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Author Topic: [ANN] PLAYKEY: DECENTRALIZED CLOUD GAMING PLATFORM  (Read 41870 times)
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October 13, 2017, 07:58:04 PM
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Just saw that Playkey made it to Forbes. This article definitely showed Playkey in a very positive light. Great publicity for Playkey.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chongchris/2017/10/11/cloud-gaming-is-launching-in-southeast-asia-using-blockchain-to-empower-gamers/#68958b4843a5

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October 13, 2017, 08:13:47 PM
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I missed this Ann and only now I've heard of this project.

After reading the whitepaper I'm going to go ahead and call it a scam (not that in 7 pages anyone seem to care if this project could even work, people just seem to just blindly trust the project showing exactly what's wrong with ICOs).


First off, you can't possibly run already existing games in a decentralized manner. Running interactive games is not just 3D rendering, the game has to practically fully run on the "mining" machine including resources like CPU/RAM/storage.

And you can't run the majority of games multiple time (online DRM, 1 account/instance) so multiple miners running the same game for one player is impossible.

So it's already centralized in a sense that 1 miner = 1 player. And if that miner has issues the player will lose progress. The gamer would also want to play games on his account which would be hard to hide from the miner who would be running the game introducing security issues.

Streaming like Nvidia Shield or Steam Link works because they do so locally. The nvidia shield for example requires "50 Megabits per second – Recommended for 1080p 60 FPS quality" (source) which is easy to get on your local WiFi which probably have 70-100 Mbps speeds. Now players would need 50Mbps internet connection and miners would require 50Mbps per game they "mine". You could say 720p 30fps is enough but even old hardware can achieve that without latency and having to pay for it. And don't even dream about 4k...

The whitepaper argues that most people can't play games with the highest settings but most people also doesn't have a stable 50Mbps internet connection. So the video feed would have to be compressed which means a maxed out game will look like it's on low settings. An uncompressed video feed would require very fast (as in high bandwidth) internet. Steam's average download rate is 33.6 Mbps currently in the US including gamers with their own gaming PCs who also tend to afford faster internet.


The whitepaper also says such delusions as mining would be
• 2-3 times more efficient than any altcoin mining add opportunities;
• More stable in the short, medium and long term than cryptocurrency mining;

Which is just nonsense they can't possibly know.


And even if the impossible could be done and more computers could collectively stream the same game in a decentralized manner for 1 person playing, one miner having a lagspike or any short issue would surely create visual glitches and redundancy would make the cost unfeasible. But again, you can't render current games in real time without the whole game running so it's a moot point. Shit, some games can't even use more than 1-2 CPU cores or use SLI ffs...


And of course if this already existing proprietary platform would really exist, you wouldn't need an ICO. This project just smells like just another scam ICO seasoned a random interesting topic.
Not being a gamer, or that technically inclined wanted to thank you for this post. haven't had time but when I read it I decided not to waste any time or money, thanks for sharing. I knew bandwidth would be a constraint but didn't realize the extent of it, not to mention the rest of the problems. They could do it in a centralized manner, and only have a decentralized token but still see project going nowhere until bandwidth (upstream) for average gamers increases and still end of day they could offer same service using Bitcoin instead of a token to compensate "miners" and renters since it's a centralized service. Anyway finally got a chance to check out the forums had this bookmarked wanted to say thanks for sharing your analysis of the whitepaper.

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October 13, 2017, 08:44:22 PM
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Just saw that Playkey made it to Forbes. This article definitely showed Playkey in a very positive light. Great publicity for Playkey.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chongchris/2017/10/11/cloud-gaming-is-launching-in-southeast-asia-using-blockchain-to-empower-gamers/#68958b4843a5

