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Author Topic: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees  (Read 704097 times)
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December 29, 2018, 07:43:38 AM
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for reference the segwit removal of 50% of the signatures is not in the above text. 

for reference the sub chain lightning network is not part of bitcoin. 

for reference the adding rolling checkpoints to avoid competing via proof of work is not in the text


So I guess all the trolls and legends cum troll here either have an agenda or are not able to read for comprehension.


WARNING if you are looking for bitcoin the project still exists despite the best efforts of this world power types.  It is found in BSV whcih stands for Bitcoin Satoshi Vision.

Do not accept any substitute for the real bitcoin or you risk being exposed to the worlds most undesirable type of liar, ie. those who would steal bitcoin from the world and lock it up on a shelf never to be seen.

These types prefer to stand on your neck and tell jokes in public like some hero.  I think some of these hateful types here would not save you if you were drowning.  Just my opinion. 

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December 29, 2018, 08:19:34 AM
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Do not accept any substitute for the real bitcoin or you risk being exposed to the worlds most undesirable type of liar, ie. those who would steal bitcoin from the world and lock it up on a shelf never to be seen.

I agree, but the real bitcoin, aka bitcoin (BTC), is doing just fine. It doesn't matter who says what about anything, the market has already spoken.

People who support SV are just fractioning away competition from bitcoin's only "true competitor" (not that it was much of one to begin with), BCH. It's great news for bitcoin to have to BCH factions warring amongst themselves and bitcoin at the same time.
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December 29, 2018, 08:22:48 AM
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There are really a lot of developers on BCH from various team. if Bitman will fire his developer (and this is only a rumor) it will be a damage, of course, but nothing of terrible.
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December 29, 2018, 09:36:20 AM
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This is a good 2016 Craig Wright reread.

https://gizmodo.com/this-australian-says-he-and-his-dead-friend-invented-bi-1746958692

Worried about my trust rating? I am too. Bitcointalk users ‘Lauda’ and ‘gmaxwell’ have abused their superior powers in trust system to align their views with the ‘correct views.’ In no legal system in any jurisdiction do we have a definition for what Bitcoin is, they do not have the power to tell us what it is based on the rule of law.
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December 29, 2018, 11:22:13 AM
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Failure ETH from PoW makes unnecessary XRP, XLM, EOS and similar. In the near future, the growth of ETH is likely to increase due to sales of these, and according to technical analysis, they are on the peaks to the ether now asking for a correction. But DASH and BCH will follow for ether in growth because they are oversold, at the bottom to ETH now and are unlikely to go below

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December 29, 2018, 12:27:47 PM
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Do not accept any substitute for the real bitcoin or you risk being exposed to the worlds most undesirable type of liar, ie. those who would steal bitcoin from the world and lock it up on a shelf never to be seen.

I agree, but the real bitcoin, aka bitcoin (BTC), is doing just fine. It doesn't matter who says what about anything, the market has already spoken.

People who support SV are just fractioning away competition from bitcoin's only "true competitor" (not that it was much of one to begin with), BCH. It's great news for bitcoin to have to BCH factions warring amongst themselves and bitcoin at the same time.

This war should end soon, with both of them rekt, this is my wish.   Wink
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December 29, 2018, 12:40:35 PM
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the market share was captured by ETH long-term taking away the domination of bitcoin until now, but in connection with the refusal of PoW, this share will go to BCH



To describe how the block size limit affects the speed and cost of transactions on the blockchain, let us use the following example:

It’s Saturday night and you’re about to visit the hottest club in town. Before this club became a big deal, it was a small local joint with a cool crowd, good music, and reasonably priced drinks in a small venue.

All of a sudden, people started talking about this venue and telling their friends, and now everyone wants to get in. The problem is, the club is in a building that can only hold 2,500 people. In this analogy, think of the club as a “block”, with limited storage capacity or size, and think of each patron as a bitcoin transaction.

When the club (block) is full at 2,500 people (transactions), the bouncer is instructed to form a line and start charging an increasingly high cover charge (transaction fees) for entry. More and more people keep coming to the hottest club in town, and as of today, the situation has become so bad that the line of people waiting outside is approximately 270,000 people long and the average cover charge is as high as $140. You’ve been waiting patiently for hours to get in, but people willing to pay more than you keep jumping to the front of the line and are keeping the club full. Even worse, each person (transaction) is only allowed to bid on their cover charge once. When you first got in line, you thought that paying $20 would be enough to get you in quickly, but now several thousand more people have joined the line and said they would pay more than you. There is nothing you can do but wait until everyone paying more than you gets in and the bouncer gets around to letting you in.

