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September 01, 2017, 10:32:32 AM
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New FAQ has been released by btc e admin

Question – Answer

Cases of phishing emails have been more frequent recently.
We would like to officially acknowledge our users that we never send any verification letters by email, please do not open files and do not follow links in those letters.

When will be the opening of trading?
If we do not encounter any bureaucratic issues, trading will be launched next week on a new platform.

How will my funds and profile be transferred to the new platform?
It will be done automatically; no additional actions from your side are required.

Will there be new passwords/2fa or all the security data will stay the same?
Everything will be transferred to a new platform.

Was my coin deposit credited to the account after 25.07?
All deposits up to the 1st of August included will be credited later (1-2 of September), it will be done automatically, no additional actions from your side are required. We will not be able to credit the deposits made after the 1st of August, as they are being controlled by the US.

My account was verified, will this verification be relevant?
The company that fulfilled the verification has abrogated a treaty unilaterally, that is why you will have to go through the verification again on a new platform.

I do not receive any emails?
Check the spam box, most likely our emails were filtered there.

When will you start paying out available funds?
This process can start in the next few days; we will let you know 1 day prior the launch.

The pool is asking for the private key to transfer ETH funds.
We can send you your private key if you create a ticket.

Will MT4 and PAMM be available in future?
Metatrader 4 White label and PAMM platforms were provided to us by Fxopen company. But after the charges were made by the US to our service they abrogated a treaty unilaterally.

Will there be access to trade without going through verification?
Yes there will be.

Will it be possible to verify several accounts that I had on the platform at once?
Yes it will be possible.

Are old coin deposit addresses still working?
Old addresses do not work now and all the coins sent to those addresses will not be deposited. New addresses will be generated for you on our new platform.

Will there be Bitcoin Betting on a new platform?
Yes, after we receive all necessary licenses.

You should submit a ticket if you encounter the following difficulties; Ticket system will be available from the next week.
Balance is displayed incorrectly
Funds from MT4 and PAMM were not deposited
The password is incorrect, you need to reset the 2fa, turn off white IPs list.
You did not receive funds that you requested for the withdrawal to the payment systems.
Your account has been blocked.
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September 01, 2017, 11:21:21 AM
Last edit: September 01, 2017, 11:34:59 AM by Beldar
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For those that complaint that BTC holders are bailling out Fiat holders:

BTC holder had 1 BTC@2546USD at downtime -> now 0.55BTC@4800= 2640USD AND 0.45BTCET@XXXBTC. They have no loses but great profit instead!

Fiat holder had 1000USD. Now 550USD converted to BTC/LTC/ETH at who nows which rate (downtime date rate will be great but sure its not happening) and 450USDET.

Conclusion BTC holders are not bailling out a shit because they are going to have big profits. Some of them may had hold their BTC from 2540 to 4800 but sure most of them wouldn't.

We fiat holders will have probably a 45% losses while BTC and ETH will have profits. No bailling out here.
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September 01, 2017, 11:31:11 AM
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any news?
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September 01, 2017, 11:54:29 AM
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Some of them may had hold their BTC from 2540 to 4800 but sure most of them wouldn't.

LOL please.
There has been NO major correction since BTC-e size.
Neither panic-selling.
It has been a continuous uptrend.
Therefore... most of the users would have hold indeed.

You cannot seriously think that most of the users would have liquidate 45% of their assets a month ago.
Especially in the biggest uptrend in BTC history.

Nonetheless, 55% plus token is better than nothing.
And it is also ok to socialize the losses.
I would have prefer a different token system though.
Like the original proposal, 1 BTC converted at today rates in USDtoken.
Because now, our 45% is basically frozen and we are missing the uptrend.




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September 01, 2017, 01:22:19 PM
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Some of them may had hold their BTC from 2540 to 4800 but sure most of them wouldn't.

LOL please.
There has been NO major correction since BTC-e size.
Neither panic-selling.
It has been a continuous uptrend.
Therefore... most of the users would have hold indeed.

You cannot seriously think that most of the users would have liquidate 45% of their assets a month ago.
Especially in the biggest uptrend in BTC history.

Nonetheless, 55% plus token is better than nothing.
And it is also ok to socialize the losses.
I would have prefer a different token system though.
Like the original proposal, 1 BTC converted at today rates in USDtoken.
Because now, our 45% is basically frozen and we are missing the uptrend.


