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[BitcoinHunt3r]

https://twitter.com/DramaAlert/status/1744103940608720947?t=DZoTO7jKEJ-98nz71-6fKg&s=19

Has anyone watched this viral video from Stake Blackjack where the dealer steals the player's card and takes it for himself? The video is cut. I want to see the entire card distribution. So that we can really see what happened from the beginning. I've encountered a similar situation in BlackJack but not in stake.com (I forgot the site but for it was a provider) where the dealer mistakenly distributed cards, much like what happened in this video.

Haha I just watched the video and I really laughed like watching an amateur dealer but I focus on the bet amount, is the bet on the table $22? is there a possibility that the casino owner/provider is cheating for the $22? or is this just a mistake made by the dealer? of course there are still many questions and possibilities but I won't say anything as a gambler I know what I think and anyone who has proof like in this video should get a refund + bonus. I know some casinos give bonuses when making mistakes.

If we reduce the number of wins from the number of losses, we can see that I lost 8,327 bets (86,612 minus 78,285 = 8,327)
Losing 8,327 bets out of 180,904 bets placed = 4,6% of the bets lost.

Good analysis my friend, but when playing in blackjack games and other games we get 1 out of 3 results Win, Lose and Draw  from the explanation above it seems that you have not calculated the draw bets unfortunately it is not shown in your account statistics so when you feel like you lost 8,327 bets maybe it's a draw bets, I think that makes sense or maybe you have another more reasonable reason, let us know

[Z_MBFM]

Has anyone watched this viral video from Stake Blackjack where the dealer steals the player's card and takes it for himself?

It has gotten the attention of a wide range of people, including Stake users. A forum member has already created a topic about this. You should also check this tweet. Eddie has replied to the first one by addressing it as a mistake by the dealer. I don't know how the whole gambling community will judge this, but it will surely create a little negative impact on Stake reputation.

I have been playing blackjack for a long time on stake websites and I have exaggerated the amount of wagers here depending on my financial status. But I am sometimes very surprised when the dealer beats all the players with 20/21 despite getting a lot of bad cards. I don't know if this is due to good card stacking or if the dealer has a trick. I lost huge amount of money here. And recently vowed that I would never play blackjack again. And now I saw such a video. stake is considered a very reputable site so I don't think they should do anything to ruin their reputation.

[Bitinity]

Haha I just watched the video and I really laughed like watching an amateur dealer but I focus on the bet amount, is the bet on the table $22? is there a possibility that the casino owner/provider is cheating for the $22? or is this just a mistake made by the dealer? of course there are still many questions and possibilities but I won't say anything as a gambler I know what I think and anyone who has proof like in this video should get a refund + bonus. I know some casinos give bonuses when making mistakes.

I have to agree about refund or maybe it will be better if the bet is cancelled directly when the dealer make a mistake like that. I think that will be the fairest action for both the casino and the player. I'm not pretty sure what Stake did after they watched this video, did they give a refund to the player? And I think we should put the bet amount aside because it is not the main problem here. Even if the bet amount is just few cents, there should be fair rule/term when there is a mistake from the dealer. 

[BitcoinHunt3r]

I have to agree about refund or maybe it will be better if the bet is cancelled directly when the dealer make a mistake like that. I think that will be the fairest action for both the casino and the player. I'm not pretty sure what Stake did after they watched this video, did they give a refund to the player? And I think we should put the bet amount aside because it is not the main problem here. Even if the bet amount is just few cents, there should be fair rule/term when there is a mistake from the dealer. 

I think it depends on which way we look at it, we all agree it was clearly a mistake by the dealer the question is whether it was intentionally to cheat players or just a technical error/human error if we consider it to be cheating then we have to consider the bet amount because it doesn't make sense for them to risk their reputation for just $22 and also risks losing users, if it is a technical error then the dealer must get a warning from the provider because it can give rise to negative assumptions. By the way, the dealer and everything in the studio does not belong to stake.com they only rent from third parties so Stake cannot take action against the dealer however Stake may submit a complaint.

[BlackyJacky]

If we reduce the number of wins from the number of losses, we can see that I lost 8,327 bets (86,612 minus 78,285 = 8,327)
Losing 8,327 bets out of 180,904 bets placed = 4,6% of the bets lost.

Good analysis my friend, but when playing in blackjack games and other games we get 1 out of 3 results Win, Lose and Draw from the explanation above it seems that you have not calculated the draw bets unfortunately it is not shown in your account statistics so when you feel like you lost 8,327 bets maybe it's a draw bets, I think that makes sense or maybe you have another more reasonable reason, let us know

Thank you for your interest in this issue.  

1) A draw bet is neutral, therefore I can not see why it is unfortunate that they are not stated in the statistics?

2) I do not feel like I lost 8,327 bets and my Stake Statistics clrearly state that I did.