Despite this situation and much complaint from the community, the club management has stubbornly refused to move or build a larger building, and insist that a full club and ten times as many patrons waiting in line outside is not only good for business but that it would be impossible to expand their building to accommodate more patrons even if they wanted to.

In Bitcoin Core, the mempool is the lineup of people waiting to get into the club and the transaction fees are the cover charge the bouncer requires to let you into the 2,500 person capacity club.

At an average cost of as high as $140 per transaction and a line up of over 270,000 unconfirmed transactions, Bitcoin Core, a system that was created to explicitly be a “peer-to-peer-electronic cash system” has now become unusable for merchants and has priced out the majority of users in developed countries, let alone the entirety of users in smaller, developing countries.

https://www.bitcoin.com/info/what-is-bitcoin-cash

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December 29, 2018, 12:50:30 PM
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neat story.  what about when you realize BCH hates the miners and has changes in store to make them irrelevant?

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December 29, 2018, 12:54:01 PM
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The interests of the people before the interests of the miners probably

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December 29, 2018, 04:35:21 PM
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Things and apps are getting build on stable and scalable protocols.

https://mobile.twitter.com/peddlrph/status/1078950808933158912

https://mobile.twitter.com/PixelWallet/status/1078928647392657409?s=19

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December 29, 2018, 09:10:07 PM
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the engine on water invented long ago, but the fuel companys always destroy such inventions, so as not to lose power https://youtu.be/Jivb7lupDNU

therefore, a million old modems 56 for them is better than one novelty, the future for a gross increase of block size I think

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December 29, 2018, 09:14:38 PM
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As a Bitcoin fork in BCH there is child porn.
And with bigger blocks the possibility of something "bad" inside increase much.
Why not lower block time.... 2,5 min is safe many coins can be viewed

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December 29, 2018, 10:48:37 PM
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bitcoin is also big, thousands of asics he does not need, it is a waste of natural resources

 even money is not needed, it divides people into different categories

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December 30, 2018, 02:43:34 AM
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For all trolls and 1Meg core maximalists out there

https://busy.org/@truthforce/shills-and-the-shilly-things-they-do-to-make-money
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December 30, 2018, 05:00:32 AM
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yeah, i lost my only chance to buy cheap bch at $92
 
Yup! BCH price was going up very fast, i missed the chance to buy at below $100


Of course, next week you may be looking back thinking 'I should have bought when it was below $300'. Don't be that guy.
Aged badly?
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December 30, 2018, 06:22:10 AM
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you put the security on the money then everything else on top gets the benefit. 

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December 30, 2018, 06:30:51 AM
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yeah, i lost my only chance to buy cheap bch at $92
 
Yup! BCH price was going up very fast, i missed the chance to buy at below $100


Of course, next week you may be looking back thinking 'I should have bought when it was below $300'. Don't be that guy.
Aged badly?

Some people truly believe that by ramrodding their ego down the throats of a situation they can actually have an impact on reality.  Roll Eyes

This statement can be extrapolated to the entirety of the existence of SV... That camp tends to attract people with egos even bigger than the BCH camp.
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December 30, 2018, 07:36:48 AM
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yeah, i lost my only chance to buy cheap bch at $92
 
Yup! BCH price was going up very fast, i missed the chance to buy at below $100


Of course, next week you may be looking back thinking 'I should have bought when it was below $300'. Don't be that guy.
Aged badly?

Admittedly. Though tomorrow is another day.

Anyone with a campaign ad in their signature -- for an organization with which they are not otherwise affiliated -- is automatically deducted credibility points.

I've been convicted of heresy. Convicted by a mere known extortionist. Read my Trust for details.
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December 30, 2018, 09:10:37 AM
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yeah, i lost my only chance to buy cheap bch at $92
 
Yup! BCH price was going up very fast, i missed the chance to buy at below $100


Of course, next week you may be looking back thinking 'I should have bought when it was below $300'. Don't be that guy.
Aged badly?

Admittedly. Though tomorrow is another day.

$10 says you'll be wrong again tomorrow, and the next day, and many, many more to come.

Let's conduct an informal poll.

                           When do you believe BCH will reach the $300 mark?

That's an 84% rise from here. That means BTC will have go up somewhere between 50 and 60%. If SV keeps chipping away at its fanbase, it might be a lot longer.

My official guess is late February at the very earliest. Let's put an exact date on it: Feb 25th.

I'll be back either then or before then to admit I was wrong, though I doubt that I will be.

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December 30, 2018, 10:39:17 AM
Last edit: December 30, 2018, 02:27:43 PM by dkbit98
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This is 100% BS from real Faketoshi with true vision to scam everyone he can.
All his 'projects' will finish in trash

More info on this video from time 01:11:10:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck5XMXrRfso

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https://github.com/CultOfCraig/cult-of-craig/

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