This gentleman has the correct opinion

In future fiat holders should be kept in a secure quarintine area for risky assets. Similar to rabies containment. Also they should have a marker next to their name in the trollbox so people know they are dealing with fiat holders

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September 01, 2017, 01:27:39 PM
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If anything, trading means switching between fiat and crypto multiple times a day. For me at least. If you are actually holding and keeping 'your' crypto on an exchange, that is the actually retardation right there.
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September 01, 2017, 01:31:29 PM
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If anything, trading means switching between fiat and crypto multiple times a day. For me at least. If you are actually holding and keeping 'your' crypto on an exchange, that is the actually retardation right there.

This gentleman also has the correct opinion, if you aint trading then get your funds off exchange you numbnuts

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September 01, 2017, 01:51:13 PM
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Great to see that things are normalizing again and I could sign into their platform. Hopefully sometime in the future I can withdraw my assets.

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Hey guys,

So what is the deal with the PAMM accounts. I had very little on BTC-E. Most of my funds were tied up in PAMM. Obviously gone for the moment.

Any infos?

Cheers

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BTC-e said in news 2: "Metatrader 4 White label and PAMM platforms were provided to us by Fxopen company. But after the charges were made by the US to our service they abrogated a treaty unilaterally."

So, BTC-e have used FXOpen's MT4 platform making FXOpen somehow responsible for money for BTC-e client's MT4 accounts. At the same time FXOpen was offering crypto trading themself but using BTC-e as liquidity provider making BTC-e responsible for money that FXOpen clients have sent to BTC-e exchange. But it all depends how contract BTC-e and FXOpen been made for this "symbiotic" relationship. Is BTC-e anonymous to FXOpen? I don't think so.

So WHO does not know anything about BTC-e? Only BTC-e clients! But why? Guess all remember that festivity party in front of MtGox building.

Also I haven't heard did FXOpen frozen or not BTC-e client's balances on their MT4 platform. If they haven't frozen BTC-e balances, why would BTC-e tokenize MT4 balances?!
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September 01, 2017, 02:43:13 PM
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Hello

I want to restore my account but i havn't received any email, can you help me??

regards

what email did you send to please?
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September 01, 2017, 04:24:22 PM
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In future fiat holders should be kept in a secure quarintine area for risky assets. Similar to rabies containment. Also they should have a marker next to their name in the trollbox so people know they are dealing with fiat holders

The way you guys talk about fiat holders cracks me up!
Its an exchange - users trade assets on exchanges.
Either you are coin holders and shouldnt have been using an exchange to hold your coins or you traded in which case you were just lucky not to be in fiat at the time.
Fiat is where the clever money was at the time the exchange went down!
There's no such thing as a fiat holder in the context of exchanges...
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September 01, 2017, 04:31:33 PM
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In future fiat holders should be kept in a secure quarintine area for risky assets. Similar to rabies containment. Also they should have a marker next to their name in the trollbox so people know they are dealing with fiat holders

The way you guys talk about fiat holders cracks me up!
Its an exchange - users trade assets on exchanges.
Either you are coin holders and shouldnt have been using an exchange to hold your coins or you traded in which case you were just lucky not to be in fiat at the time.
Fiat is where the clever money was at the time the exchange went down!
There's no such thing as a fiat holder in the context of exchanges...

yes, that opionon makes me angry too. i went into fiat several days before, to buy some other coins, but this happened. now i am a bad guy holding fiat in your eyes?!? wtf is wrong with you guyz???

obviously, those in fiat are more pissed than the coinholders... but you dont have the right to trample on us. thats not fair.
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September 01, 2017, 04:47:48 PM
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In future fiat holders should be kept in a secure quarintine area for risky assets. Similar to rabies containment. Also they should have a marker next to their name in the trollbox so people know they are dealing with fiat holders

The way you guys talk about fiat holders cracks me up!
Its an exchange - users trade assets on exchanges.
Either you are coin holders and shouldnt have been using an exchange to hold your coins or you traded in which case you were just lucky not to be in fiat at the time.
Fiat is where the clever money was at the time the exchange went down!
There's no such thing as a fiat holder in the context of exchanges...

yes, that opionon makes me angry too. i went into fiat several days before, to buy some other coins, but this happened. now i am a bad guy holding fiat in your eyes?!? wtf is wrong with you guyz???

obviously, those in fiat are more pissed than the coinholders... but you dont have the right to trample on us. thats not fair.

Exactly!
Additionally people say that it was all the fiat that was taken by the feds.
When you trade to fiat, this is just a ledger - the trade doesnt result in a fiat output. Therefore none of the fiat we had on the exchange at that time was seized.
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September 01, 2017, 06:34:40 PM
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When you deposit coins or fiat money into btc-e, those funds are no longer yours. They are now recognised as the exchange's assets and each of you has a financial claim to those assets. So noone bails out the others. In the end, we are victims of the U.S. government's war on cryptocurrencies.
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September 01, 2017, 07:08:05 PM
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Guys, instead of talking of thin air...