3) No, your suggestion that Stake counts the draw bets as lost bets does not make sense, because 8,5% of all bets are draw bets plus the 0,5% advertised house edge = 9% of the bets lost.

So if Stake would count the neutral draw bets as lost bets, my Stake Statistics must state that I lost 9% of my bets instead of 4,6%

[boumalo]

I have to agree about refund or maybe it will be better if the bet is cancelled directly when the dealer make a mistake like that. I think that will be the fairest action for both the casino and the player. I'm not pretty sure what Stake did after they watched this video, did they give a refund to the player? And I think we should put the bet amount aside because it is not the main problem here. Even if the bet amount is just few cents, there should be fair rule/term when there is a mistake from the dealer. 

I think it depends on which way we look at it, we all agree it was clearly a mistake by the dealer the question is whether it was intentionally to cheat players or just a technical error/human error if we consider it to be cheating then we have to consider the bet amount because it doesn't make sense for them to risk their reputation for just $22 and also risks losing users, if it is a technical error then the dealer must get a warning from the provider because it can give rise to negative assumptions. By the way, the dealer and everything in the studio does not belong to stake.com they only rent from third parties so Stake cannot take action against the dealer however Stake may submit a complaint.

It's a good thing it was caught up and not swept under the rug.

[ryzaadit]

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As a person who is playing (Live-CASINO)

In-case you have some problem, while these start to record everything. You can contact (Support) from EVO-Games and then get a voucher refund from them, and for the dealer reading some comments on the internet.

That's dealer is finish ~XD A mistake like these is leading to fired him. His mistake is really big not just like drop player card ~XD.

[serjent05]

I think it depends on which way we look at it, we all agree it was clearly a mistake by the dealer the question is whether it was intentionally to cheat players or just a technical error/human error if we consider it to be cheating then we have to consider the bet amount because it doesn't make sense for them to risk their reputation for just $22 and also risks losing users, if it is a technical error then the dealer must get a warning from the provider because it can give rise to negative assumptions. By the way, the dealer and everything in the studio does not belong to stake.com they only rent from third parties so Stake cannot take action against the dealer however Stake may submit a complaint.

It is probably a human error, no one will stake his job to cheat for only $22  and the video is cut so we don't clearly see what happens.  Is the dealer new to the job?  It looks like he was confused about the distribution of cards and how on earth one of the players already got 4 cards while the others are only getting their third card.  And I think the dealer will be fired after the video went viral.  Whether it was intentional or not, the dealer made a mistake big-time and got caught in a recording camera.

[ryzaadit]

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Yap you're correct.

I have some dealer who are make a mistake drop the card, as long the card is correct from my perspective. I never snitch them, the cost is getting fired/salary getting 1/3 ~xd remember they working 12 hour shift while just deal card online without any sunlight.

These dealer mistake is really big not just he not make sure the card getting scanned, but he also wrongly put the card.

[Wiwo]

I have to agree about refund or maybe it will be better if the bet is cancelled directly when the dealer make a mistake like that. I think that will be the fairest action for both the casino and the player. I'm not pretty sure what Stake did after they watched this video, did they give a refund to the player? And I think we should put the bet amount aside because it is not the main problem here. Even if the bet amount is just few cents, there should be fair rule/term when there is a mistake from the dealer. 

I think it depends on which way we look at it, we all agree it was clearly a mistake by the dealer the question is whether it was intentionally to cheat players or just a technical error/human error if we consider it to be cheating then we have to consider the bet amount because it doesn't make sense for them to risk their reputation for just $22 and also risks losing users, if it is a technical error then the dealer must get a warning from the provider because it can give rise to negative assumptions. By the way, the dealer and everything in the studio do not belong to stake.com they only rent from third parties so Stake cannot take action against the dealer however Stake may submit a complaint.

There is little to nothing that a casino can do when it comes to game settlements aside from just payout and think the dealer has all the power over the games to either reward or cancelled the bet,  and in some cases,  the dealer even makes the rules for the casinos to follow as regards the rented games,  so instead of blaming stake so much about this,  it be better for us to focus more on getting stake own side of the story,  since we are discussing this matter.

Secondly, $22 is very small an amount for a big casino-like stake to steal from a player and in this case, since the provider is wholly in charge it means that stake may be clean on this and for sure we will see the bottom line conclusion to this issues in no time.

[Betwrong]

Thank you! Normally if I bet with high odds it's below $0.50 my bet is, but it was for the Perfect 10 contest, and you should make a bet of $1 minimum, with odds 10.00 or above and with betting on minimum 10 outcomes. And after selecting 10 games I saw that my odds where unnecessary above 50.00, and I thought "Ah, f*ck it, I'll leave it like that!" And I won. I lost my bets with the odds like 12.00 and 15.00, but I won with 54.46.

It's a f*** beauty of gambling. Congratulations to you.

