BTC-e hacked ??

[erk]

BTC-e is banned in Russia, like most Bitcoin exchanges. Russians cannot access the .com domain, which is why they used the .nz domain. In fact, BTC-e was originally hosted on a .ru domain; they changed to .com (and supposedly moved operations to Bulgaria) when the Russian government targeted them.

Insiders like Penek and several people over the years who have suggested they know the owners' identities from the launching days of the site have suggested they are Russian. (This was in the context of whether Vinnik was an owner and whether the owners ever would have set foot in Greece -- the answer to both questions is no).

WTF are you talking about?

MaRSe is a huge Bitcoin exchange right in the heart of Moscow!

Domain names have nothing to do with the location of the servers or the offices behind a website.

btc-e.ru was registered in 2014, years after btc-e.com had already started trading.

BTC-e admin has written publicly that Vinnik has nothing to do with ownership or running of BTC-e.

[erk]

If you want to know where BTC-e.nz is located. It's here in Switzerlan:

http://geoiplookup.net/ip/46.28.204.197

That is where mail.btc-e.nz is located ie. their email service provider.

Most people who received their password reset link email a week ago might have already have noticed it came from a Swiss email provider.

[deisik]

I entirely agree with you

Even if they had placed the servers somewhere in Russia, they would have been quickly seized by the Russian FSB itself rather than the FBI. Btc-e owners seem to be from Russia, and now they have to stay in Russia pretty much like Snowden has. If they travel abroad somewhere, they will be caught just like Vinnik was, then extradited to the US soon thereafter, and serve a solid term in an American prison. I don't really know whether it is good or bad that the owners are now sort of "travel banned"

Why would the Russian FSB want to seize BTC-e servers? What crime was committed in Russia?

What makes you think the BTC-e owners live in Russia, do you know who they are?

No, I don't know who they are

But this is sort of public knowledge that the Btc-e owners are Russians. It is obvious for anyone speaking the Russian language fluently enough and reading their tweets as well as posts here to understand that Russian is their mother tongue and Russia (maybe, Ukraine) is their home country. They don't (didn't) necessarily live in Russia, of course, but now they seem to have to (pretty much like Snowden, lol)

[erk]

No, I don't know who they are

But this is sort of public knowledge that the Btc-e owners are Russians. It is obvious for anyone speaking the Russian language fluently enough and reading their tweets as well as posts here to understand that Russian is their mother tongue and Russia (maybe, Ukraine) is their home country. They don't (didn't) necessarily live in Russia, of course, but now they seem to have to (pretty much like Snowden, lol)

Once again you jump to conclusions, you assume that the people making the tweets are the owners and not just employees.

[deisik]

No, I don't know who they are

But this is sort of public knowledge that the Btc-e owners are Russians. It is obvious for anyone speaking the Russian language fluently enough and reading their tweets as well as posts here to understand that Russian is their mother tongue and Russia (maybe, Ukraine) is their home country. They don't (didn't) necessarily live in Russia, of course, but now they seem to have to (pretty much like Snowden, lol)

Once again you jump to conclusions, you assume that the people making the tweets are the owners and not just employees

So what is your point?

If you are going to say that the Btc-e owners are not Russians, then what are your proofs? If you have them, disclose them to us, if you don't have anything of substance, then don't post meaningless shit. I don't mean to say that people who are pressing the buttons here and there are necessarily the owners, but it would be rather strange to see all info related to exchange operation first posted in Russian if the owners weren't Russians, wouldn't it?

[illyiller]

BTC-e is banned in Russia, like most Bitcoin exchanges. Russians cannot access the .com domain, which is why they used the .nz domain. In fact, BTC-e was originally hosted on a .ru domain; they changed to .com (and supposedly moved operations to Bulgaria) when the Russian government targeted them.

Insiders like Penek and several people over the years who have suggested they know the owners' identities from the launching days of the site have suggested they are Russian. (This was in the context of whether Vinnik was an owner and whether the owners ever would have set foot in Greece -- the answer to both questions is no).

WTF are you talking about?

MaRSe is a huge Bitcoin exchange right in the heart of Moscow!

Huge? I've never heard of them and can't find them listed on Coin Market Cap. What sort of volume do they do?

The Russian government has banned dozens of bitcoin exchanges over the years. Google it. The Prosecutor General's Office even stated that their use was prohibited under Article 27, saying that bitcoin is a money substitute in 2014. There was a fresh list of sites banned shortly before BTC-e was taken down. Can't find it right now because of all the more notable recent news results.

btc-e.ru was registered in 2014, years after btc-e.com had already started trading.