You wrote correctly! Such news has a positive impact before the ICO. But it's also important that the team develops this product for 4 years. Maybe we'll get a good platform!
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October 13, 2017, 09:01:15 PM
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Presents and discounts available now on playkey site, get them all!)
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October 13, 2017, 09:15:45 PM
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Yes gaming industry is a big business, and today cloud is about to replace all on premise solution. Cloud gaming is about to explode and become a new gaming standard. And playkey will link that to another huge market, blockchain, playkey is really a nice project.
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October 13, 2017, 09:31:56 PM
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Presents and discounts available now on playkey site, get them all!)
What presents and discounts are on the site? Tell me about this in more detail.
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October 13, 2017, 09:36:02 PM
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Does the game require graphics card configuration requirements?
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October 13, 2017, 09:50:37 PM
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Just saw that Playkey made it to Forbes. This article definitely showed Playkey in a very positive light. Great publicity for Playkey.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chongchris/2017/10/11/cloud-gaming-is-launching-in-southeast-asia-using-blockchain-to-empower-gamers/#68958b4843a5

You wrote correctly! Such news has a positive impact before the ICO. But it's also important that the team develops this product for 4 years. Maybe we'll get a good platform!
Cloud gaming is technology of the future. Considering that devs were working on this platform for 4 years I'm sure that it's almost finished in no time  Cool
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October 13, 2017, 09:52:20 PM
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Does the game require graphics card configuration requirements?

You get the flow and most likely the platform will be available even on weak graphics card

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October 13, 2017, 10:07:23 PM
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Cool project. I'm a gamer, and my graphics cards have been changed many times, and I have to tell my friends about this project Wink
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October 13, 2017, 10:58:59 PM
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I've just tried this out with my obsolete computer and must admit I'm impressed.

Such a good option for users those computer barely handle multitasking on operating system.
Might even consider to order subscription but I find prices to be a little high.




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October 13, 2017, 11:26:50 PM
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As altcoin profits keep falling, from a cryptominer's point of view PlayKey could become an interesting alternative revenue stream. Do you think PlayKey is compatible with multi-gpu mining rigs?

I don't think that PlayKey wants you to use the hardware power to mine coins. I think a lot of miners running their PlayKey virtual PC 24/7 at full power would really hurt them.

Well, that is a certainly a creative use of the service that I did not anticipate Cheesy

Just to be clear, I meant miners could rent out there hardware to PlayKey, not the other way around.
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October 13, 2017, 11:29:43 PM
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I've just tried this out with my obsolete computer and must admit I'm impressed.

Such a good option for users those computer barely handle multitasking on operating system.
Might even consider to order subscription but I find prices to be a little high.






Cool man.  Is this DOOM? Could your pc run this game without playkey? Was it fairly smooth?

What's your internet speed?

And how much do they charge?

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October 13, 2017, 11:39:09 PM
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The video game market is expanding as it reaches an increasingly broad audience responding to various interests, people spend more and more money and are increasingly active in video games, playkey will undoubtedly be an actor in the direct expansion of the video game.
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October 13, 2017, 11:47:40 PM
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I've just tried this out with my obsolete computer and must admit I'm impressed.

Such a good option for users those computer barely handle multitasking on operating system.
Might even consider to order subscription but I find prices to be a little high.


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Cool man.  Is this DOOM? Could your pc run this game without playkey? Was it fairly smooth?

What's your internet speed?

And how much do they charge?
You can see all of the tariffs here : https://playkey.net/en/steps/payment/
You can register first for free.
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October 13, 2017, 11:48:52 PM
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Wow ! Playkey will give every user in the world access to video games in 1080 full HD this will allow all gamers of video games to take full advantage of the effects videos without having to invest in expensive equipment !  Grin
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October 14, 2017, 01:19:15 AM
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Wow ! Playkey will give every user in the world access to video games in 1080 full HD this will allow all gamers of video games to take full advantage of the effects videos without having to invest in expensive equipment !  Grin

Yes that's the plan and it would be really a great opportunity for everyone who don't want to invest in expensive hardware.

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October 14, 2017, 02:02:28 AM
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How am I just hearing about this? This is a marvel idea. So many titles I have missed out on playing because of my crappy framerate and low end processor. I downloaded so many games in their past installed them only to find out it ran choppy like I was playing with a strobe light on.
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October 14, 2017, 03:04:04 AM
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This prices now for games or for rent a computer already as well?  Huh
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October 14, 2017, 03:55:45 AM
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Any presale or bounty campaign available?
Yes. Currently available. I'm just going to take part. Since the idea itself seems to me promising
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