskar


Only if it is Platinum-rated.  Otherwise, if gold rated, 80% rule of 850 is 680.  680-520 = 130 headroom for another Vega, I wouldn't do that on mine.
Thanks.
I expect around 700W for the hole rig with 4 Vegas, these are just 20W too much... Sad
The efficiency of the PSU is min.92%@220V
This PSU has only 6 pci-e power cables? How are you going to have 8 cables for 4 vega's?
And what if it becomes profitable to mine eth or dual? Then your psu will be not enough
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October 23, 2017, 08:44:14 PM
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Hi,

I have got a question...

Actually I have one with 3 VEGA 64, mining XMR 1408-1100@905. Power consumtion for the whole rig is around 520Watt.
I have a 850W PSU "evga 850 g2 supernova".

Now my question: Does it work out to add a 4th VEGA to the rig with that one 850W PSU?

Thanks and cheers

Oskar


Only if it is Platinum-rated.  Otherwise, if gold rated, 80% rule of 850 is 680.  680-520 = 130 headroom for another Vega, I wouldn't do that on mine.
Thanks.
I expect around 700W for the hole rig with 4 Vegas, these are just 20W too much... Sad
The efficiency of the PSU is min.92%@220V
This PSU has only 6 pci-e power cables? How are you going to have 8 cables for 4 vega's?
And what if it becomes profitable to mine eth or dual? Then your psu will be not enough
You are right, but this very inconvenient, since the rig is with 4 Vegas (mining XMR) complete :-(
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October 23, 2017, 08:50:28 PM
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Hi,

I have got a question...

Actually I have one with 3 VEGA 64, mining XMR 1408-1100@905. Power consumtion for the whole rig is around 520Watt.
I have a 850W PSU "evga 850 g2 supernova".

Now my question: Does it work out to add a 4th VEGA to the rig with that one 850W PSU?

Thanks and cheers

Oskar


Only if it is Platinum-rated.  Otherwise, if gold rated, 80% rule of 850 is 680.  680-520 = 130 headroom for another Vega, I wouldn't do that on mine.

I thought its the other way around. 850W PSU will actually take up to 1062W from the wall, to output 850W DC, since the 80% efficiency. Still thats kinda weak PSU if you would want to mine ETH or else like rednow said.
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October 23, 2017, 09:05:19 PM
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Here are my results, running stable for a few hours now

https://imgur.com/a/KxdIw

4 x vega56 stock bios with softpowerplay mod running compute drivers
8gb of ddr3 ram
73gb Virtual memory (although 40-60 gb didn't make any difference)
 Power at the wall whole system is 670w
All card are runng 900mv core except 1 that needs 910, will tinker with that one again later.

Big thanks to all the people sharing information here , it's a bit help for us newbies !

how you apply softpowerplay mod ?       registry mod ?
what driver version ?

thnx

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October 23, 2017, 10:02:25 PM
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Here are my results, running stable for a few hours now

https://imgur.com/a/KxdIw

4 x vega56 stock bios with softpowerplay mod running compute drivers
8gb of ddr3 ram
73gb Virtual memory (although 40-60 gb didn't make any difference)
 Power at the wall whole system is 670w
All card are runng 900mv core except 1 that needs 910, will tinker with that one again later.

Big thanks to all the people sharing information here , it's a bit help for us newbies !

how you apply softpowerplay mod ?       registry mod ?
what driver version ?

thnx

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October 23, 2017, 10:25:46 PM
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I just want to thank everyone for being so helpful in this thread. Special thanks to Hellae for his reddit guide and Oldcomer's hardware for his YouTube guide. Just set up my two rigs today running 8 Vega 64s. I am at a combined 15300-15600 hashrate (pool just shows random numbers but calculated total hashes over 7 hours turn out around these numbers).

Running fine for 7 hours. Each system is consuming around 700watts from the wall, one has a killawatt and the other the Corsair RM1000i with Corsair link showing 700W and 93% efficiency on 230v. Hashrate seems a tad low but I had to leave shortly after putting them to work so I had no time to tinker.

One has a running monitor plugged in but I started the second one through TeamViewer (had disconnected the monitor while off) and seems to be running as well as the one with the monitor, maybe HDMI dummies aren't required after all!. I still ordered two and I am waiting for them. Both have onboard gpus as primary. I got two i3-4170s just because I might use them for other projects in the future (AES-NI support). 1000watt PSUS seem just fine so my advice is buy them if they are cheap instead of 1300+.

Have fun, I am!

would love to know how you are managing to run 8 Vegas on 1 x PSU. an only 1 Corsair RM1000 even..   Most of my rigs with 7/8 Vegas 56 are suffering from PSU issues and I have to power them with 2 x 1200/1000 or 1200/1600 etc etc.

sure you can tweak the cards to lower voltage but i think the initial bump at the start makes them a tad bit unstable.

Cheers

I think he is running 2 rigs with 4 vegas each Cheesy Otherwise hasrate would be a lot weaker than just a tad low (975h/s). Also 700W seems like a normal consumption for 4 vegas, even a bit high if aiming for 150w per card.

So im running 2 vega 64s and 2 vega 56 flashed to 64 bios.
Did soft power play registry.
  Im getting about 7700-7900. but some times it seems to drop to around 7600.
Other problem being my total power at the wall ATM is 940W seems high to me.
my sysem idle is around 50-60w.
Any ideal on howto bring the power down to the 130w even 150w each?

SO i did have everything up and running wattage was still alittle high but i can live with that.
then some how i lost everything.
 Have  done:
---DDu
---Reinstall blockchain driver
-- it took a few uninstall and reinstalls to pick up all cards again, Some showed up at RX vega(tx) in device manager.. any reason? now they are all back to just RXVEGA
i have 9 folders in my registry now.... do i need to remove some?(and how)
and Stak miner keeps getting blocked from accessing graphics hardwars error message>
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October 24, 2017, 02:09:57 AM
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Was having issues running 4x vegas + 4 1080 tis. Monero hash kept declining after a few hours even with 16gb ram. I upped it to 32 and it's been running flawlessly. Saw some posts about incorporating nvidia cards so thought I'd throw that out there.
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