That's just when it was last registered. This would have been years prior to that. They were on both .com and .ru back in 2012. Here's one example of a user using the Russian domain to access the API in 2012: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133347.0

Both domains were blocked by the Russian government. Why do you think all Russians customers used BTC-e.nz for years?

BTC-e admin has written publicly that Vinnik has nothing to do with ownership or running of BTC-e.

I don't think anyone is saying otherwise in this thread...

[jubalix]

Ok so I am really impressed that despite the USA money grab and destruction of property rights it looks like btc-e is coming back. Truly they are the good guys.

So when I log in I can see all my funds....how do you withdraw...has anyone has success?

I am not sure I will withdraw as  I want to support them, but i would like to know I could withdraw

As I understand it we take a 45% hair cut also  I can not see the /refund page can anyone screen shot it an put it here? or copy paste the text?

[jubalix]

Also Are they requiring ID verification after the 15th launch date for withdrawals?

[illyiller]

Ok so I am really impressed that despite the USA money grab and destruction of property rights it looks like btc-e is coming back. Truly they are the good guys.

So when I log in I can see all my funds....how do you withdraw...has anyone has success?

I am not sure I will withdraw as  I want to support them, but i would like to know I could withdraw

As I understand it we take a 45% hair cut also  I can not see the /refund page can anyone screen shot it an put it here? or copy paste the text?

Here is the text of the terms from the refund page. Can't seem to upload a screenshot at the moment:

This page is made for an immediate return of funds for those who do not want to wait, or do not believe in us.

You can receive 55% of your funds immediately, without verification, provided by your consent to refuse to receive the other 45% of funds.

All funds will be returned in coins only. That is why if you had funds in fiat currencies (USD, RUR, EUR), first they will be converted into USD at the exchange rate of Central Bank of Russian Federation, after that USD will be converted into liquid coins(50% BTC, 25% LTC, 25% ETH) at the exchange rate of other cryptocurrency exchanges and returned to them.

If you can't reach the refund page while logged in, that's very strange. It was not clear how long of a window users would have to take the refund (up until the 15th?), so hopefully you still have the ability. I'm tempted to log in when I get home to see what the deal is.

There are reports of people receiving refunds over the past week or so. If you take the refund now, you will lose 45%. If you stay, supposedly you will receive > 55% in liquid funds and the rest in tradable debt tokens.

[omarabid]

do i need to change the 2FA before the 15?

[RedMana]

Just chiming in to say I opted for the refund and received it as promised.

[forzendiablo]

when the new exchange is back i will support it 100% this guys rock..

who else would pay back for FBI stealing money? exchanges die after hacks or so. this guys have some balls and need real support

[jubalix]

Ok so I am really impressed that despite the USA money grab and destruction of property rights it looks like btc-e is coming back. Truly they are the good guys.

So when I log in I can see all my funds....how do you withdraw...has anyone has success?

I am not sure I will withdraw as  I want to support them, but i would like to know I could withdraw

As I understand it we take a 45% hair cut also  I can not see the /refund page can anyone screen shot it an put it here? or copy paste the text?

Here is the text of the terms from the refund page. Can't seem to upload a screenshot at the moment:

This page is made for an immediate return of funds for those who do not want to wait, or do not believe in us.

You can receive 55% of your funds immediately, without verification, provided by your consent to refuse to receive the other 45% of funds.

All funds will be returned in coins only. That is why if you had funds in fiat currencies (USD, RUR, EUR), first they will be converted into USD at the exchange rate of Central Bank of Russian Federation, after that USD will be converted into liquid coins(50% BTC, 25% LTC, 25% ETH) at the exchange rate of other cryptocurrency exchanges and returned to them.

If you can't reach the refund page while logged in, that's very strange. It was not clear how long of a window users would have to take the refund (up until the 15th?), so hopefully you still have the ability. I'm tempted to log in when I get home to see what the deal is.

There are reports of people receiving refunds over the past week or so. If you take the refund now, you will lose 45%. If you stay, supposedly you will receive > 55% in liquid funds and the rest in tradable debt tokens.

do you know if we will have to verify after the 15th to withdraw funds?