New update!

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01.09.17 21:17 from admin
According to the announced plan, old personal accounts were opened to check the balance and make modifications to the security settings.

The launch date of the new site , which will operate in the legal field of AML, KYC , the necessary licenses with biddings (web, api) and the possibility of input and output (Fiat, Coins, Codes), is planned by September 15, 2017.

Tomorrow, on September 2, 2017, it will be possible to withdraw 55% of the funds from the account in koins on the condition that our debt obligations are abandoned to the remaining 45% of funds in the form of tokens.

More details about the conditions, the principle of calculation and the form of output will be available tomorrow.

What will happen to the funds ramaining in the accounts of those users, who decide to stay and wait for the the new site launch?

1. Your profile will be automatically transfered with all the security settings (password, 2fa, IP white list)
2. All your funds will be transferred to a new site.
3. On the day the site is launched, the balance will be recalculated at the market rate and will be credited to accounts with a higher ratio than 55/45.
4. Tokens will be credited to your account balance, which you can use for bidding and releasing codes.

That's not nice.
Our 45% it is not an optional.
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September 01, 2017, 07:10:55 PM
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Does anyone know their support email please?
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September 01, 2017, 07:28:21 PM
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I have not seen any e-mails from them. I tried to login yesterday and it asked to update password by sending an e-mail to the registered one. Nothing. Are U.S based e-mails getting blocked?  I have checked my spam filters and nothing.
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September 01, 2017, 08:06:37 PM
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I have not seen any e-mails from them. I tried to login yesterday and it asked to update password by sending an e-mail to the registered one. Nothing. Are U.S based e-mails getting blocked?  I have checked my spam filters and nothing.

Outlook email worked fine to reset the password last night. Of course, you can't log in from the US. You need a non-US VPN/proxy. There has also been a very heavy influx of password resets, since they are mandatory. Some people have reported that they needed to do it 2-3 times before the email showed up. I saw someone also mentioned that https://btc-e.nz/forgot worked for them.
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September 01, 2017, 08:09:31 PM
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Guys, instead of talking of thin air...

New update!

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Update from 01.09.2017

01.09.17 21:17 from admin
According to the announced plan, old personal accounts were opened to check the balance and make modifications to the security settings.

The launch date of the new site , which will operate in the legal field of AML, KYC , the necessary licenses with biddings (web, api) and the possibility of input and output (Fiat, Coins, Codes), is planned by September 15, 2017.

Tomorrow, on September 2, 2017, it will be possible to withdraw 55% of the funds from the account in koins on the condition that our debt obligations are abandoned to the remaining 45% of funds in the form of tokens.

More details about the conditions, the principle of calculation and the form of output will be available tomorrow.

What will happen to the funds ramaining in the accounts of those users, who decide to stay and wait for the the new site launch?

1. Your profile will be automatically transfered with all the security settings (password, 2fa, IP white list)
2. All your funds will be transferred to a new site.
3. On the day the site is launched, the balance will be recalculated at the market rate and will be credited to accounts with a higher ratio than 55/45.
4. Tokens will be credited to your account balance, which you can use for bidding and releasing codes.

That's not nice.
Our 45% it is not an optional.

This is a bit weird.

So our options are:

1) Get 55% now and write off anything more as losses

2)Wait for the new site where we will get more than 55% & Tokens for the rest.

This will of course allow them to mass funds from investors that would worry that the new platform is not going to happen.

However if it was a scam plan they would not even return 55%

I have approx. 2 BTC worth of LTC ETH and BTC in btc-e and I think I am going to stay and wait for the new platform.

What do you guys think;
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September 01, 2017, 08:13:38 PM
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This is a bit weird.

So our options are:

1) Get 55% now and write off anything more as losses

2)Wait for the new site where we will get more than 55% & Tokens for the rest.

This will of course allow them to mass funds from investors that would worry that the new platform is not going to happen.

However if it was a scam plan they would not even return 55%

I have approx. 2 BTC worth of LTC ETH and BTC in btc-e and I think I am going to stay and wait for the new platform.

What do you guys think;

Very interesting development. I'm not sure how I feel about this.

On one hand, they repeat themselves about the AML/KYC and licenses etc. for the new exchange. We still don't know the details about verification. So, it sounds like you can write off the 45% loss now and take the 55% withdrawal with no verification. Whether you can exit the new exchange without verification is unclear.

On the other hand, you will get more funds returned to your account if you stay and wait, due to the debts being written off.

I think, for me, the biggest issue is how balance conversion will happen. Still no news on that. That will affect my decision.
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