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August 09, 2017, 11:36:38 AM
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And the latest update via twitter ...

Update5! Important! 08/09/2017

Exit from the current situation with the arrested Fiat:

1. Last 14 days we were engaged in struggle for your means, it was possible to gain control over 55% of funds (depends on the course), the remaining 45% are arrested funds, the most part in fiat. As the arrest is withdrawn from the accounts, the amount will decrease.

2. What is the way out of the current situation we see:
2.1. Work under the current BTC-e brand is not possible due to unresolved issues from the Office of Financial Crimes of the US Treasury.
2.2. At the moment, we are negotiating with a group of investors (an investment company), about buying and prompt launch of the service and repaying debts to customers. Further, the process of repayment of debt obligations will be described in more detail.
2.3. After we transfer all balance sheets of the investment company, we will recalculate the balance sheets.
2.4. The conversion procedure, taking into account the available 55% of funds:
2.4.1. All liabilities for fiat (USD, EUR, RUR) will be transferred to BTE tokens (1 BTE is 1 USD) at the exchange rate on the date of conversion. Probably, for more operative closing of promissory notes, ICO will be held on BTE tokens.
2.4.2. If you have on the balance the amount in koin, then you will be written off 45% of the balance of coins and credited with 45% of BTE (1 BTE is 1 USD). At the exchange rate on the day of conversion.
2.4.3. If you have a balance in BTE, then you will be credited with 45% in coins (the sum will be divided into 7 different coins equally BTC, LTC, NMC, NVC, PPC, ETH, DSH) and write off the amount of 45% in BTE.
2.4.4. Upon all recalculations, all users will have the opportunity to withdraw 55% of their funds from the system.
2.5. The investment company works in compliance with KYC, AML and the licenses required for this activity, so all users will need to undergo verification.
2.6. Tentative start dates end of August.

3. All debt obligations will be closed primarily from operating income from the investment company's commission, as well as from the funds we plan to sue from those who illegally arrested them.

The closing of the debt will be based on the principle of buying BTE tokens from the market.

The next update will provide more details on the procedure for accessing information on your balance sheet and when these funds can be withdrawn.

From the BTC-e team we officially inform that all the funds that were in the reserve fund (including all our income) were transferred to pay off the debts.

P.S. A warning! The cases of posting fake links on allegedly our new domain have become more frequent. All official information about our service is placed only in our twitter and from our official account on the forum.

Sincerely, BTC-e team

Fortunately I speak fluent Google Translate and can interpret this nonsense:

1) All funds are socialised in to one big lump of shit
2) They are holding 55% of your funds (probably a lot more but hey what the fuck are you going to do?)
3) They will invent at BTE token, credit it to your account proportionate to your holdings then turn int into a basket of the usual bullshit BTC-e coins like LTC, PPC shit, NMC and all those other obsolete turd generation 1 coins - great
4) You can then withdraw those after more KYC verification bullshit
5) They will try and make the 45% good buy sueing The Man and commission on the new exchange?
6) Beware of ghoulish domain phishing

Overall: Its A Bitfinex style solution with the BTE token making everyone 100% good - hooray bot BTC-e and their efforts

No idea how correct this interpretation is

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August 09, 2017, 11:40:07 AM
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So do I understand it correctly that:

- Fiat will be converted to BTE tokens
- Coins will be returned with 45% of the value converted to BTE tokens
- 55% of your fund will be available to withdraw at once
- You will be allowed to withdraw the remaining 45% in BTE tokens at a later date (?)

Sucks that I went from btc -> fiat just before the site went down, as price has (so far) gone up like 50% since then :/. BUT, I'll be happy getting the money back for sure, better than losing it all.
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August 09, 2017, 11:46:19 AM
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Way i read it is:

Fiat users will get half BTE tokens and half coins
Coin users will get half coins and half BTE tokens

So both sides is fair
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August 09, 2017, 11:46:19 AM
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Such crap.
So if you had a balance of crypto on btc-e before, you get 55% of it in a BS btce token which will only be available on their system. Then can convert it to the base coins they have on hand at their price (currently all high) and can only withdraw 55% after. Also the btce token will crash hard and fast as people will start to get their funds out.

Sounds like utter sheyt to me.

If they held the crypto balances safely, they are up over 40% since the 25th. So not only are they up in profits, they are only refunding 55% of your initial value, which means they keep like 65% of the value per today's prices AND limit your withdrawals.

F'ing bullsht.

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August 09, 2017, 11:53:22 AM
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LOL.

How do they pretend to run a new service with the assets of a seized service ? Obviously the FBI will take it down as soon as they can proof the FinCen they are running with the coins not seized from BTC-e.

How does splitting their cold wallet into 1 million wallets help if they claim to be using those funds ?

Which will be the value of 1BTE after 1 day trading since there is no wire options ?

Everyone will buy BTC, LTC and ETH and run away after 1 hour running the service and the price of BTC/BTE will be like 1/10000 really soon.