[hua_hui]

when the new exchange is back i will support it 100% this guys rock..

who else would pay back for FBI stealing money? exchanges die after hacks or so. this guys have some balls and need real support

I also agree that these guys rock. They could have easily just ran away with all the 55% of the fund and nobody would know that. We will just assume that all went to the FBI and these btc/alt coins will be auction off to some random buyers by the government, while nothing is left for us. The famous example of mtgox had left us with a deep impression that as long as the exchange is down, the user would have lost everything. For that mtgox case, even though they later manage to find btc in old address wallet, to get the partial refund has been ongoing for years with the government involved in it.

[erk]

when the new exchange is back i will support it 100% this guys rock..

who else would pay back for FBI stealing money? exchanges die after hacks or so. this guys have some balls and need real support

I also agree that these guys rock. They could have easily just ran away with all the 55% of the fund and nobody would know that. We will just assume that all went to the FBI and these btc/alt coins will be auction off to some random buyers by the government, while nothing is left for us. The famous example of mtgox had left us with a deep impression that as long as the exchange is down, the user would have lost everything. For that mtgox case, even though they later manage to find btc in old address wallet, to get the partial refund has been ongoing for years with the government involved in it.

Best part about Mt Gox was they claimed they had $500mill in reserves just weeks before they filed for bankruptcy according to Wikipedia.

[TheMafia2]

https://btc-e.nz/news/6

Update of 10.09.2017
10.09.17 20:43 from admin

Dear BTC-e users!

Today we launch ticket system; you can find it following this link - https://wex.kayako.com/

The portal is available in 2 languages Russian and English.

Questions about old accounts that you can solve through ticket system until 15.09.2017:

1. Questions about return of 55% of funds until 15.09.2017
2. Receiving private keys for withdrawal of funds from pools.
3. Questions about coins deposited from 25.07.17 to 1.08.17 (included)

Questions that you can solve only after passing the verification on the new platform:
1. Disabling the 2fa if you don’t have access to it.
2. Changing of the email address.
3. Unblocking the account (If it was blocked before 25.07.2017)
4. The search of deposits and withdrawals using wire transfer (SEPA, SWIFT, etc.)

Information about PAMM
- Returns on PAMM accounts have been credited to all users.

Respectfully BTC-e team

[shrodix]

Also Are they requiring ID verification after the 15th launch date for withdrawals?

read the FAQ

[bigguy597]

I put btcs in my acc,i sold some btcs.
So now have some btcs and some fiat.
My account its not verified.
In 15 sept ill have my account ready for trade, so means i can buy btcs with my fiat and withdrawl without verification?
I dont need withdrawl fiat
Or as i have fiat need verification?

Thx

[cryptomole]

I put btcs in my acc,i sold some btcs.
So now have some btcs and some fiat.
My account its not verified.
In 15 sept ill have my account ready for trade, so means i can buy btcs with my fiat and withdrawl without verification?
I dont need withdrawl fiat
Or as i have fiat need verification?

Thx

I couldnt work this out either.
My take on it was that you need verification to trade fiat.
It was a bit misleading though as they also talked about your fiat being returned in btc, ltc, eth by percentage - I couldnt be sure if this only related to the refund.
Also the problem was that if it was converted to coin that this may happen on the 15th. If this was the case then you would just have to accept the rate of the market on the day.
The other potential issue was that if your only option with fiat was to be verified before you could trade - they could have a large backlog of verification requests, meaning you would just sit there and watch the markets without being able to do anything.
I concluded as a result that the best optioin for fiat holders would be to opt for the refund at the best rate before 15th
Thats just my take...

[bigguy597]

I put btcs in my acc,i sold some btcs.
So now have some btcs and some fiat.
My account its not verified.
In 15 sept ill have my account ready for trade, so means i can buy btcs with my fiat and withdrawl without verification?
I dont need withdrawl fiat
Or as i have fiat need verification?

Thx

I couldnt work this out either.
My take on it was that you need verification to trade fiat.
It was a bit misleading though as they also talked about your fiat being returned in btc, ltc, eth by percentage - I couldnt be sure if this only related to the refund.
Also the problem was that if it was converted to coin that this may happen on the 15th. If this was the case then you would just have to accept the rate of the market on the day.
The other potential issue was that if your only option with fiat was to be verified before you could trade - they could have a large backlog of verification requests, meaning you would just sit there and watch the markets without being able to do anything.
I concluded as a result that the best optioin for fiat holders would be to opt for the refund at the best rate before 15th
Thats just my take...

Thx
Ill wait,i trust btce will do the best
They could run,but they are here,ill try support their,working on the new site,a.s i did in btce