Bet with abnormal higher odds than your favorite and with bigger bet value than usual, but at the end you got a lucky win. It's damn stimulating and really increase your dopamine. You are a pro gambler and I really sure you will simply enjoy your win, restructure your balance and capital for gambling and try your luck next times.

A pro gambler is different than newbie gambler by never bet all and never bet with super high multipliers continously.

Thank you. I think I'm not a pro in a sense that there are some guys that live from gambling and I'm far from being like them. But in the sense that I gamble almost every day, yes, I am a pro then. I enjoy cases like this very much, and as you know yourself, I'm sure, they happen from time to time if you gamble often, and it's then when you think it was all worth it. I wish you to win with a high multiplier soon. Just keep trying from time to time.

[fullhdpixel]

The rate limiter is so sensitive on Stake, can't even use autobet without getting restricted after a couple of minutes for too many requests, with instant bet option it's even faster.

in the last few days, autobet speed on originals is quite good, i guess many ppl are still on vacation or so, we will see ...

Yeah true and I noticed that the betting speed is slowed down when there is a bonus out. Around weekly and monthly bonuses, the betting speed is really bad and often gets stopped and have to restart the auto bet.

Another thing I noticed that if you bet on Plinko and use hotkeys, select instant bet and press space. Then you get timed out after 40-50 bets and you have to refresh as the page becomes unresponsive otherwise. Don't know if I was able to explain what I mean but basically you get timed out by stake if you place too many bets within a few seconds.

[Warfare]

The rate limiter is so sensitive on Stake, can't even use autobet without getting restricted after a couple of minutes for too many requests, with instant bet option it's even faster.

in the last few days, autobet speed on originals is quite good, i guess many ppl are still on vacation or so, we will see ...

It still happens, by rate limiter I mean their DDoS protection gets triggered.

[ryzaadit]

since the provider is wholly in charge it means that stake may be clean on this and for sure we will see the bottom line conclusion to this issues in no time.

In reality, people don't know these

Most the time they will blame on (Stake) due the table having a stake name, they don't know the stake only make a deal with evolution to set up the table. That's mean, everything is still on provider side.

If they contact support, they will get voucher refund.

[Wiwo]

since the provider is wholly in charge it means that stake may be clean on this and for sure we will see the bottom line conclusion to this issues in no time.

In reality, people don't know these

Most the time they will blame on (Stake) due the table having a stake name, they don't know the stake only make a deal with evolution to set up the table. That's mean, everything is still on provider side.

If they contact support, they will get voucher refund.

Yeah there have been alot of misconceptions and misunderstanding regarding that, and for sure stake have always been blamed for whatever that happens but also none the less, support will be in a better position to make everything right for the player and his ability to be patient to get feedback from the support is another thing.

Because it will take time for stake to contact the game providers in some cases and getting back to the player with respons all this takes time so he need patience, hard it been that, the game is own by stake then solving such issues could have been alot easier.

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[Mahdirakib]

I have some dealer who are make a mistake drop the card, as long the card is correct from my perspective. I never snitch them, the cost is getting fired/salary getting 1/3 ~xd remember they working 12 hour shift while just deal card online without any sunlight.

Well, mistakes can happen from any of us. These mistakes are indeed rare. But it has happened in the Stake exclusive table game. And it was a strange behaviour from the card dealer. He had altered the card while everything was visible there (all card numbers), the dealer has done everything in a worried way. That's why some people are taking it negatively.

[ryzaadit]

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Yap correct.

Also, these dealers is online-dealer. As we know, in the West) things they always have a small payment meanwhile most of them are hoping from (tips) customer. The problem, even the dealer have a good rating they not get anything bonus from customer because there is no (tips) things

Comparing to landbase (real casino), while dealer can get some tips shared to all co-worker. The dealer looks confused, to many shift i guess ~xd.

[SATWAT]

I have some dealer who are make a mistake drop the card, as long the card is correct from my perspective. I never snitch them, the cost is getting fired/salary getting 1/3 ~xd remember they working 12 hour shift while just deal card online without any sunlight.

Well, mistakes can happen from any of us. These mistakes are indeed rare. But it has happened in the Stake exclusive table game. And it was a strange behaviour from the card dealer. He had altered the card while everything was visible there (all card numbers), the dealer has done everything in a worried way. That's why some people are taking it negatively.

Here I have to be agreed with you about this all with due to tough competition few rivals are using their own social media and other tactics for spreading this all with still all is ok and nothing wrong going to happen, but they never miss any opportunity while they are having chance and not use this I personally have few messages and other things regarding this issue but still I am feeling ok and doing my all stuff without any problem.

Stake is doing amazing stuff in last few years and now changing the concept of the sports betting and other stuff which is surely not compare able, so with these all still many are having faith and doing all as they were doing before this all.