For sure I will do that. Good Luck for those who stay in BTE after 1 day.

Well at least we can say that this is better than nothing and far more than we can expect from the FBI seized funds.
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August 09, 2017, 11:58:18 AM
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This is the gamble i suppose, reading up on BFX tokens they came through and all users were refunded whole.

To start with as you said many users cashed in tokens to "escape" with something rather than nothing, but by the end they the ones who held out got more value for money as the exchange brought them back with profits. Making users whole as was the promise.

This is much more encouraging that they are attempting to refund users back to 100% on a system which has worked in the the past, rather than "here is 45% of you funds - the end"

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August 09, 2017, 12:01:21 PM
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You guys are ridiculous. These guys were hammered by the FBI. They didn't just come to us and told us that bitcoin disappeared from their wallets like Bitfinex did.

Anything they do means effort from their side. They are fighting the whole system to keep trading going on and to give you your money back. So stop complaining. I'm saying this as someone who had 4 figures USD in btc-e.

And guess what: If they are back, I'll be buying the BTE tokens with the balance I have, and I'll wait until full redemption of the tokens.

Have a nice day folks.
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August 09, 2017, 12:02:31 PM
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So does this mean:

55 percent of the exact crypto I already held +
45 percent equivalent in btc-e token?

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August 09, 2017, 12:04:23 PM
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So does this mean:

55 percent of the exact crypto I already held +
45 percent equivalent in btc-e token?



Yes, and if you had bitcoin you'll have a nice appreciation of USD.
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Looks that way, users with a full FIAT value seem to be getting a split of all coins on the exchange along with tokens.
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This is the gamble i suppose, reading up on BFX tokens they came through and all users were refunded whole.

To start with as you said many users cashed in tokens to "escape" with something rather than nothing, but by the end they the ones who held out got more value for money as they exchange brought them back with profits.

This is much more encouraging that they are attempting to refund users back to 100% on a system which has worked in the the past, rather than "here is 45% of you funds - the end"



+1 The cash in and run types got pretty rekt on Bitfinex. If the BTC-E backer companies can get a handle on the legal side of things and sue the shit out of the US gov then there is a decent chance of holders getting full refund. Hellabetter than a 55% payoff

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August 09, 2017, 12:06:27 PM
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Way i read it is:

Fiat users will get half BTE tokens and half coins
Coin users will get half coins and half BTE tokens

So both sides is fair

Sounds like they are short of funds mainly because of the seized fiat, though the did suggest that they don't have all their crypto either, so they are looking at a revenue raising scheme.

It would piss me off if the FBI seized more than the DOJ $110m fine value, even the $110m was outrageous and should be contested.

I didn't see the FBI seizing the $14bn fine the US imposed on Deutsche Bank and redirecting their domain last year, seems to be double standards.





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August 09, 2017, 12:08:18 PM
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You guys are ridiculous. These guys were hammered by the FBI. They didn't just come to us and told us that bitcoin disappeared from their wallets like Bitfinex did.

Anything they do means effort from their side. They are fighting the whole system to keep trading going on and to give you your money back. So stop complaining. I'm saying this as someone who had 4 figures USD in btc-e.

And guess what: If they are back, I'll be buying the BTE tokens with the balance I have, and I'll wait until full redemption of the tokens.

Have a nice day folks.

I don't see any way this is not just a 'shut up and take it, while we rip you an ahole and keep your money' deal.

Ps. Your 4digit loss is chump change to some other people on here.  Sad

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August 09, 2017, 12:08:35 PM
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I am expecting that total rundown on BTE token value cuz of the major panic thats gonna hit. I will be scooping them up and make tons of profit. Cheesy
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August 09, 2017, 12:21:24 PM
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I am waiting for the motherfuckers to talk this down. Come on, I am at you already.
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August 09, 2017, 12:24:48 PM
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Also waiting to get back on the trading mission, seems UK have very limited options in this regard...
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August 09, 2017, 12:25:49 PM
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FFS I cant beleive some of the ungrateful BS some of you come up with.
And all the scepticism about buying time - why the fuck do you think they even bother to talk to us if their intentions are to rip us off!
I really do beleive that these guys are sincerely and honourably trying to make a bad situation as good as possible.
I wasnt expecting to get a penny back - for me, anything is a bonus.
Cut these guys a break - they are doing their best!
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August 09, 2017, 12:27:02 PM
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Hey, this is much better than I ever tought it  would be, and this is epic. It is just 1 -shady- company against the FBI!
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August 09, 2017, 12:28:05 PM
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Also waiting to get back on the trading mission, seems UK have very limited options in this regard...

UK too huh!
How do you mean limited options?
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August 09, 2017, 12:30:22 PM
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Also waiting to get back on the trading mission, seems UK have very limited options in this regard...

UK too huh!
How do you mean limited options?

Ignore last message - I understand now...
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